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G2+ Ultimate master unmasking
Posted by Denari
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Re: G2+ Ultimate master unmasking December 03, 2016 12:19AM |
Sweet detector----great coil!
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Re: G2+ Ultimate master unmasking December 05, 2016 04:54PM |
Been tellin you guys they're GOOD!----Sleepers?-----Got two G2+'s & two 13" Ultimates for them (wife & I)----A great combo!-------------Del
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Re: G2+ Ultimate master unmasking December 06, 2016 01:36AM |
Tom_in_CA Wrote:
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> Some comments on that video:
>
> a) There's multiple machines on today's market
> that can mimic that ability.
>
> b) why oh why oh why didn't he ever progress to
> putting a coin UNDER any of those nails ? Notice
> that every last one of his tests had the coin
> places in various trajectories AROUND and NEXT to
> the nails. But none with the coin under a nail.
Why???-----Because it probably would have flunked the test under the nail!
-------Seriously---that was a demonstration of Montes nail board test (or very similar) and that big coil at least passed it on the same plane---which is QUITE an accomplishment for that large of a coil.-----Keith did that same test with the Tejon & 9X8 (concentric) coil and said that it was the only detector with that large of a coil that could pass that test 100% that he knew of.------Well----here ya go----13" coil on a G2+.------I did notice this guy had the disc set on 1-----I think Keith had the disc set on the "I" on foil---(or real close to that).----------Curious----which of these "multiple machines on todays market market that can mimic that ability" that you mention?---with that large of coil---with that large of coil! ------------Del
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> Some comments on that video:
>
> a) There's multiple machines on today's market
> that can mimic that ability.
>
> b) why oh why oh why didn't he ever progress to
> putting a coin UNDER any of those nails ? Notice
> that every last one of his tests had the coin
> places in various trajectories AROUND and NEXT to
> the nails. But none with the coin under a nail.
Why???-----Because it probably would have flunked the test under the nail!
-------Seriously---that was a demonstration of Montes nail board test (or very similar) and that big coil at least passed it on the same plane---which is QUITE an accomplishment for that large of a coil.-----Keith did that same test with the Tejon & 9X8 (concentric) coil and said that it was the only detector with that large of a coil that could pass that test 100% that he knew of.------Well----here ya go----13" coil on a G2+.------I did notice this guy had the disc set on 1-----I think Keith had the disc set on the "I" on foil---(or real close to that).----------Curious----which of these "multiple machines on todays market market that can mimic that ability" that you mention?---with that large of coil---with that large of coil! ------------Del
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Re: G2+ Ultimate master unmasking December 06, 2016 04:15PM |
D&P-OR Wrote:
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> Why???-----Because it probably would have flunked
> the test under the nail!-------
No doubt. But there are machines that will pass that test. A 77b, and a few of the 2-filter tesoros (like a silver sabre, etc...)
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>
> Why???-----Because it probably would have flunked
> the test under the nail!
-------
No doubt. But there are machines that will pass that test. A 77b, and a few of the 2-filter tesoros (like a silver sabre, etc...)
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Re: G2+ Ultimate master unmasking December 11, 2016 04:55PM |
Denari,
thank you very much for following through ! Although we can not understand the narration language .... a picture is worth 1000 words !
I liked how you started with showing the viewers the sounds of the nails alone (so that later on, no one mistakes a simple "sound" as being iron vs. something conductive in the midst). And at ~ 3:15, I can still hear the nickel (albeit choppy) as distinct from how the nail standing alone sounded. Thus your setup appears to have a good ability at "averaging".
And I like how you took various factors into consideration. For example: At about the ~6 mark, it appears you were factoring in "ground" and bottle cap rejection, so that there was no mistake that the settings and prior tests were not "real world". After adjusting for those factors, you repeat the nail vs nickel tests. Did I understand that part correctly ? If so, bravo !
Then you demonstrate the understanding of horizontal vs vertical test. Glad you tried it at 90 degrees variation. That mimics various placements of masking . And demonstrates the variations on what the machine sees in the ground . Thank you ! And in each case: Again the signal from the nickel (albeit choppy) can be heard.
I can only surmise that a small coil would be even better yet.
If I ever get to Europe, or if you ever get to the USA, I'm buying you a beer
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/11/2016 04:57PM by Tom_in_CA.
thank you very much for following through ! Although we can not understand the narration language .... a picture is worth 1000 words !
