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Difference @ the Silver Sabre II vs the Silver Sabre Umax ?
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Re: Difference @ the Silver Sabre II vs the Silver Sabre Umax ? March 27, 2017 10:52AM |
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NASA Tom
I just want you to be able to recover your laborious 'blood-labor'...... so it does not go down in vain.
Someone HAD to have copied and/or printed your data. And...... it's in cyber-space somewhere.
I know you're not making fun of me Tom.
But as usual, I got carried away. I wanted to post some great content for the members and all the guest that stopped in.
I tell you people stopped in from all over the world. And always searching for information.
That laborious 'blood-labor' part,... hell.
Countless times I'd look up and it's way past midnight.
"My neck Tom". For the last year or so my neck is really bothering me.
From the time I get up, to the time I go to sleep, I am miserable.
It's all these years of doing close work, plus some real damage I did to my self in my thrill seeking years.
I wonder about you Tom.
You, me, an engraver, a watch maker,.......
Look what happened to Keith Wills.
He had to have neck surgery because his hands went numb then stopped working.
I need to do my best to retrain myself.
Instead of standing over a desk and looking down at a blueprint, sit down and hold it up like reading a newspaper.
Instead of looking down reading a book at my desk, sit in a recliner or lay down so I'm looking up at the book.
Stuff like that.
Brother, I am miserable.
"I'll tell you another thing",....... these kids, and,.... well, a whole lot of people.......
I see it every day. People standing, walking, sitting, and yes even driving,..........
Looking down at their smart phone.
How much of each day are they looking down at their phone?
You know it and I know it.
Nothing good will come from this.
And the angle, steep, not like holding up a menu at a restaurant.
The monitor on my desk is sitting on a stack of four of those stepping stones like they have at the nursery.
1 1/2" each, 6" total. It helps because I look almost straight across at it instead of looking down at it.
I starting doing that about 6 years ago because my neck was giving me problems.
Not a bad idea for anyone who wants to give their neck a break.
(somehow that didn't sound quite right,....LOL)
Hey Tom!
I just remembered!
I have some, a few,....... I started a small forum of my own about 3 years ago.
No members, I was setting it up as a reference site.
Just information.
In the midst of moving the electricity was shut off and back on again.
My computer didn't like that. It crashed and wouldn't complete booting up.
The provider of that forum had a rule, there has to be activity, 2/3 weeks without activity.......
They shut down your forum and send you the files!
I know I had a real nice Pinpointer info page. I'll have to update that information.
It was current up to the Minelab pinpointer if memory serves.
I made a big Fisher section, pictures, manuals.
I Built a big White's section, brother do they have a ton of manuals.
That is all I can remember.
Who is the computer guy here?
I wonder if it's all there in those files.
The pictures, the pdf manuals?
Or only the text?
I got excited for nothing. I just opened the zip file.
Of all that information, all they sent was a single text document, all that they sent is this....
<b>5900/DI Pro SL</b>
<nabble_a href="5900_Di_Pro.pdf">5900_Di_Pro.pdf</nabble_a>
Just a tiny piece from one section.
I will have to rebuild everything from scratch.
Tom, can you generate "sub forums" or sections in this forum software you're using?
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Re: Difference @ the Silver Sabre II vs the Silver Sabre Umax ? March 28, 2017 02:23AM |
Tom in CA,
BOTH of the Silver Sabre models you asked about are very reliable and useful performers, but as others who use them have mentioned, there are some differences. Keep in mind that the primary things they have in common are:
1.. They are 'turn-on-and-go' models meaning they rely on an internally preset Ground Balance.
2.. They feature Tesoro's ED-120 Discriminate range circuitry.
3.. They share the same Tesoro quick-response/fast-recovery performance that has made Tesoro recognized in the industry since the Inca's release in '83.
