The Relic and the Racer 2 have adjustable tone break settings. I was wondering what everybody's logic is concerning where they set the tone break and why?

I ask because it seems to vary widely per user. Personally, when swinging the Relic, in DI3 I set the high tone break at 80 because copper pennies come in slightly higher than that and other coins/silver (but nickels) even higher. I'm not coin shooting. I'm hunting relics in old ranches, stage stops,etc. My thinking was that I dig all signals over iron anyway and want only the higher #s which are more indicative of a coin or silver to give me a high alert. Most bullets/lead come in around 66 and cartridge cases vary depending on their size but not usually over 80.

What's your reasoning?

Thanks!

Dean

I set the tone break at 65 to 68 cause that's where indian heads come in about 70 so gives then a high tone also

I've never dug an IHP. Why would they come in so much lower than a wheatie?

Thanks!

Dean

Ihp on all my machines only come in slightly higher than a zinc penny. On the Relic if I set the tone break at about 68 it makes yhem all a high tone in DI3.

First tone break is set just below nickel and second is set just below Indian. But the key is to listen for any tone that sounds round. I'm a coin hunter, but I will dig my share of pull tabs in search of gold rings. I'll chase for a ring maybe 10 times during a hunt then I go just for coins. Next time out I'll chase 10 more times. I have to admit that I have dug some of my most interesting finds chasing ring signals. You just don't know what is going to pop out of that hole.

I have mine set to 10 and 65 (3 tone mode), but I've seen some suggestions on the iron range to lower it. Personally I haven't really found anything interesting in the lower register, anything in the 30-40 range thus far has been shell casings, 60+ is where the good targets seem to be. Now if I were after gold or lead that would be a different story, but for non-ferrous relics, buttons, coins, tokens, etc., a TID of 60+ is when I start to get excited, give me a 70+ and I get really excited - lol

Cal, on my Relic I dig all with a reading of 45 or higher which is where shield and V nickels fall into, what do they fall in on the R2?

I've been digging everything while I get comfortable with the R2, but haven't got a nickel in the wild yet. I believe they come in around 29-32 though IIRC.

Welgund Wrote:
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> Cal, on my Relic I dig all with a reading of 45 or
> higher which is where shield and V nickels fall
> into, what do they fall in on the R2?

In 3 tone I set tone break at 40. Nickels come in at 45.

Rick

I like about 65 3rd tone break on the R2...and 700Hz for high tone and 400hz or so for mid tone ..this gives a nice Turkey gobble on DEEEEP large Iron..I still dig it but I know its not a non ferrous target before removal about 90% of the time..I break at nail in 2 tone..7000 hz high and 100 hz low..

On the Relic I like to break at nail on two tone and to break at 95 on third tone when in 3 tone...helps me on Iron wrap falsing...I just dig all mid tones..


also if you want to hunt in 2 tone but get the three tone process just slid your third tone down to the second tone break point..

works well on the Relic...

Keith

“I don't care that they stole my idea . . I care that they don't have any of their own”
-Nikola Tesla

I'm usually using three tone and set my breaks at 29 and 82 so nickels and zincs come in at the mid tones and copper pennies and above are the high tone. When hunting ghost towns I set them at 11 and 65 so non-ferrous hit mid and coins hit high.

Tone-Break is a COMPLETELY INDIVIDUALIZED preference.

I (heavily) use it................ and ..................... is set differently at each individual site. . . . . . . due to site-conditions and to specifically-targeted items.

NASA-Tom Wrote:
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> Tone-Break is a COMPLETELY INDIVIDUALIZED
> preference.
>
> I (heavily) use it................ and
> ..................... is set differently at each
> individual site. . . . . . . due to
> site-conditions and to specifically-targeted
> items.


Just from reading the replies it would seem that you are right on the money. My original thought was that the site\targets would be the biggest factor in the settings. Thanks!
Thanks Keith for the suggestions.

Dean

I agree that it is sight specific and target specific.

From my own personal experience, if you are hunting in a lot of iron trash and expecting to get the same good IDs on a coin or relic as you would with the same coin/relic isolated away from anything and or above ground, then you are probably leaving a lot of good targets behind. I think that is the whole benefit of having the ability to set your own tone break or tone bins. If you recognize what is going on, you can adapt to the conditions and maybe put a few more goodies in the pouch.

Take for example the relic site I have been hunting with the Civil War Burnside bullets and other relics. In an air test or in shallow ground, the Fors Relic will read the bullets in the upper 50s and low 60s. In the ground past a certain depth or when in some of the heavier iron on the site, they will read around the 11 mark for the most part, with scattered and skewed ID. IF I were setting the tone break based on assuming the bullets should still read in the 50s or 60s...then out of about 20+ I have dug out of there so far, I would have only dug maybe 2 or 3 of them that gave numbers and tones in the 50s or 60s. Which means I would have left 17 or so of them in the ground. Whether your intended targets are relics or coins...rest assured the same thing is happening, especially in thick iron and trash.

I favor the tone bin adjustments & method more so than the raw tone break number way. That's just me. Both accomplish the same thing; just one of them is a little easier to set up.