Rutus alter71 and XP DEUS out in the field

Here is a video of the Rutus Alter 71 I decided to go over a patch of dirt with the XP Deus and pick out all the clean sounding targets. Then I ran the Alter 71 over the same patch to see if any targets would be found that the deus had missed. I had the 11 inch coil on the Deus and the smaller 9 inch concentric on the alter 71 so in all fairness not a equal test. XP does not make a concentric for the deus or else I would of tested in such a way. My findings are as such. [www.youtube.com]

Very lonely forum haha><

Going to watch it tonight, trying to suck in all the info on the Alter.
I see Des Dunne has a few more up as well.

I will haft to check them out thx!

Don't get lonely Diggs, thanks for the video. I like the tone of the Rutus.....mild on the ears and nerves. The pinpoint sounds like an etrac.

Yes it does sound like the etrac now that you mention it

"It sounds just right to my ears... not that tinny high pitch racket of the latest and greatest to have entered the market and made such an 'impact' on
many but not everybody's cuppa T'

Hey Diggs, if you want to dig deep, put that 11" dd coil on the 71. In freshwater beach sand, I've been digging to china.

"Thanks for the videos Diggs!"
Appreciated - time consuming.

When I saw you posted D v A , I hoped you had tested both over targets before digging.
I'm planning another D v A and it'll be a new twist for me?"

Yes I'm gonna put the DD on her next trip out, cheers

Des D Wrote:
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> "Thanks for the videos Diggs!"
> Appreciated - time consuming.
>
> When I saw you posted D v A , I hoped you had test
> ed both over targets before digging.
> I'm planning another D v A and it'll be a new twis
> t for me?"


Ya I would of loved to of did it this time but I was on a very steep incline ground was half frozen. Im gonna do some proper head to heads when the fields thaw out.

Do you guys think the Rutus, AKA, Nexus detectors are primarily made for open field hunting? I haven't seen much in the way of demos with these machines in an urban environment with EMI and trash to contend with while chasing coins. It's typically rural open fields with targets far apart with some large iron mixed in. A common theme by the manufacturers is a demonstration how incredibly deep they are but then you read some comments where owners say they are fairly typical. Maybe that's another reason sales in the US haven't taken off.

TabWhisperer Wrote:
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> Do you guys think the Rutus, AKA, Nexus detectors
> are primarily made for open field hunting? I have
> n't seen much in the way of demos with these machi
> nes in an urban environment with EMI and trash to
> contend with while chasing coins. It's typically
> rural open fields with targets far apart with some
> large iron mixed in. A common theme by the manufa
> cturers is a demonstration how incredibly deep the
> y are but then you read some comments where owners
> say they are fairly typical. Maybe that's another
> reason sales in the US haven't taken off.


I use my Rutus Alter especially for the river beaches here that are littered with trash. This because I can recognise and ingore a lot of this trash now. This is IMO where the Rutus excells. Dual audio, good VDI ánd signograph. So much more fun this way. I also think the Rutus is the fastest machine to date.

The Nexus i wouldn't use in heavy trash, ideal in an open field and very deep on larger coins and relics.

TabWhisperer Wrote:
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> Do you guys think the Rutus, AKA, Nexus detectors
> are primarily made for open field hunting? I have
> n't seen much in the way of demos with these machi
> nes in an urban environment with EMI and trash to
> contend with while chasing coins. It's typically
> rural open fields with targets far apart with some
> large iron mixed in. A common theme by the manufa
> cturers is a demonstration how incredibly deep the
> y are but then you read some comments where owners
> say they are fairly typical. Maybe that's another
> reason sales in the US haven't taken off.

15 minutes on the beach with garbage:



Nail Board Test

ps: The choice of the coil for the detector is very important ...



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The Rutus can be a deep seeking machine as well, just lower the reactionspeed, lower the kHz and adjust your sweepspeed. As simple as that.

TabWhisperer Wrote:

Maybe that's another
> reason sales in the US haven't taken off.

Takes 4-6 weeks for aka products to arrive in north america after ordering is the biggest reason these machines never took off in our neck of the woods. They are more then capable of detecting in many areas and have key features to surpress emi. It is a professional grade detector and people on this side of the pond rather have a turn on and go type detector. 70% of the people who purchase signum series detectors have a hard time just ground balancing it. Not aka's fault more so the fault of people not taking the time to learn.

Thanks for the video. RA71 seems an interesting machine. Perhaps you can explain/verbalize what the (hodo) graph shows/tells you about the targets, particularly if you find it helpful regarding bits of aluminum if and when you happen to run into them.

Wayne

Pleasant Garden, NC
AT Max, Nokta Impact, MX Sport, Nokta FORS Relic, GPX 4800, Infinium, Racer, Deus, F75SE, Nautilus DMC II (order of acquisition, last to first)

Does an archeologist argue with a plow? A bureaucrat with a bulldozer?

> (hodo) graph shows/tells you about the targets, pa
> rticularly if you find it helpful regarding bits o
> f aluminum if and when you happen to run into them
> .
>
> Wayne


I will run targets over the unit today and take pics of the hodograph. And post here

The ONLY reason Rutus Alter hasn't taken off in the US is down to the company produces in small quantities.
Stocks can be low in European countries too.
I don't know if they have representation there yet and that might be another reason?

Des D Wrote:
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> The ONLY reason Rutus Alter hasn't taken off in th
> e US is down to the company produces in small quan
> tities.
> Stocks can be low in European countries too.
> I don't know if they have representation there yet
> and that might be another reason?


I tryed to supply them in Canada and they informed me only the EU can carry there products at this time. Check back in 2018. alot of red tape for internation sales I guess. I really bugged them to allow me to be a dealer but it was a firm no. I hope things change down the road



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you can get them thru detecknics in the uk or ebay.

Would like to see or hear anything of recent on this topic

For those interested.
This thread has actual Rutus alter 71 data.
See my posts in this thread.

Hodograph, interesting cookie. More info supplied that meets the eye some times.
My comments start on page 2 post 22 of this link.
[metaldetectingforum.com]



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Those Polish and Bulgarian detectors are killing it for relic hunting.