4.. They operate in the 10 kHz to 12 kHz frequency range that fits with the optimum or ideal general purpose frequency determined by George Payne. (He stated a 12.5 kHz frequency to be about ideal and used that frequency when he designed the Discovery Treasure Baron line.. From using a wide-range of detectors from different manufacturers, I have settled on a versatile or optimal 'general purpose' frequency being ±2½ kHz of that. Thus, a well designed detector operating in the 10 kHz to 15 kHz range.)
5.. They share all of the same series of Tesoro search coils, both Concentric (my favorites) and Double-D types.
These two Silver Sabre models do have some design differences, however, such as:
The Silver Sabre II has a Threshold-based All Metal search mode with a slow auto-tune and a toggle-select manual retune. This provides users the ability to search in a silent-search, motion-based Discriminate mode OR a Threshold-based All Metal mode. The All Metal mode can also be used to isolate or pinpoint a target.
The Silver Sabre µMAX, not a 'u' the µ symbol stands for 'micro' so µMAX is pronounced microMAX. This model is a silent-search, motion Based Discriminator and does NOT have a selectable All Metal mode. It does have a Pinpoint function which is a momentary Threshold-based All Metal Pinpoint feature to help size-and-shape as well as pinpoint a target.
General History (but not as complete as what Sandman once offered and no, I never copied it
) leading to these two models and what I consider to be some of my all-time favorite Tesoro models. As some have mentioned, while they are so very similar in many ways, they both have their different strengths. They are very good detectors for many 'average' Hobbyists for many types of hunting, but more Avid Detectorists might take advantages of their more controllable (manual GB'ed) Bandido counter-parts.
The ED-120 Discrimination circuitry was something Tesoro brought out in March of 1990 when they introduced the original Bandido. This model features a Threshold-Based All Metal mode with an external, 10-turn Ground Balance control. It became very popular and also became my most used detector model for Coin & Jewelry Hunting, but especially for Relic Hunting all the old iron-infested sites I enjoy. I preferred the smaller-size 7" Concentric coil back then to the standard white-colored 8" Concentric 'donut' coil, and the combination of the excellent circuitry and 7" coil rewarded me well at many homesteads, ghost towns, stage stops and railroad depot and siding sites, and 1800's era encampments in Arizona, California, Colorado, Idaho, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah, Washington, Wyoming and a few other places.
The Bandido was very popular, and in September of '91 Tesoro used the same under-slung control housing and essentially the same circuitry when they introduced the 'turn-on-and-go' Silver Sabre II with the preset GB. Same basic performance as the original Bandido, just 'simplified' w/o the manual GB option. Back then I kept one of each of these models, the Bandido & Silver Sabre II, in my detector travel arsenal and used them both with great success.
The 'original' Bandido continued in production until 6/'96, but in 1/'96 Tesoro offered a new 'upgrade' of that original in the Bandido II, and that model continued in production to 9/'97. Both in the same housing and same controls and virtually identical in-the-field performance with one exception. The 'original' Bandido has a slow auto-tune speed in the All Metal mode. I found it, and still do, very functional for most urban Coin Hunting as well as remote-site Relic Hunting needs.
The Bandito II has one added toggle switch on the control panel for Normal/Manual Retune or Auto which is a very fast Auto-Tune. Jack Gifford told me that the main purpose for that addition to make the Bandido II was to appeal to Gold Nugget Hunters who wanted to hunt in All Metal, but in uneven or changing grounds the faster Auto-tune speed was preferred to the slower auto-tune circuitry of the original Bandido. Personally, I liked both the Bandido & Bandido II back then, and still admire what they offer today. (Note, below, that I do have an 'original' Bandido in my Regular-Use Detector Team that I keep a thin-profile 6" Concentric coil mounted to.)
In October of 1997 we saw a pronounced change in BOTH the Bandido series and Silver Sabre series with the introduction of two new models, the Bandido II µMAX and Silver Sabre µMAX. Both were in the smaller control housing, used the ED-120 acceptance range Disc. circuitry, used the same coils as the former models and provided very similar performance. The differences between them was that while they both had a variable Threshold control on the front panel, the Bandido II microMAX also had a 3¾-turn manual GB and the Silver Sabre microMAX is the internally preset GB design.
