Deus V4.0 vs V4.1 updated 2-12-2018 Video link added (ground sensitivity setting)

Since I have multiple units w/coils.
I plan on doing head to head comparisons using a 9" LF coil on each detector.
One being V4.0 and the other being loaded with V4.1.

Need to see what this ground sensitivity setting allowed on V 4.1 is doing- good or bad.
Forgot to say, the same full headphone will be used for comparison (different module of course).
Will post results here.



Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 02/12/2018 05:06PM by Sod-buster.

I tried the beta a few months ago and found it average, the Deus had to have a perfect GB to get any depth in my soil, the tracking was terrible, GB jumped silly, like 85 one moment to 60's, farted and popped, hated it's GB setup.
Perhaps they have fine tuned it, but on a busy site tracking was a no go, looking forward to hearing how you find it.

Alright
I will start here with info.
I will keep posting here and will not bump until I am finished.
So those who want to read can follow along if they wish as I post info.
I will date my info here so folks can realize what have and haven't read.

Metals detecting testing is fun.
Can be challenging too.
Look

Outside temp 16F.


All my testing will be done, even comparing test between V4 and V4.1.
9" LF coil
Hot program
Sens 93
Reactivty 2.5, 3 and 4.
Silencer -1
Freq will use 18khz and 8khz.
Audio response 5
Disc 0 full tones,
No notch or ground notch.

1-17-2018
Today using 18khz only using version 4.1 just sweeping.
The following noted.
Field cleaner site.
4 ticks in mineralization meter when bobbing coil over clean ground.

Tracking GB used exclusively.

Sweeping coil using default ground sensitive setting (level 6) no top number in phase meter ever. Bottom number stayed at 88.
Bobbing coil would yield a ground phase number matching actual ground in both top and bottom of phase meter.
But after bobbing coil, sweeping GB phase of actual ground drops off. And 88 displayed-bottom number.

Lowering to 4 on ground sense setting. Even bobbing coil no numbers in either meter corresponding to actual ground.
Level 5 setting bobbing coil yielded actual,ground phase numbers in both meters.

Raising ground sens to 7, and sweeping coil,,actual ground phase info would come into both top and bottom meters, but would quite often drop out of top meter, making it blank.
Bottom number would hold, but every now and then go to 88, and with more sweeping would lock back to ground.

Raising to level 8, behavior similar to level 7 but unit would hold actual ground phase more often. Fewer moments of 88 readings with bottom number.

Raising to level 9, again better actual ground phase tracking.

Raising to level 10, here V4.1 seems to emulate what I am more accustomed to seeing with versions 3.2 and 4.0.
Detector keeps actual ground phase in window never ever drops out. (This statement here applies to clean ground only)

Now next I did a comparison with just monitoring noise as coil was swept. Compared ground sens levels 4 and 10.
Level 4 definitely quieter.
Remember this not talking here about how potential depth may be affected.

More data.
Same field as above.
Disclaimer: in some spots in this field I do get 5 ticks in mineral strength meter.

Still exclusively using 9" LF coil version 4.1.
Did a straight up comparison using actual phase attained using pumping GB dialing this value in using manual ground balance (phase 77 btw)
Sweeping over the patch of ground standing in the same place. Compared ground sensitivity settings levles 1, default setting 6 and 10. Level 1 the quietest, noise when sweeping elevated going to level 6, with even more noise elevation going to max level 10.

Next took a look at achieving bobbing GB while in GB tracking using freqs of 4, 8 and 18khz.
As I said before ground sensitivity set to level 4 in 18khz, no GB phase displayed bobbing coil in tracking GB.
Uaing 4 kHz and 8khz bobbing coil in tracking, GB achievable with ground sensitivity at level 2, with 8khz taking longer (more bobs) vs 4 kHz.

Should also commmet here. I could hear feedback as coil was lowered (based on ground sensitivity setting) meaning I saw a pattern where I had a pretty good idea if a bobbing GB while in tracking GB was achievable.

