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Equinox 800 and tone break.
December 29, 2017 03:40PM
(Other machines have adjustable tone breaks like the Racer 2, and the Impact, this article will be addressing the Equinox).

The Minelab Equinox 800 has an adjustable tone break. Basically, for those who do not know, you can adjust the break point between certain target identification(TID) numbers. So for example, you can use a multi-tone(2 tone for example) and adjust the change in tone at say a nickel TID. Now everything BELOW a nickel will have one tone, and above the nickel will have another tone. Some may begin to see the advantages already, however, for those that may want to go deeper with this, here are parts of a great article from Tom Dankowski titled "When ADJUSTABLE Iron Discrimination is Paramount":

"Metal detectors that discriminate 'iron'......the ENTIRE range of iron......(sometimes called 'notch' discrimination).......are NOT the type of units that qualify .....and should not be utilized.....in nail-infested relic hunting applications High Resolution Iron Discrimination........where you can adjust HOW MUCH iron is to be discriminated......is of extreme importance"

An important statement basically saying that, to get the most out of a site, you want better control of iron discrimination. Better control with-in the iron range. Low and sometimes medium range conductors in certain conditions, can dip into the near upper limit in the iron zone.

For example; The TID on the Equinox for iron is -9 to 0. In certain conditions, a $1 gold coin may read as a 0 or even a -2.

So how would the adjustable tone break help us in that situation? Easy. Just adjust the tone break to -2. Now everything above -2 would give an high tone allowing you to hear possible good target in the upper iron range!
Re: Equinox 800 and tone break.
December 29, 2017 04:11PM
That's Great to have! I have some detectors like the MXT Pro, F75 and Omega etc. that can do that. They have a little more iron range though. If the Equinox can do all that they claim it can, I'm buying one.

tabman
Re: Equinox 800 and tone break.
December 29, 2017 04:46PM
@Tabman:
The F75 cannot do adjustable tone-break - either above or below the ferrous/non-ferrous threshold. It's one of the features that would really benefit the machine, but it seems we're not likely to see it happen. FT engineers have stated that for technical reasons, it's 'not possible'.

If the Equinox were missing the tone-break feature, it would be quite an oversight, but thankfully their engineers have done their homework.
Re: Equinox 800 and tone break.
December 29, 2017 04:48PM
If i'm on a busy site and not digging the odd small nail, i drop my tone break until i am digging them.
Re: Equinox 800 and tone break.
December 29, 2017 04:57PM
Are two tones all the Eq can do or can there be more tones?
Re: Equinox 800 and tone break.
December 29, 2017 05:13PM
PhDtector Wrote:
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> Are two tones all the Eq can do or can there be mo
> re tones?


No it has 1...2... 5....50
Re: Equinox 800 and tone break.
December 29, 2017 05:58PM
Pimento Wrote:
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> @Tabman:
> The F75 cannot do adjustable tone-break - e
> ither above or below the ferrous/non-ferrous thres
> hold. It's one of the features that would really b
> enefit the machine, but it seems we're not likely
> to see it happen. FT engineers have stated that fo
> r technical reasons, it's 'not possible'.
>
> If the Equinox were missing the tone-break feature
> , it would be quite an oversight, but thankfully t
> heir engineers have done their homework.

Oh heck, I should have stopped off at the MXT Pro. I don't do a lot of hunting in the iron using a tone break. When I posted I had mind set on iron range rather than tone break. Thanks for clearing that up.

tabaman
Re: Equinox 800 and tone break.
December 30, 2017 03:53AM
Beyonder-Pa Wrote:
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> (Other machines have adjustable tone breaks like t
> he Racer 2, and the Impact, this article will be a
> ddressing the Equinox).
>
> The Minelab Equinox 800 has an adjustable tone bre
> ak. Basically, for those who do not know, you can
> adjust the break point between certain target iden
> tification(TID) numbers. So for example, you can u
> se a multi-tone(2 tone for example) and adjust the
> change in tone at say a nickel TID. Now everything
> BELOW a nickel will have one tone, and above the n
> ickel will have another tone. Some may begin to se
> e the advantages already, however, for those that
> may want to go deeper with this, here are parts of
> a great article from Tom Dankowski titled "When
> ADJUSTABLE Iron Discrimination is Paramount
":
>
> "Metal detectors that discriminate 'iron'......
> the ENTIRE range of iron......(sometimes called 'n
> otch' discrimination).......are NOT the type of un
> its that qualify .....and should not be utilized..
> ...in nail-infested relic hunting applications Hig
> h Resolution Iron Discrimination........where you
> can adjust HOW MUCH iron is to be discriminated...
> ...is of extreme importance"

>
> An important statement basically saying that, to g
> et the most out of a site, you want better control
> of iron discrimination. Better control with-in the
> iron range. Low and sometimes medium range conduct
> ors in certain conditions, can dip into the near u
> pper limit in the iron zone.
>
> For example; The TID on the Equinox for iron is -9
> to 0. In certain conditions, a $1 gold coin may re
> ad as a 0 or even a -2.
>
> So how would the adjustable tone break help us in
> that situation? Easy. Just adjust the tone break t
> o -2. Now everything above -2 would give an high t
> one allowing you to hear possible good target in t
> he upper iron range!


I don't have Equinox yet.

So I can't say how it will work as far as the ID and tones go.
Your comment above as far as the " easy" part.

Maybe or maybe not.

Need to see how the Equniox reports, it's tendencies.

Deus is just one example.
It gives higher ( non iron) tone sometimes on nonferrous with ID guess where?
In iron range-below disc setting
And this is with first tone break set automatically due to disc setting.
This using multitone.
But a user can witness Deus reporting using full tones 0 disc(higher tone signals p) on nonferrous to read meter wise 00,01,02,03,04,05,06.....all of these are traditionally iron ID.
So we'll see.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/30/2017 04:04AM by Sod-buster.