I liked how you started with showing the viewers the sounds of the nails alone (so that later on, no one mistakes a simple "sound" as being iron vs. something conductive in the midst). And at ~ 3:15, I can still hear the nickel (albeit choppy) as distinct from how the nail standing alone sounded. Thus your setup appears to have a good ability at "averaging".
And I like how you took various factors into consideration. For example: At about the ~6 mark, it appears you were factoring in "ground" and bottle cap rejection, so that there was no mistake that the settings and prior tests were not "real world". After adjusting for those factors, you repeat the nail vs nickel tests. Did I understand that part correctly ? If so, bravo !
Then you demonstrate the understanding of horizontal vs vertical test. Glad you tried it at 90 degrees variation. That mimics various placements of masking . And demonstrates the variations on what the machine sees in the ground . Thank you ! And in each case: Again the signal from the nickel (albeit choppy) can be heard.
I can only surmise that a small coil would be even better yet.
If I ever get to Europe, or if you ever get to the USA, I'm buying you a beer
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/11/2016 04:57PM by Tom_in_CA.
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Re: G2+ Ultimate master unmasking December 11, 2016 06:20PM |
Tom_in_CA Wrote:
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> Denari,
>
> thank you very much for following through !
> Although we can not understand the narration
> language .... a picture is worth 1000 words !
>
> I liked how you started with showing the viewers
> the sounds of the nails alone (so that later on,
> no one mistakes a simple "sound" as being iron vs.
> something conductive in the midst). And at ~
> 3:15, I can still hear the nickel (albeit choppy)
> as distinct from how the nail standing alone
> sounded. Thus your setup appears to have a good
> ability at "averaging".
>
> And I like how you took various factors into
> consideration. For example: At about the ~6
> mark, it appears you were factoring in "ground"
> and bottle cap rejection, so that there was no
> mistake that the settings and prior tests were not
> "real world". After adjusting for those factors,
> you repeat the nail vs nickel tests. Did I
> understand that part correctly ? If so, bravo !
>
> Then you demonstrate the understanding of
> horizontal vs vertical test. Glad you tried it
> at 90 degrees variation. That mimics various
> placements of masking . And demonstrates the
> variations on what the machine sees in the ground
> . Thank you ! And in each case: Again the
> signal from the nickel (albeit choppy) can be
> heard.
>
> I can only surmise that a small coil would be even
> better yet.
>
> If I ever get to Europe, or if you ever get to the
> USA, I'm buying you a beer
Ohkee doekee Tom-------Now you can go buy ursef a G2+ & !3" Ultimate coil and join the ranks of us other fortunate fellas!!!!
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> Denari,
>
> thank you very much for following through !
> Although we can not understand the narration
> language .... a picture is worth 1000 words !
>
> I liked how you started with showing the viewers
> the sounds of the nails alone (so that later on,
> no one mistakes a simple "sound" as being iron vs.
> something conductive in the midst). And at ~
> 3:15, I can still hear the nickel (albeit choppy)
> as distinct from how the nail standing alone
> sounded. Thus your setup appears to have a good
> ability at "averaging".
>
> And I like how you took various factors into
> consideration. For example: At about the ~6
> mark, it appears you were factoring in "ground"
> and bottle cap rejection, so that there was no
> mistake that the settings and prior tests were not
> "real world". After adjusting for those factors,
> you repeat the nail vs nickel tests. Did I
> understand that part correctly ? If so, bravo !
>
> Then you demonstrate the understanding of
> horizontal vs vertical test. Glad you tried it
> at 90 degrees variation. That mimics various
> placements of masking . And demonstrates the
> variations on what the machine sees in the ground
> . Thank you ! And in each case: Again the
> signal from the nickel (albeit choppy) can be
> heard.
>
> I can only surmise that a small coil would be even
> better yet.
>
> If I ever get to Europe, or if you ever get to the
> USA, I'm buying you a beer
Ohkee doekee Tom-------Now you can go buy ursef a G2+ & !3" Ultimate coil and join the ranks of us other fortunate fellas!!!!
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Re: G2+ Ultimate master unmasking January 17, 2017 08:15AM |
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Re: G2+ Ultimate master unmasking January 17, 2017 11:09AM |
Always have liked the F19/G2+ with 13" ultimates on them Denari
one of my all time favorite combos = I've dug some deep coins, tokens, buttons, etc with that setup
one of my all time favorite combos = I've dug some deep coins, tokens, buttons, etc with that setup