This concludes today's testing.
More tomorrow hopefully

1-18-2018
More data

Comparing ground sensitivity settings of 1 and 10, airtest on clad dime, I see no real differences.
Only used 18khz to test, Reactivty 2.5, GB set to 90..

Compared level 1 and 10 ground sensitivity settings while holding detector pointed up at light wires and transformer, to see if Deus chatter or noise affected. No real differences noted.

Take a look at this pic. A nail and small piece of lead.


Using disc setting 2.5 full tones 18khz Reactivty 3, swing across nail and small piece of lead.
Detector ground balanced to steps phase 78.
Comparing ground sensitivity settings.
The lead object tonal presentation is more corrupt at ground sensitivity level 10. Tone is blurtier sounding and shorter, compared to lower ground sens settings, Level 1 provides a more robust, and more actual nonferrous pitched signal.
I do realize this is on top of the steps (ground) test, but I do think it sheds light here on application of ground sensitivity setting.
Doing this test and seeing (hearing) results, the small piece of lead, more odds of detecting with lower than max setting of ground sensitivity setting. I did keep my sweep speed consistent when comparing. Faster sweep speed although extremely small gives better detection here with lower ground sensitivity settings. This was a 2d dimensional test.

Another test, this time 3D.
2 nails above clad dime.


On the same set of steps with detector manually GB to steps.
Reactivty 3 18khz silencer -1, full tones.
I dialed disc to 4, this gets rid of nails when swept solo.
Sweeping the setup in pic, ground sensitivity level 10, a shorter tone, more blunt sounding, more easily confused with iron signal. Lower ground sensitvty setting tone gets more full, robust, longer, cleaner sounding on the edges. Again lower ground sens settings IMO allows faster sweep speed, coil movement and be alerted to suspect target.

More data
Deus V4.1 with 9" round HF coil
I took the detector for a spin in the same field as yesterday.
As far as ground balance tracking goes, very similar behavior to the 9" LF coil when sweeping.
One thing I did notice different vs the 9" LF coil.
The round HF coil will actually get a ground balance with tracking GB selected when bobbing coil with lower ground sensitivity levels selected.. But 54 kHz needed higher value than 14.4khz and 28.8 kHz to accomplish.

Here might be the biggie though.
So far when testing the round HF coil, doing even the same 3D test above using the 2 nails and clad dime and some other 2d separation test with nails,,so far it seems ground sensitivity setting has NO effect. I listened close. Definitely not like the 9" LF coil here.
If I see some thing to reverse what I have said here on this I'll admit and post.

More data
Took the HF elliptical coil for a spin in same field V4.1.
It behaves similar as far as tracking GB goes as the rest of coils.
Ground sensitivity level 8 and higher would hold a good tracking GB, level 7 hit and miss, anything lower default to 88.
It like the round HF seems will achieve a gb when tracking GB is selected while bobbing coil, allowing lower ground sensitivity setting vs 9"LF coil,

And I also did a few separation and unmasking tests. It too mimmicks round HF coil, meaning ground sensitivity setting doesn't affect tonal signature unlike the the 9"LF coil.
I will definitely be watching this in the field.
The ground sensitivity setting does affect the way Deus tracks using both HF coils.

More data.
An actual head to head comparison using 2 completely differnent Deus units one V4.0 the other V4.1, both wearing 9" LF coils
Take a look at this pic, clad dime and nail


I booby trapped this nail and dime and used V4.1 Deus (ground sensitivity setting at 10) to rig to get just a flash of hit on the dime.
Settings used here on both detectors
Sens 93
Disc 2.5 full tones
Silencer -1
Reactivty 4
Ground balance manual 78
Audio response 5
Now the 4.0 coil was running at 17603 hz
The 4.1 coil was running at 17730hz

No hanky panky here, a fair test.
It has been said a ground sensitivity setting level V4.1 = 10 when compared to Deus V4.0.
Down the barrel sweep.
Disclaimer here: backphones wore on both detecrors, winds light.

