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Buster, we've been telling you the same thing all along but we figure that if you didn't hear it from Hannity, then you don't believe it. Next time pay a little more attention to what the moderate Independents like me say here and you won't come out looking so much like the fool...

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I predict...

Oops.

Ahead of midterms, voters prefer Democrats even as Republicans appear more motivated to vote

19Jul2017

A Washington Post-ABC News poll offers conflicting forecasts for the 2018 midterm elections, with voters clearly preferring Democrats in control of Congress to check President Trump even as Republicans appear more motivated to show up at the polls. A slight majority of registered voters — 52 percent — say they want Democrats to control the next Congress, while 38 percent favor Republican control to promote the president’s agenda, according to the poll.

[www.washingtonpost.com]

Don't like the data Tabman? Must then be a fake poll!

Got a pocket mouse?

Why is Schumer talking about Hillary for?

Oh, he can talk about her but I can't.

You're an independent?

If you were you would like Trump.
Who did you vote for last November?

As far as who the fool is.
Not me.

Schumer agrees with me it seems.
Did you notice, Trump has renamed the swamp the sewer.
I did this days ago right here in this thread.

The cracks are widening in the Russian hoax.
And the boomerang will be hitting your girl soon.
You watch.

Even the fake news CNN, they know their day of reckoning is near.
This new chief of comm, Trump has is already knocking these losers back on their azzes.

Schumer if he was just a little smarter, would call an end to this whole Russian thingy.

Your girl evidently has been cut loose now.
She can go to the woods and never come out.
She should take Maxine with her when she goes.

A "better deal", golly sounds like aka the art of the deal, the new deal.

DA Hillary, the left should have stood up and sent Hillary packing even before she announced her running for Pres.
Then just maybe some new and refreshing candidates would have run.
Even if they would have lost to Trump, at least the left would have more than they got now.
Notta

Trying to run a convict as your candidate, is the absolute dumbest thing you can do.
This is why the dnc is broke,has no message, and no candidates.
All the crooked behavior talking place on the left.
All this behavior had only one goal.
Protect Hillary and pave the way for her.

One problem.
There wasn't enough 5 gallons pails in the entire USA to carry enough water to get her over the finish line.
Most disgraceful campaign in my life time.

Maybe Hillary should have climbed in a tank.
Maybe she should have divorced Bubba while she was a candidate.
Maybe she should have paid Trump just one personal compliment, not just the one where Hillary complimented Trump's children.
Maybe she should have come to Trump's defense just once.
Trump did come to Bernie's defense.
Bernie came to Trump's defense due to what Cruz did in Iowa.

Hillary tries to make Trump out to be a monster.
The same person, whose wedding she attended.
The same person her husband played golf with.

And you still don't understand why this person LOST.

She was basically lost in space.
Her whole approach was not very human with folks watching.

Hillary, bless her heart.
She tried to win an election electorally in the USA, by a party made up of rich and poor people, not middle class people.
Give the woman a cigar for trying.
She can share it with bubba.

Like you, The Orangeman is obsessed with Clinton, a person who he lost the popular vote by > 3 million. Last night he gave a bizarre speech to the Boy Scouts giving details of his November victory again, this time to a group of kids. Of course he took some shots at Jeff Sessions and today is tweeting some low blows against his most loyal follower:

Attorney General Jeff Sessions has taken a VERY weak position on Hillary Clinton crimes (where are E-mails & DNC server) & Intel leakers!

How many days until Sessions is fired for recusing himself? Can he keep his job through the week under the withering fire from his boss? What lackey will accept that job next? Will the impotent GOP congressional leaders continue to let Trump run roughshod over our constitution?

Mueller is obviously close to something that, if exposed, will hurt Trump. Another recent Trump tweet from this morning:

Problem is that the acting head of the FBI & the person in charge of the Hillary investigation, Andrew McCabe, got $700,000 from H for wife!

Did our stupid president forget that he put McCabe on a finalist list for the FBI director last Fall? Mika is right; Trump is mentally ill.