The Bandido II µMAX, the last of the four model Bandido series, has the two toggles like the former Bandido II to select the All Metal or Discriminate mode, and to also select Normal/Manual retune or Auto-tune. The Silver Sabre µMAX, the last of the four Silver Sabre series, lacks an All Metal search mode but has the momentary All Metal Pinpoint button.
Both of those new microMAX models featured the new or improved Low-Noise/High-Gain circuitry. The purpose or benefit of that was to reduce or filter some of the noisy operation while boosting the gain and provide a little more saturated audio and louder response from mid-depth and slightly deeper targets than the former models, the Bandido, Bandido II and Silver Sabre II they replaced in the product line.
They still work very well in all types of Coin Hunting, Jewelry Hunting and Relic Hunting >>>> HOWEVER <<<< from the October day in '97 right up to this past few days of checking out some search coils I have, I STILL GIVE A SLIGHT EDGE to my 'original' Bandido over my Bandido II µMAX in a couple of really tough side-by-side target masking tests.
The same very slight edge goes to the earlier Silver Sabre II over the newer and hotter or 'sparkier' Silver Sabre µMAX. But that 'edge' is when we are talking a really tough masking test when the problem masking trash is a ferrous based piece of junk. Not always easily observed, but from the day a friend and fellow Tesoro Dealer & I got the Bandido II µMAX and did a quick test with a US 5¢ nickel coin compared with his original Bandido and Golden Sabre II (a turn-on-and-go of the Pantera circuitry) and my Bandido II and Pantera, all using a Tesoro 8" Concentric coil, we could see the strengths of the new Bandido II µMAX as well as a weakness in that particular iron nails & nickel test.
Anyway, YES, I feel the earlier versions had just a bit of an edge in unmasking desirable targets in a rusty iron nail mix, and maybe deal with a few other ferrous littered sites just a little bit better. That said, if the trash level is low-to-moderate, the more favorable performing µMAX versions might be able to provide a little louder audio response on the mid-depth and deeper targets compared with the earlier Bandido II and Silver Sabre II, or be a little deeper-seeking than the earlier versions.
For Relic Hunting, which I am guessing you might want to use them for, and just a general use/have handy detector model, the only models in the Silver Sabre series I would recommend are the Silver Sabre II and Silver Sabre µMAX.
For more versatility by having an external manual GB controls, I would recommend the original Bandido, the Bandido II and the Bandido II µMAX. One benefit they have is you are able to 'calibrate' (meaning adjust for a proper and functional GB setting) with different search coils. This can result in adjusting for any ground mineral environment, especially enhancing the Discriminate mode for peak performance.
In the original frequency group of models that all share the same search coils, other than the Silver Sabre and Bandido series models I refer to in this thread, the only other coil-sharing models I would consider would be the 2-Tone Golden Sabre II (turn-on-and-go) or originator of that circuitry, the Pantera (manual GB ) which have almost the same ED-120 Disc range, but use the larger-size housing (like the current Lobo SuperTRAQ) and 8-AA alkaline batteries instead of the 1 or 2 9-V batteries of the Silver Sabre and Bandido series models.
Questions, if I have confused you or maybe left something out, just drop me an e-mail.
Hey, if you can make it to our 5th Welcome-to-Hunt Outing based out of Wells, Nevada this coming May, Thursday the 18th thru Sunday May 21st, I might still have an extra Tesoro on-hand as a loaner for you to check out. I have a very nice, and 'hot' original Bandido and also a 'hot' Bandido II µMAX I'm going to sell. If I haven't, I'll bring them along for folks to try, and on the last 3 WTHO's I have ended up selling ALL of the extra Silver Sabre II, Bandido, Bandido II and Bandido II µMAX models I can get on-hand for the outings. These are 'extra' models as my personal inventory is Not For sale.
Monte
"Your EYES ... the only 100% accurate form of Discrimination!"