Based on comparing using both detectors with the V 4.1 Deus set to 10 ground sensitivity it for all practical purposes mirrored the 4.0 version setup.
But here were the differences noted with changing ground sensitivity setting sweeping the same exact scenario.
Between ground sensitivity levels 5-7 the signal provided on V4.1 Deus better, more repetitive fuller sounding.
Lower than 5 really no signal at all.
IMO even dialing 4.1version to a level 9 setting beat the V4.0 version setup( remember no ground sensitivity setting on it)

Maybe this is a hint here with this test why default level ground sensivity is level 6 Deus V4.1.



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Dang Sod, You are Hardcore!

Thanks for your testing Sod-buster. I'm hoping the ground sensitivity setting clears up some of the raspy distortion in the audio. I love my deus, it's found great stuff in some busted sites, I don't mind blending, bleeding, or signals together, but some of the static type distortion is my only complaint with the deus. By the way the mi6 is pairing lightning fast now, and coil pairs back on really fast too! Keep the deus info coming.

Blackflag Wrote:
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> Thanks for your testing Sod-buster. I'm hoping the
> ground sensitivity setting clears up some of the r
> aspy distortion in the audio. I love my deus, it's
> found great stuff in some busted sites, I don't mi
> nd blending, bleeding, or signals together, but so
> me of the static type distortion is my only compla
> int with the deus. By the way the mi6 is pairing l
> ightning fast now, and coil pairs back on really f
> ast too! Keep the deus info coming.


You are quite welcome.

I too have been restricted due to snow and low temps.
But some folks (Deus owners) may be even more restricted than I am.
So this info may help them when they can detect and help with some of the mystery of the V4.1

Today I am going to try to do some actual detecting.
And do some test on freshly buried targets, in an area with more harsh soil.

One thing I didn't comment on above, I should have, but didn't test.
What is this exactly?
Just how much quieter do both of the HF coils run with lower than max ground sensitivity setting, especially at default level 6 setting.

I certainly don't know how my test of on top of the steps will actually apply as far as in ground targets.
But so far using my Deus and previous versions, a WHOLE of what I have seen on top of these steps and on top of the ground HAS been seen (heard) on in ground targets in the wild.

Some folks may be clinging on to earlier versions of Deus.
That's ok.

But if what I have witnessed thus far holds up for in the wild. IMO V4.1, moving to it a wise move.

More posted here later today.
This is work too.
I don't mind.
I need to know this info too, to be a better Deus user.

1-19-2018

All Deus LF coil users may find helpful.

First of all, many XP Deus users were impatient it seems with Xp's rollout of V4.1. I plus many others were experiencing link up problems, even frozen screens, loss of audio for extended times in conjunction with the MI-6 pinpointer use. Well the supposed delay of V4.1 most folks may have thought it was fixing the problems associated with MI-6 pointer. I really don't know. But will say the delay could have been getting V4.1 correct for what they had in mind with the LF coils. Folks may be raising their eyebrows by reading the last statement. But after you read what I am about to post, it will defintiely be more clear to you.

If folks thought the Deus and use of LF coils was deadly, even in iron, I've got news for folks. Version 4.1 is NOT a bells and whistles update. Sure it seems to have remedied the problems associated with pinpointer use but the version does much more. This improvement seems to be linked to the ground sensitivity setting which is accessed under expert tab after a person selects ground balance.

Today I spent 5 hours afield testing and using Deus V4.0 and Deus V4.1.
I used 9" LF coils, round HF coil, and the elliptical HF coil.

What I witnessed today all Deus users using LF coils wil benefit. Looking for coins, jewelry, and relics.

To start the day off I went to an old fort site where back in circa 1990 it was studied and parts of dug up. When finished the team purposely broadcast zinc washers in this area. So these washers have been buried for around 25 plus years. A great test bed. Depth of washer vary in the site. This area not tilled since the archeological investigation/ dig.
I have spoken to the landowner and he attest this site not tilled since his purchasing in 1992. The team was almost finished when he purchased the farm.

