Opinions please!!!!

With these new detectors coming to market (plus the ones we already have).---Where does that leave the XP Deus in all this?----Is it still in "the running"?------I know it is still popular across the pond--but what about the U.S. now-a-days?-----What's the best Deus version & coil(s) for our mineralized iron sites (relics & coins)?-----It sure would make a nice traveling detector in my R.V. if the performance is there, got a nice 5 yr. transferable warranty also.----There's some questions for yah--go easy on me, I'm an ole man!-----I think Jim TN needs one & maybe I do to! --------Thanks guys.------------Del

I just got a deus and really really like it.. no plans on getting an equinox ..just so many things to like about it. My thoughts are with the deus being upgradable and new coils just came out it's still a top performer ...

I heard a rumor that the Deus won't hit coins on edge but one way?
Not a good four way hit? Don't know if it's true but heard a couple People say that?



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I know I have never swung an Equinox, but I have logged many hrs. with a Deus and I have a few opinions. First I will flat out say that the Equinox is not going to make your old sites new. It may find you a target or two the Deus missed, but then you just might find them with the Deus. From the videos I have observed the Nox is no better at target ID than the Deus. The Deus is deep enough for me....my dirt is pretty much just normal dirt. I like salt water hunting and that is where the Nox becomes very interesting to me. It isn't because of what it offers, but more of what the other salt water detectors didn't offer. The Excal and CZ weigh a ton. They cost more and the Excal is a fragile piece of crap that needs more nurturing than a 3 month baby. All just my opinions and anyone that disagrees will not upset me. Yeah on land the Nox can hunt with the big dogs, but so can the Deus.

Del, any idea on how good the Deus is for tot lots? HH jim tn

World class iron sifter Del (that's what it's made for/excels at). Can be set to site conditions as it's very versatile.

Deep too if you know how to set it up for depth.

D&P-OR Wrote:
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> With these new detectors coming to market (plus th
> e ones we already have).---Where does that leave t
> he XP Deus in all this?----Is it still in "the run
> ning"?------I know it is still popular across the
> pond--but what about the U.S. now-a-days?-----What
> 's the best Deus version & coil(s) for our mineral
> ized iron sites (relics & coins)?-----It sure woul
> d make a nice traveling detector in my R.V. if the
> performance is there, got a nice 5 yr. transferabl
> e warranty also.----There's some questions for yah
> --go easy on me, I'm an ole man!-----I think Jim
> TN needs one & maybe I do to! --------Thank
> s guys.------------Del


Well I have tons of hours on Deus.
In 4 bar ground will run circles around a lot of other detectors.
In mild ground deeper than Etrac and CTX.

Coil sizes is where you will have your trouble unless you buy a few.

Tot lot King is the elliptical HF coil for Deus. Can sniff out gold and smaller nonferrous.

Elliptical HF is also IMO in bad ground the leader(depth wise) on dime size nonferrous especially higher conductors.

Deus can be great in modern trash- key is running 4 or 8 kHz.

Version 4.1 the one I recommend.

9" LF coil is stellar performer in sites with iron.
11" LF coil will get you around another 1" of depth, best case scenario 2" depth.

Detector does chirp, but using HF elliptical scary quiet.

Round HF coil has advantage on both 9" LF and 11" LF coils p, but even it can't see see things the elliptical HF coil can.

HF coils do NOT allow for VDI normalization, unlike the LF coils.

I have zero experience with the bigger 11x13" LF coil.

I have had zero provlems with my units, have seen few problems had by other folks- I've been watching closely since 2014.

Lots of ways to run and be successful. But some target scenarios will only be gotten with certain settings setups, to include disc setting/freq.

11" LF coil use, coil makes detector slightly nose heavy.
9" LF coil feels good.
9" round HF balances even better than 9" LF coil due to battery location in stem.

So where does Deus stack up with all that is a available.
I can't answer right now.
Give me a few days weather permitting and I can hopefully answer better- cause Nox has entered into equation as of late.

If folks do buy Deus, for any warranty work you will need purchase receipt.
Registering your unit with Xp using their site won't get you warranty work done for free.

Headphones.
WS-5 I Don't like for 2 reasons.
Ear cups- folks have had trouble with them- I sold mine so quick I didn't use much.
Tones are too muffled for good iron work.
Ws-4 sound better for good iron work, and are very good to wear in hot weather.
Plus the module off of WA-4 can be removed and placed on aftermarket headphones.
There is a brand called call detecticks(sp) that get rave reviews. I have the Vance headphones- they are tight fitting even for folks with smaller heads. I sprung mine to make fit better.

Remote- don't buy Deus without.