Stinkwater Wells Trading Post
Metal Detector Evaluations and Product Reviews monte@ahrps.org ... or ... monte@stinkwaterwells.com 503-481-8147 Fisher-1, Makro-1, Minelab-1, Nokta-1, Tesoro-2, White's-1 Garrett MS-3 -- Killer B's 'Hornet' & 'Wasp' Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand. Models are chosen based on search site conditions. *** All working well today to make memories for tomorrow. ***
BOTH of the Silver Sabre models you asked about are very reliable and useful performers, but as others who use them have mentioned, there are some differences. Keep in mind that the primary things they have in common are:
1.. They are 'turn-on-and-go' models meaning they rely on an internally preset Ground Balance.
2.. They feature Tesoro's ED-120 Discriminate range circuitry.
3.. They share the same Tesoro quick-response/fast-recovery performance that has made Tesoro recognized in the industry since the Inca's release in '83.
4.. They operate in the 10 kHz to 12 kHz frequency range that fits with the optimum or ideal general purpose frequency determined by George Payne. (He stated a 12.5 kHz frequency to be about ideal and used that frequency when he designed the Discovery Treasure Baron line.. From using a wide-range of detectors from different manufacturers, I have settled on a versatile or optimal 'general purpose' frequency being ±2½ kHz of that. Thus, a well designed detector operating in the 10 kHz to 15 kHz range.)
5.. They share all of the same series of Tesoro search coils, both Concentric (my favorites) and Double-D types.
These two Silver Sabre models do have some design differences, however, such as:
The Silver Sabre II has a Threshold-based All Metal search mode with a slow auto-tune and a toggle-select manual retune. This provides users the ability to search in a silent-search, motion-based Discriminate mode OR a Threshold-based All Metal mode. The All Metal mode can also be used to isolate or pinpoint a target.
The Silver Sabre µMAX, not a 'u' the µ symbol stands for 'micro' so µMAX is pronounced microMAX. This model is a silent-search, motion Based Discriminator and does NOT have a selectable All Metal mode. It does have a Pinpoint function which is a momentary Threshold-based All Metal Pinpoint feature to help size-and-shape as well as pinpoint a target.
General History (but not as complete as what Sandman once offered and no, I never copied it
) leading to these two models and what I consider to be some of my all-time favorite Tesoro models. As some have mentioned, while they are so very similar in many ways, they both have their different strengths. They are very good detectors for many 'average' Hobbyists for many types of hunting, but more Avid Detectorists might take advantages of their more controllable (manual GB'ed) Bandido counter-parts.
The ED-120 Discrimination circuitry was something Tesoro brought out in March of 1990 when they introduced the original Bandido. This model features a Threshold-Based All Metal mode with an external, 10-turn Ground Balance control. It became very popular and also became my most used detector model for Coin & Jewelry Hunting, but especially for Relic Hunting all the old iron-infested sites I enjoy. I preferred the smaller-size 7" Concentric coil back then to the standard white-colored 8" Concentric 'donut' coil, and the combination of the excellent circuitry and 7" coil rewarded me well at many homesteads, ghost towns, stage stops and railroad depot and siding sites, and 1800's era encampments in Arizona, California, Colorado, Idaho, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah, Washington, Wyoming and a few other places.
The Bandido was very popular, and in September of '91 Tesoro used the same under-slung control housing and essentially the same circuitry when they introduced the 'turn-on-and-go' Silver Sabre II with the preset GB. Same basic performance as the original Bandido, just 'simplified' w/o the manual GB option. Back then I kept one of each of these models, the Bandido & Silver Sabre II, in my detector travel arsenal and used them both with great success.
The 'original' Bandido continued in production until 6/'96, but in 1/'96 Tesoro offered a new 'upgrade' of that original in the Bandido II, and that model continued in production to 9/'97. Both in the same housing and same controls and virtually identical in-the-field performance with one exception. The 'original' Bandido has a slow auto-tune speed in the All Metal mode. I found it, and still do, very functional for most urban Coin Hunting as well as remote-site Relic Hunting needs.