So my goal was to find what I thought was a few of the washers that were challenged, either by depth, orientation, or partially masked. Today I found 2 such washers.

I actually used the round HF coil dialed to 28.8khz to find one of the washers and Deus V4.1 using 9" LF coil to find the other.

These washers are zinc it seems, so not low conductors.
Here is a pic of both of them I dug today.


The soil in this site shows 5-6 dots when pumping coil over clean ground.

All detectors today were ran right at actual ground phase setting using manual GB.
Hot program used.
Silencer setting -1 used for all test and later even detecting in the wild.
Highest freq band (18khz) used unless otherwise noted using LF coils.

Both of the above washers, depth wise, one at 6" approx deep, the other at 6.5" deep. I cannot vouch for the orientation of either washer. I suspect they may have been tilted, one of the washers may have had some masking going on with some iron near, based on what I was hearing.

Both of these washers gave much better audio with ground sensitivity setting set between levels 5-7.
I even did a head to head using Deus V4 9" LF coil comparison on the washers undisturbed.
All day today all comparisons comparing Deus V4 vs Deus V4.1 using 9" LF coils all mirrored one another as long as the V4.1 setup had ground sensitivity set to max of 10.

So what did adjusting ground sensitivity do for the signals?
Like I said these 2 targets best signal ( cleanest, least iron sound on edges) was when levels 5-7 selected.
Going lower or going higher both washers sounded the same, lots of iron tinge I signals edge. Higher levels than 7 seems to make signal shorter more abrupt.

On the washer where I suspected some masking going on. When approaching this buried zinc washer using the LF coil V4.1 ground sensitivity set to 10, approaching the same way as I actually found using round HF coil 28.8 kHz, tonally nothing I would have dug. But with this same approach angle dial ground sensitivity to 5-7 I would dig all day long. I did compare both these washers using round HF coil dialed to 14.4 kHz. Both washers yielded better signals with round high coil 14.4 kHz vs LF coils set to 18khz. Special note here, and I saw this yesterday with my on top concrete steps testing. Using round HF coil here (didn't check these 2 washers using elliptical HF coil), both washers' signal, NO help at all adjusting ground sensitivity setting. Levels 1, 6,7, and 10 all sounded the same quality to me. I was wearing full headphones btw.

Next test was a freshly buried clad dime approx Garrett propointer length deep.

I compared V4 Deus and V4.1 LF coils setups as well as both HF coils.

Both LF coil setups mirrored one another again as long as V4.1 coil ground sensitivity setting was dialed level 10 max.

Up into sweeping the dime using V4.1 coil setup, signal,was Chopped, lowering ground sensitivity setting to level 6 or 7 gave the smoothest signal. Going lower this buried dime signal acted more like what I heard using a ground sensitivity level 10 setting.
Strength of tone comparing level 10 vs level 6 or 7, I heard no difference. But levels 6 and 7 provided better overall tonal quality.

Both levels 6 and 7 outperformed level 10, with even letting Deus after selecting Reactivty 2 and letting silencer level go to its default setting.

Here is some thing some may find interesting.
Round HF coil actually underperformed signal wise compared to Deus LF coil V4.1 with the ground sensivity setting set to levels 6 and 7.
And this difference noted here was more when both coil setups when Reactivty 2 selected and silencer migrates to higher level be default.

On the freshly buried clad dime using V4.1 9" LF coil freq 12khz band outperformed using the highest band 18khz. I did not compare V4.0 9" LF coil while using 12khz band. Keep in mind this was a freshly buried target. I thing both HF coils have some problems in disturbed soil. Morseso than the LF coils do.

So I packed up and went about 600 yards to a site I have hunted quite a bit. To see what I could find, and yes do some comparisons.

The ground in this next site same/similar mineralized as the site talked about above. All targets discovered and compared with GB dialed to actual GB phase all detector/coil setups.