Another tweet:

Jared Kushner did very well yesterday in proving he did not collude with the Russians. Witch Hunt. Next up, 11 year old Barron Trump!

So now Donnie threw Barron into the mix. He must be fair game for scrutiny. I'm sure Melania is OK with that...

Go-rebels= laughing stock.
No, what a minute make that Go-rebels = edumacated laughing stock.

After Trump fires Beauregard Sessions, he can let go of Mooch. Who needs someone that's not a team player?

Scaramucci: I've advised Trump against firing Mueller

[www.politico.com]

Go- rebels,
Answer this question.

Why did the founding fathers give the Pres the power to pardon?
This here is the why behind why Trump is having a hard time understanding what AG is doing.

IMO
Sessions should unrecuse himself.
Declare the Russian thingy a hoax, shut down the special prosecutor.

What does Sessions have to lose?
Nothing really, if he faced anything legally, Trump should pardon.

Trump sees Sessions as being politically correct in what he is doing, this this behavior in my Trump's mind won't do.
And Trump is correct here IMO.

Catching on here go- rebels?

It would be political suicide if Muller is fired. Let it play out. The Senate and House committees will continue anyways. If they would unearth anything we would need an Independent investigator like Muller anyways. Anyone that thinks pardons would be a blown over event better think again. One pardon leaves behind the stench of a big pile of crap.



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The hosts of Fox and Friends this morning were praising Trump's speech last night in front of the boy scouts and took the time to list all the White House members under Trump who were pure-as-the-driven-snow scouts as kids. Of course the dummies left out Jeffrey Beauregard Sessions, who became an Eagle Scout in 1964.

Coincidence? Don't think so. He's little better than scum in Trump's eyes today.

Well,
Could the dnc servers reveal collusion?
Could former dnc heads, could their testimony reveal collusion?
Could the Clintion foundation books reveal collusion?

This collusion story seems is one sided.

So far it has not been reported Trump and company has not deleted emails,shredded documents.
But we do know who has.
Actually the Trump associates are testifying voluntarily.

The secret server wasn't volunteered up.

Looks like they are chasing the wrong person or associates.

I said it all along, it could have been the loser who was in fact guilty, not the winner.

Maybe Trump should offer a reward for anyone who can provide all or part of the deleted emails.
I mean these emails are government property,,would still be considered evidence.

What about the gent who was murdered?
Need to know more about this too.

Murder is a crime, right?
Swept right under the rug.
Did the FBI even get involved with this murder?

There are lots of loose ends out there.
We should start tying them up and now.

Otherwise the sewer will get only worse.

And just how will our next election even be held?

Donnie offered money for birth records. Turns out he was wrong. Unlike Deplorables I personally welcome any investigation into wrong doing by my party. If anything is found hold them accountable. But do remember that the investigation of Donnie and his team will continue.

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It would be political suicide if Muller is fired.

I disagree. As long as the spineless conservative bastards in Congress continue to back The Orangeman, he'll continue to cycle through Attorney Generals, Deputy Attorney Generals and FBI Directors until he finds a set that will be completely subservient to him. How many times in the last year have we seen Trump do absolutely reprehensible things that normal people thought would end his political career yet get little blow-back from the GOP leaders in Congress?

Trump's ignorant base is solid; they don't understand the threat of the Russians and they don't care as long as the Liar-in-Chief stays in office.

But the risk is certainly there and the only reason why Trump would fire Mueller is that he's getting close to something that can hurt Trump badly.

I'll betcha it involves money...

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I'll bet there is more collusion concerning China vs Russia if we knew the truth.
Comey deserved to be fired.
Just what he did afterwards proves this.

Comey was like a weathervane in reality, not the staunch unbiased person he pretended to be.
He actually outed himself !!
No one with any sense has lost a wink of sleep with Comey's firing.

Obama should have done, no backbone though.
Spineless.