The Bandito II has one added toggle switch on the control panel for Normal/Manual Retune or Auto which is a very fast Auto-Tune. Jack Gifford told me that the main purpose for that addition to make the Bandido II was to appeal to Gold Nugget Hunters who wanted to hunt in All Metal, but in uneven or changing grounds the faster Auto-tune speed was preferred to the slower auto-tune circuitry of the original Bandido. Personally, I liked both the Bandido & Bandido II back then, and still admire what they offer today. (Note, below, that I do have an 'original' Bandido in my Regular-Use Detector Team that I keep a thin-profile 6" Concentric coil mounted to.)
In October of 1997 we saw a pronounced change in BOTH the Bandido series and Silver Sabre series with the introduction of two new models, the Bandido II µMAX and Silver Sabre µMAX. Both were in the smaller control housing, used the ED-120 acceptance range Disc. circuitry, used the same coils as the former models and provided very similar performance. The differences between them was that while they both had a variable Threshold control on the front panel, the Bandido II microMAX also had a 3¾-turn manual GB and the Silver Sabre microMAX is the internally preset GB design.
The Bandido II µMAX, the last of the four model Bandido series, has the two toggles like the former Bandido II to select the All Metal or Discriminate mode, and to also select Normal/Manual retune or Auto-tune. The Silver Sabre µMAX, the last of the four Silver Sabre series, lacks an All Metal search mode but has the momentary All Metal Pinpoint button.
Both of those new microMAX models featured the new or improved Low-Noise/High-Gain circuitry. The purpose or benefit of that was to reduce or filter some of the noisy operation while boosting the gain and provide a little more saturated audio and louder response from mid-depth and slightly deeper targets than the former models, the Bandido, Bandido II and Silver Sabre II they replaced in the product line.
They still work very well in all types of Coin Hunting, Jewelry Hunting and Relic Hunting >>>> HOWEVER <<<< from the October day in '97 right up to this past few days of checking out some search coils I have, I STILL GIVE A SLIGHT EDGE to my 'original' Bandido over my Bandido II µMAX in a couple of really tough side-by-side target masking tests.
The same very slight edge goes to the earlier Silver Sabre II over the newer and hotter or 'sparkier' Silver Sabre µMAX. But that 'edge' is when we are talking a really tough masking test when the problem masking trash is a ferrous based piece of junk. Not always easily observed, but from the day a friend and fellow Tesoro Dealer & I got the Bandido II µMAX and did a quick test with a US 5¢ nickel coin compared with his original Bandido and Golden Sabre II (a turn-on-and-go of the Pantera circuitry) and my Bandido II and Pantera, all using a Tesoro 8" Concentric coil, we could see the strengths of the new Bandido II µMAX as well as a weakness in that particular iron nails & nickel test.
The term "see through" is really a misstatement because it is partly a matter of 'averaging' signals, but also how the EMF is shaped and the ability of the field to see multiple targets 'with' each other and not necessarily 'through.'Quote
Tom in CA
Ahh, so in-so-far as ability to see through a rusty nail, to get a conductive ("averaged-up") beep off a coin under a nail, they would be identical in ability. Eh ? I thought there was some benefit to the earlier generation of sabre. Is there any other generation sabre besides these 2 ?
Anyway, YES, I feel the earlier versions had just a bit of an edge in unmasking desirable targets in a rusty iron nail mix, and maybe deal with a few other ferrous littered sites just a little bit better. That said, if the trash level is low-to-moderate, the more favorable performing µMAX versions might be able to provide a little louder audio response on the mid-depth and deeper targets compared with the earlier Bandido II and Silver Sabre II, or be a little deeper-seeking than the earlier versions.
For Relic Hunting, which I am guessing you might want to use them for, and just a general use/have handy detector model, the only models in the Silver Sabre series I would recommend are the Silver Sabre II and Silver Sabre µMAX.