Here is a pic of what I found. I will discuss each as far as what I witnessed.



I started off in this site thinking, maybe if I use the round HF coil, maybe I can find something nonferrous faster. No guarantee though the V4.1 LF 9" coil would see. Anyway this is what I did.
Used Reactivty 3 btw on round HF coil and when comparing using V4.1 LF coil used the same Reactivty 3.
First target turned out to be the small foil above in pic.
I checked this suspect target with round HF coil using 14.4 kHz and could hear although not as nicely as using 28.8khz. So I Was thinking the 9" LF coil would hit it.
Sweeping the V4.1 9" LF coil with ground sensitvty setting with same coil approach angle as how I actually discovered this target originally, with ground
sensitivity set to 10-- NOTHING I would ever think about digging. Lowered ground sensitivity setting to 6, I could hear this target pretty good. Now pivoting around on this target I could get some thing more worth investigating using ground sensitivity 10 setting. Sweeping this foil from angle I originaly found, lower ground sensitivity levels lower than 5 yielded no benefits, actually signal here (gobblygook/static) sounded like it did with level 10 setting. With best approach angle swinging coil both level 6 and 10 ground sensitvty settings sounded more near one another(quality wise). Piece of foil a mere 2" deep approx. There was ferrous around this foil multiple directions.

Next the object on the left a small piece of lead I think.
This target also found with round HF coil initially.
Sweeping this lead target undisturbed again using higher levels of ground sensitivity settings yielded poorer signals as well as ground sensitivity levels of 3 and lower. Both lower and higher ground sensitvty settings sounded the same to me signal quality wise.

Next is the bigger piece of lead, looks like a deformed bullet.
This nonferrous target was again discovered using round HF coil at 28.8 kHz. I rate this signal achieved even using Round HF using 28.8 kHz as compromised but not enough to keep me from locating. Switching to 14.4khz using round HF coil yielded a worse signal than 28.8khz but better than the V4.1 9" LF coil (all ground sensitivity settings).
So yes sweeping this bullet undisturbed, it was the only target nonferrous I found today where adjusting ground sensitivity setting didn't help one iota. I would have bet listening if I would have only swept with LF coil it was a piece of flat iron.

So I took a break for a few minutes, and thought to myself. How about trying to locate a nonferrous target using V4.1lf coil with ground sensitivity dialed to 6 and have a go, based on what I had witnessed thus far.

Well off I went and I got a hit. A hit I would have rated as > 90 percent chance of being nonferrous. But dialing ground sensivity setting up to 10 and sweeping the odds I place the would ace been < 15 percent chance. This was even pivoting all the way around the target while sweeping. Turned out to be the piece of brass or something. It does havw some green patina on it.

So in a nutshell.
IMO Deus V4.1 can indeed hunt behind V4.0 using LF coils.
I have not experimented or tested or hunted using either of my 11" LF coils.

All comparisons done today again I repeat, I never did see where adjusting ground sensitivity setting on high freq coils improved anything.

I should also point out. Unless my ears are bad. Running both the LF coils and HF coils,,using lower or lowest Ground sensitivity setting with all coils run at being actually balanced to ground, I saw no difference in less noise being heard.

I did comment in earlier post where a level 4 setting was quieter than level 10, remember though at level 4 the Deus goes to default 88 GB setting, well above my ground phase, hence it is quieter.



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Based on my experiences today.
Deus V4.1 using at least the 9" LF coil, relics, the $1 gold coin ,etc are in more danger vs older versions Deus.
See above.

I need to test 11" LF coil.

I wonder, how close can I get 11" LF coil to matching 9" LF coil.
With 11" LF coil ground sensitivty dialed to 6, leaving 9" LF coil dialed to level 10 ??

We'll see.

Some other things I need to check.
Deep mode V4.0 not one of my favorite programs,,makes me dig deeper iron more often. So need to see if lowering ground sensitivity deep mode V4.1 is better vs V4.0.