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The Russian BS isn't working, throwing road spikes in front of Trump isn't working, hmmm....Dems are trying this new marketing swing.... “A Better Deal: Better Jobs, Better Wages, Better Future,”......Basically a different way of saying "Make America Great Again".

Duuhhhh.......Get the loser bumbs out,... then maybe they will have something.

The libs are running on flat tires when it comes to Trump having any collusion with the Russians. They're just hoping and wishing that they can dig up something on Trump. Anything! The libs and the MSN media have ruined their credibility. Before it's all over with, all this collusion is going led right back to Hillary and the DNC where it belongs.

tabman

Detroit is a perfect example

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'tabman"
The libs are running on flat tires when it comes to Trump having any collusion with the Russians.

You appear to be a fella who is often surprised by his surroundings. Flynn, Mr. Quite for the last 3 months , has already rolled over to Mueller on Bannon, Kelly Anne, Kushner, Sessions and Manafort. Space Cadet Trump Jr has already rolled over on himself with emails, Since Senate Committee had to get permission from Mueller to subpoena Manafort under oath , apparently Manafort, in a plea deal to save himself from Big time jail sentences, has already rolled over to Mueller thereby allowing Mueller to give Senate a free pass, with implyed restrictions, to quiz Manafort.

Godzilla has left the station.
He has embarked on a safari.
He is infact RINO hunting.

Species limit- none.
Legal hours to take quarry-all

Legal weapons
Twitter
Non fake new sources
Radio addresses
On the road speeches
Facebook
Cabinet members talking

Goal
Clean out the sewer of all RINOs.

This story here.
BIG
[www.breitbart.com]
[dailycaller.com]


You watch, this is part of the real key of the actual wikileaks leaks.



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As already said.....Any wrong doing by the Dems should be punished. The swamp are the law breakers and they need to rooted out. Good. KEEP DIGGING. Now why can't the deplorables say the same? This back and forth on the Liberals did this and the Cons did that is tiring. Just sit back and watch it play out. Let people do their jobs. The truth will come out and the innocent have nothing to fear. On the bright side healthcare is being debated. That is the story. Politics in action. And one last personal thought. These supposed leaks coming out of the White House? Over six months in? Donnie better check his hip pocket because that person is close to him. It wouldn't surprise me if it was Donnie himself in some political strategy.

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On the bright side healthcare is being debated.

My local conservative Talk Radio station was hyping yesterday's Senate vote as some great victory for the Pubs. Are the RWNJs really that stupid to think this was substantial? The clean repeal vote comes today.

Wonder how it will look, if it we the dnc's IT dude who was the leaker? To wikileaks.
And if it is proven the dnc actually knew but didn't report or admit.
And washerman- Shultz is up to her hip here with all this knowledge.

Maybe this is why the FBI never did physically touch the dnc's servers.

You know what I think.

We have bunches that should be in cuffs right now.

Hillary
Lynch
Comey
Washerman- Shultz
Susan Rice
Podesta


Let's watch.

The whole lefty's enterprise was so corrupt.
Wonder how much knowledge Obama and Bubba have here with this.

Left is in big trouble.
Schumer has better put on his life preserver.
The left's big ship is sinking and sinking fast.

There is always another ship. The rights ship is running full speed but it isn't getting anywhere. Plenty of time for the left to go ship shopping.

goodmore Wrote:
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> There is always another ship. The rights ship is
> running full speed but it isn't getting anywhere.
> Plenty of time for the left to go ship shopping.


Ship shopping, yep.
They'll need one to try and sell their "better deal".

What they lack is a captain for their ship.
Even they themselves admit.
And whose to blame for their being captain less?
Themselves.

I have found a ship for the left.
Cheap too, since it seems they are broke.