For more versatility by having an external manual GB controls, I would recommend the original Bandido, the Bandido II and the Bandido II µMAX. One benefit they have is you are able to 'calibrate' (meaning adjust for a proper and functional GB setting) with different search coils. This can result in adjusting for any ground mineral environment, especially enhancing the Discriminate mode for peak performance.
In the original frequency group of models that all share the same search coils, other than the Silver Sabre and Bandido series models I refer to in this thread, the only other coil-sharing models I would consider would be the 2-Tone Golden Sabre II (turn-on-and-go) or originator of that circuitry, the Pantera (manual GB ) which have almost the same ED-120 Disc range, but use the larger-size housing (like the current Lobo SuperTRAQ) and 8-AA alkaline batteries instead of the 1 or 2 9-V batteries of the Silver Sabre and Bandido series models.
Questions, if I have confused you or maybe left something out, just drop me an e-mail.
Hey, if you can make it to our 5th Welcome-to-Hunt Outing based out of Wells, Nevada this coming May, Thursday the 18th thru Sunday May 21st, I might still have an extra Tesoro on-hand as a loaner for you to check out. I have a very nice, and 'hot' original Bandido and also a 'hot' Bandido II µMAX I'm going to sell. If I haven't, I'll bring them along for folks to try, and on the last 3 WTHO's I have ended up selling ALL of the extra Silver Sabre II, Bandido, Bandido II and Bandido II µMAX models I can get on-hand for the outings. These are 'extra' models as my personal inventory is Not For sale.
Monte
Metal Detector Evaluations and Product Reviews
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Re: Difference @ the Silver Sabre II vs the Silver Sabre Umax ? March 28, 2017 10:04AM |
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marcomo
Sandman, I admire your doggedness. Hopefully, Tom will be proven right and all your hard work is not lost forever.
Hey marcomo!
Great to see you.
I love the Rat Phones you sold me at a good price.
I count those headphones among my prized possessions.
Too nice to take out in the field, I just wear them around the house.
LOL!
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marcomo
Hopefully, Tom will be proven right and all your hard work is not lost forever
This is what I saw once...................
I saw "archives" of long past posts, posts from that very same forum, reposted, and they appeared the same as the original.
Can't say for certain if there are outfits that "Data Mine", professional diggers that get paid a fee to dig.
But I saw it. Posts that were no longer available, brought back from the past and reposted.
Here it is in a walnut...........
Three/ four years ago I got piled on by three,.... how do I say it, their not here to speak up for themselves.
Let's just say unfriendly guys. I held my temper, stayed in line with forum rules, but got cussed at and called a lot of names.
I bowed out. I posted that I would only come around once a year, to wish everyone a happy new year when the 1st rolled around.
That was about three/ four years ago.
Late last year I got notice by email, from the provider of that forum, that out of the clear blue sky,... my posts were being deleted.
I emailed the new admin, and in a nice / fair way, asked what on earth was going on over there.
The email I sent, I can post it here. I was cool, I wasn't a jerk.
I had already figured out what was going on,.... because I read the deleted posts, two of them, in text format.
You see,.... follow me here.....
The guys that piled on me went back and deleted all those posts, their posts.......
But I predicted that while they were piling on me.
So I "Quoted" their posts in my replies.
That locked the content.........
Because that forum didn't have an admin, it was on auto pilot.
About middle of last year a new member started being abusive.
Bad language, posting in bad taste, etc.
That combined with an ever increasing amount of spam advertising prompted one of the members to contact the forum provider.
He explained the problem and they gave him the admin privileges..
The problem arises in the fact that this member didn't have any experience at being an admin.
I honestly think the best way to go once he had "the key to the castle", was to hold a member vote, or who ever has the time, and experience.....
There are smart people there, one guy is extra smart, plus he has had his own forum, and built a beautiful website.
That's the guy who is co-admin there now, nice and peaceful over there now, and no more spam.
So, you guys already see where this went.