Also need to see how Tx power one plays here. I have not used it yet with V4.1.
Could using tx power 1 used in conjunction with lower ground sensitvty help Deus unmask/ separate better?

Need to compare 12khz with 6 ground sensivity setting to 18khz ground sensitivity set to 10.

Need to try and find some more challenged nonferrous targets and compare signals with actual ground balance vs an 88 default setting- in real polluted site.



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Those washers look like they have red rust, so I’m sure they’re made of low carbon steel. They may have had a thin shiny zinc chromate plating, or a heavier zinc dip but it looks like that’s been consumed through corrosion. I’ve never seen a solid zinc washer.

Do they stick to a magnet?

Do versions 4.0 and 4.1 differ how they respond to the washers?

go-rebels Wrote:
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> Those washers look like they have red rust, so I’m
> sure they’re made of low carbon steel. They may h
> ave had a thin shiny zinc chromate plating, or a h
> eavier zinc dip but it looks like that’s been cons
> umed through corrosion. I’ve never seen a solid z
> inc washer.
>
> Do they stick to a magnet?
>
> Do versions 4.0 and 4.1 differ how they respond to
> the washers?

Washers are nonferrous.
Magnet doesn't stick to them.
You should see the color of this soil where they are located.





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I see that solid zinc washers are used in marine applications, but they are 3/8" thick minimum. I wonder what yours are made of.

Do you have an eTrac or CTX that you might be able to test and get a 2-coordinate measurement?

go-rebels Wrote:
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> I see that solid zinc washers are used in marine a
> pplications, but they are 3/8" thick minimum. I w
> onder what yours are made of.
>
> Do you have an eTrac or CTX that you might be able
> to test and get a 2-coordinate measurement?


They read 86 using 28.khz on HF coil- it has no normalization.
I don't have CTX or Etrac anymore. Right now anyway.
If my memory serves me correctly they read low 30s conductive on CTX.
I wished they had put nails in the site instead of these washers.
They didn't want anyone metal,detecting it. And they did some excavation on private land as well as government t land. Put washers wherever they dug or near the area.
I have been thinking.
The small bit I found back in the summer. It may have fell through their sifting box.
Can't prove. I have a book on the actual archeological dig. And it mentions how big their mesh was.





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Who ever it was that put the washers should be fined for littering ! Especially on government land that is BS. Government land is all of ours and it should be used and taken car of. The government does more damage on our public land than anyone. I know how its managed because my homestead is in the middle of 14,000 acres of national forest.

Today's V4.1 talk.

Used 11" LF coil exclusively.

I did no comparisons to other version, even other coil sizes, or the HF coils.

I can say with 100% certainty that V4.1 has indeed helped 11" LF coil just like it has the 9" LF coil.

You gotta hear this. Remember I have been running Deus for a while now, loads of hours.

Today I dug my shoddiest signals ever using a Deus and was finding nonferrous targets, even coin sized while using 11" LF coil .

Now how was I able to do this?
If I told folks V4.1 actually gives Deus another way to discriminate, would you believe me??

Well, here's the deal.
I get these signals today.
Before I go any further, if folks will notice, all previous things I have said in this thread,,all nonferrous located previously was using round HF coil but one find.

So today I took the 11" coil uaing V4.1 to a pouned site. Site has seen round HF coil and elliptical too.

Anyway I hunted using ground sensitivity setting 6, detector running at ground to maybe one point above using manual GB.

In this one portion of site, I get 4 hits. Not really hits, but very lighthearted broken signals. "These signals" (before yesterday and today using Deus and any previous versions) I would usually attribute to nail or iron, maybe deeper nail.
So I am listening real careful wearing full headphones.
Crappy crappy signal.
But when I went from level 6 ground sensitivty to 10 signals either disappeared or got worse.

Sure enough all these crappy signals were indeed nonferrous.
Will post a pic.