[www.offshoreonly.com]



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The crap is about to hit the fan! The accusers have been the guilty ones all along. All those smashed phones, the DNC not wanting the FBI to have access to their computers and all those deleted emails on Hillary's secret server makes it pretty clear that they were trying to hide something. Trump's alleged collusion with the Russians is nothing but a smoke screen to divert attention away from the real criminals. The leftwing nuts attacking Trump and his family was a HUGE mistake.

tabman

Senate rejects repeal-only Obamacare repeal... Y'all getting tired of all the winning?

Here is a link to a Senator's oath they take.
[www.senate.gov]

Now, we have been hearing and talking about this Russian collusion garbage for the longest.
Pure garbage.

But let's look at where the real collusion needs to be studied.
How about this.
Seems some are so worried (even the MSM) about Trump's communications as well as his associates.
How about let's see the communications between Senators and CEOs, and wall streeters, insurance companies etc.
Let's see those communications and be able to draw our own conclusions, as to who these folks, whose are they really looking out for.

We will likely never have a health care bill.
Why?
Because it is impossible to have a fair system with out cutting into the insurance companies profits.
They jumped on the Obama care train, only to find out they even got fooled, hence many bailed.

Our entire political system is fixing to come unraveled.
Why
Because these politicians haven't figured out yet, the shell game is over.
They are exposed big time.
And guess whom the cheerleader is for this exposure?
Trump

How about this.
The DAs in the house and senate, should have gave the ACH plan (Obama care) back to the congressional budget office and let them reevaluate.
Wonder what they would say now, knowing what we know now?

Personally, I think the house and senate are looking at the wrong program.
They should be both trying to study Medicare and make appropriate changes to insure solvency.
Then, after this is down, think about incrementally letting folks outside the Medicare age frame into Medicare program.
With time, everyone could be under Medicare.

So Medicare for all.

Yes, remember folks, some likely would still be buying civil insurance company supplemental policies, just like my mother in law does now.

We, our government is not very good at taking big steps.
So baby steps will have to do.

We as a country, we don't make folks work, or order them to work.
We used to have a system that IMO gave better incentive to work.
But now, this has eroded.
Bums who don't work expect to be covered.
And it seems even a lot of politicians now agree.

Wonder what would happen if everyone in USA cancelled their health care polciies tomorrow.
Then what?

Major laws passed by the leadership in Congress are never perfect. They need adjusted over time. The Medicare laws...Social Security....The Civil Rights Act....all required adjustments by Congress to make them better as the weak parts startied oozing through the cracks. The affordable healthcare act was no different. It needed adjusted to keep from failing. But since the Republicans controlled congress it could never be brought up for adjustment or they just would have killed it. In fact they tried 60 times on their own.Imagine playing chess where your opponent moves for you. That's what the insurance industry did for Obamacare. The CBO score in the beginning never saw such a massive scale o\of dereliction of duty coming. Dereliction of duty is correct. The sky rocketing premiums that our nations poor and tax payers subsidize now are are nothing more than a direct result of political spite. The ironic part is that Republican voters in Urban areas feel it the most. That's where Obamacare is dissolving into nothing.

Insurance isn't hard to figure out. The young and healthy pay for the sick and old. And so it continues down through the years until the young and healthy become the sick and old. This country needs to make one decision and one alone. Will we allow people to get sick and die because they can't pay or will we have a single payer system where profits are controlled by law?



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People who want the sewer rats in Washington deciding what healthcare they get or not get need to have their heads examined especially in light that those rats will have their own separate healthcare plan.

Giving the Federal Government the power to force you to purchase something that you don't want is heading down the wrong road when it comes to individual rights and freedom.

When are people going to wakeup and realize that insurance is NOT healthcare and that socialism is a dead end road. Being socialism free is what made America great and rich to begin with.

tabman

The strangest thing is, how long did we exist as a country without Obama Care?
And just how were folks coping during this time without?

Could it be the left just used this health care thingy purely for politics and nothing else?
Just like they did with preaching all the bs about leaving the border open and giving these illegals all the stuff even citizens get.

We must change the entire culture, and get these grow ups (bums) out of their parents basements.

Parents used to kick their kids out of the nest.
What happened?