Forgot one thing.
The grey ghost Deus compatible headphones- they sound muffled like the ws5 do. I gave mine away (tell you anything)



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I would throw a Fisher F44 in that RV and use your savings to pay your gas.

Del....... i dont think the EQ is going to be earth shattering for dirt digging. Just a lot of great machines out there. More and more hitting the market that learned from others mistakes. The Deus keep evolving.

Here are ways in which European detecting differs from US detecting (my opinions only based on some actual experience in Scandinavia and many years of following UK and European forums):

There are WAY more interesting targets (this is a “duh” conclusion - more than 2000 years of metal using)

U.S. style focus of tight ID of specific coins mostly doesn’t exist (coinage had changed MUCH more frequently and radically in Europe - we have had essentially the same coinage for more than 100 years)

Not much “low-end” Christmas/birthday present level detector participation (hobbyists who get into detecting typical “buy-in” at mid or high performance level)

Much less “playing with” detectors - air testing, test gardens, etc (this may be a result of the vastly greater opportunities to get out and find historically relevant finds)

Less “detector churn” most hunters own a single machine and don’t readily change (XP caused a revolution in Detector choice - causing a big replacement cycle).

Beach detecting is relatively less popular (a high percentage of users consider themselves historians more than “hunters”)

What conclusion (if any) to draw from this?

Rick Kempf
Gold Canyon AZ- where there is no gold

Rick........ VERY interesting viewpoint......... and probably spot-on.

Jim for tot lots....grab an inexpensive Tesoro Compadre....you don't shoots squirrels with a high power rifle.

Dan, ha, guess you are probably right. But, here in Tn we have some mighty powerful tot lots. HH jim tn

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> Dan, ha, guess you are probably right. But, here i
> n Tn we have some mighty powerful tot lots. HH
> jim tn


Hey Jim-----I wasn't ignoring you---just got my mind going in a different direction.----We really like the F-19 for tot lots, my wife does anyway.----She usually makes me hunt the grass around them & "takes dibs" on the tot lots.------------Del

Thanks for the responses guys---good stuff!-----------Del

I was kind of just playing with ya, Del, I'm not much of a tot lot hunter. Don't get to many Seated's and Barber's in em. HH jim tn

jim tn Wrote:
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> I was kind of just playing with ya, Del, I'm not m
> uch of a tot lot hunter. Don't get to many Seated'
> s and Barber's in em. HH jim tn


Get loads & loads & loads of gold in 'em though Jim!---YEAH, RIGHT

Well I have tons of hours on Deus.
In 4 bar ground will run circles around a lot of other detectors.
In mild ground deeper than Etrac and CTX

I would have to see this...Seen a lot of Deus's in action....none can touch the Etrac for depth!
In mild ground the E-trac would be insane!

mascard1 Wrote:
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> Well I have tons of hours on Deus.
> In 4 bar ground will run circles around a lot of o
> ther detectors.
> In mild ground deeper than Etrac and CTX
>
> I would have to see this...Seen a lot of Deus's in
> action....none can touch the Etrac for depth!
> In mild ground the E-trac would be insane!


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In real mild ground there are a few that can be deeper (give tone) vs fbs types.

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Aka Signum MFD I hear is deeper and not just in mild ground.

Yeah, I have nothing against Etrac. Hall a fame detector.

Using the other vlfs that can be deeper, odds are you won't know what you are digging though, except for nonferrous generally.

Detech Chaser in mild ground could find a deep dime and Etrac with stock coil might not even whiff. Like approaching 13" deep.
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> > In mild ground the E-trac would be insane!
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> you won't know what you are digging though, except
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> e and Etrac with stock coil might not even whiff.
> Like approaching 13" deep.
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I guess it just depends on how well you know machine........I saw Capt. FI....Dig some crazy deep stuff with the Explorer Se

mascard1 Wrote:
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> Well I have tons of hours on Deus.
> In 4 bar ground will run circles around a lot of o
> ther detectors.
> In mild ground deeper than Etrac and CTX
>
> I would have to see this...Seen a lot of Deus's in
> action....none can touch the Etrac for depth!
> In mild ground the E-trac would be insane!

Yep Me too.

Deus is a great machine. Though deep... beyond 8 inches VDI goes out in my soil. Etrac will have vdi and tone to 10 on a silver dime (in clean soil with h little trash)
I’m at US silvers this year 15 have been with the Etrac and 1 with the deus. If that tells you anything. Just me.. Etrac slams silver.

XP Deus
Minelab Etrac
Minelab Equinox 800
Garrett Carrot
22 silvers, 2 silver rings, 1 Gold Ring -YTD 2018


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