If I would have been running V4 and the 11" coil today, my best guess only 2 of these would have been found if I approached from the right direction.
The bigger piece elongated and the bigger pice of lead.


Now, here is something I am noticing, and your mileage may vary, this could be somewhat dependent on soil minerlization levels. It is not foolproof, but I like what I seen when I dug a few verfiers.

So, a tip maybe here for folks.

You get a crappy signal running ground sensitivty 5-7 and it gets worse when you go to level 10= dig.

You get a crappy signal running ground sensitivty 5-7 and it gets better going to level 10= odds are it is iron. Or if signal stays the some quality wise likely iron.

I wished I would have had an Equinox today and would have knew enough as far as squeezing all the performance out of it. These 4 targets defintiely would have been good to see how the Equinox fairs against Deus 11" to 11" coil.

Again Kudos to XP for V4.1.
I like it!!!!!!

This will be my last post here as far as the subject of V4.1. Unless I see some thing else significant to share. I will answer any questions folks have.



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Great info - thank you.

PhDtector Wrote:
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> Great info - thank you.


You are welcome.
Btw hunted in the wild yesterday using 9" LF coil.
Version 4.1 is definitely for real.
5 of my find's found I rate as "I wouldn't have dug using V4.0. Some coin sized too.
When Deus makes noise--- all I can say is study up DON'T dismiss too quick.
Any noise, static to barely heard audio.
I was wearing full headphones yesterday too.
Folks get that audio respomse turned up and get your headphone volume turned up.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/22/2018 03:40PM by Sod-buster.

Video talking about Version 4.1 and the new ground sensitivity setting.
Mr Blackwell -UK


[m.youtube.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/12/2018 04:45PM by Sod-buster.

Sod-Buster, using V4.1, Do you like the 9" LF coil, or the 11" LF coil ? Do you think the High F. coils dose much better than the low F. coils. Thanks for all your help on the Deus, it sure takes a lot of testing to get the best out of it. Thanks again flintstone

Flintstone Wrote:
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> Sod-Buster, using V4.1, Do you like the 9" LF coil
> , or the 11" LF coil ? Do you think the High F. co
> ils dose much better than the low F. coils. Thanks
> for all your help on the Deus, it sure takes a lot
> of testing to get the best out of it. Thanks again
> flintstone


Both HF coils have capability when set up right, to out hunt (see nomferrous) better or see targets at all vs use of LF coils.
Me saying this sure doesn't mean LF coil use should be snubbed or looked down upon.

Version 4.1 has moved LF coil goal post closer to HF coils performance in some facets, but they still lag behind.

Also matters what type of sites one hunts, ground mineralization levels and what type of targets a user is interested in finding.

One HF coil type(size) can't do all things the other can and vice versa.



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Diggs4ever Wrote:
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> Sod-buster Wrote:
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> > Alright
> > I will start here with info.
> ]
>
> Thank you for all the great info. You helped this
> guy out


You are welcome.
I am at odds at what to do as far as Equinox.
Don't know if folks here want to here from me on it.

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Diggs4ever Wrote:
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> I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the equinox.
> your writeups are priceless and truly help out a v
> ast amount of people including myself.

Sodbuster your writing is hardly "priceless" , it actually reads something like you're typing out a rap tune , but you're good for an actual comparison with other machines where you're also trying to honestly get the best out of all of them. Knock our socks off ,,,,,,, at least we won't be expected to waste a half an hour being shown that the Equinox is as good as a $190 Bounty Hunter.

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shoveler Wrote:
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> Sodbuster your writing is hardly "priceless" , it
> actually reads something like you're typing out a
> rap tune , but you're good for an actual compariso
> n with other machines where you're also trying to
> honestly get the best out of all of them. Knock ou
> r socks off ,,,,,,, at least we won't be expected
> to waste a half an hour being shown that the Equin
> ox is as good as a $190 Bounty Hunter.


My original reponse here-unworthy
I want to apologize to shoveler.
He sent me a message and I took his comments all wrong.



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