The guy that cussed me out, called me a bunch of names, a full page of insults, broke forum rules.......
He saw, at last, an opportunity to delete the last of the evidence of when I got thrashed in front of the whole world.
He contacts the new admin and says something like,.... "that was a long time ago", "what's the value of it?, "it's not about metal detecting".
Or how ever he sliced the baloney,..... LOL
Maybe he should open a delicatessen and sell sandwiches,.... LOL
Well, the new admin had no idea of his responsibilities as an admin.
I think I can speak for anyone reading this.
An admin would never go behind the scenes and delete one members posts at the request of another member.
The reply to a request like that would be......
"Sorry", there is no way I am going to delete any of SandMan's posts.
You and a couple of other guys thrashed him, he took the fade and hasn't done any posting here in three years!
He was the forum's most prolific poster. So thanks for that.
And now you want me to delete some of his posts?
No way.
"Why don't you email him, tell him you feel bad, tell him you were drunk, ask him, maybe he'll delete it himself".
But no, he broke the trust between forum admin and it's members.
I sent a couple of more emails to that admin.
I pointed out what he did was unthinkable.
I remained cool, I conducted myself same as if I was posting on a public forum.
Oh, every email I sent,.... I addressed BCC to a half a dozen trusted members.
Just to keep things on the square.
I said like this........
"What you did wasn't right, think of it as evidence.
If you destroy evidence in a trial it's is a criminal act.
It's unethical.
People that do that wind up in prison."
He quote's on the forum...........
"SandMan emailed me and said I was unethical, that I'm a criminal and should be sent to prison!"
It was hilarious!
Keep in mind a half a dozen other members got the same email,... LOL
Well, it was hilarious for about one minute.................
He "BANNED" me and deleted all my posts.
Wasn't so funny after that.
One person spoke up for me.
A veteran member with a lot of power on that forum posted.....
"Un-ban SandMan, leave the door open in case he ever want's to come back".
And so it was done.
I am un-banned, but all my posts remain deleted.
Have to be honest here.
There is a rumor that if I log in over there, all my posts will magically reappear.
But I do know one thing. If that is actually possible, that means that an to email the forum provider and they could restore those posts.
Maybe yes, maybe no.
I took this stance...
If my mom said it once, she said it a thousand times.
"If you make a mess, clean it up"
I wasn't responsible for any that madness over there.
Just the opposite, I posted "a lot" of good content, and I was always cracking jokes.
I don't get how I got hammered so bad, I was a member in good standing.
Now all this talk about the greater good, from my own mouth no less.
Someone here is bound to think, "if there is a chance it will work go over there and try logging in".
Then I think to myself, "if they felt the content was of any value why haven't they lifted a finger to restore those posts?"
Maybe they have tried, and they are gone with the wind.
Greater good trumps a grudge.
I am going over there and try logging in.
If it works, I'll be back with links.
If it doesn't I'll be back with dismal news.
Here goes, cross your fingers.
I'm sorry guys, their truly gone, all of them.... gone.
That little green dot in the corner of my avatar shows that I was logged in when I took that screenshot.
Well, this brings up something.
When those first two post were deleted, I received the back up copies.
When the 1400+ posts were deleted, I didn't receive anything, not a thing.
I kinda thought it was just too big to put in a zip file.
Those first two came a zip files.
I have the very creepy feeling that they are gone for good.
I liked it better when I had a little hope.
I'm going to do some cussing now.
Well marcomo, I said I would give it to you in a walnut............
That is the biggest damned walnut I have ever seen!
LOL!
SandMan
PS: I'm sure some of you guys are saying.....
"This guy posts a lot, but it's a lot of forum drama and nonsense".
Not really, it was a long winded story with a very important lesson learned.
"If you have put a lot of time and hard work into some content, save a back up copy."
"Never" leave valuable content solely in the hands of others.
Because if you do, you risk someone doing something irresponsible, and it's gone, without any hope of recovery.
SM
What a mess
