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Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??

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Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 22, 2018 06:55PM
I use the AT GOLD ,XP DEUS and EQUINOX 800 in this demo. I use gold and silver in this demo of multi IQ tech verse single freq vlf detectors. It doesn't matter what brand of detector you use if its a single vlf detector this video is relevant for you.multi IQ
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 22, 2018 07:13PM
If you can't considerately take two minutes to summarize the content of your video in text instead of expecting someone to spend 17 minutes of their time to listen to you ramble on , I doubt it's "relevant" to me , especially when it's just another redundant question with no definitive answer.
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 22, 2018 07:42PM
Aside as to how the Nox performs, 2 of the dealers i know have told me that they have barely sold any other brands since the Nox came out, for them it has obsoleted much of their stock of non minelab detectors.
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 22, 2018 08:19PM
shoveler Wrote:
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> If you can't considerately take two minutes to sum
> marize the content of your video in text instead o
> f expecting someone to spend 17 minutes of their t
> ime to listen to you ramble on , I doubt it's "rel
> evant" to me , especially when it's just another r
> edundant question with no definitive answer.
DONT WATCH IT THEN ! I spend hours of my time testing and shooting and editing ....



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/22/2018 08:20PM by calabash digger.
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 22, 2018 08:22PM
Calabash you should should just ask yourself if you feel any other machine will find you something that the Nox won't see and if the case is no? Sell all your other machines.
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 22, 2018 08:27PM
Its not a matter of feelings, to much of that going on these days. Can I find something that the AT GOLD and Deus will hit that the Nox will not? NO ,not yet. Can I find in test things the Nox will hit that the Deus and AT Gold will not hit? yes. F75 just got here a few minutes ago.....
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 22, 2018 09:29PM
I will give you a 100 for that AT-GOLD since it won't get the sliver of gold between the nails. I think you used a dime in your first test if I'm not mistaken.
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 22, 2018 09:45PM
In my test the coins are on edge between deck boards with 3 nails per deck board tell me why in my test that the AT-GOLD picks up the nickel and the dime?
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Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 22, 2018 10:04PM
calabash digger Wrote:
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> Its not a matter of feelings, to much of that goin
> g on these days. Can I find something that the AT
> GOLD and Deus will hit that the Nox will not? NO ,
> not yet. Can I find in test things the Nox will hi
> t that the Deus and AT Gold will not hit? yes. F75
> just got here a few minutes ago.....


Very good questions! Thank you so much for all your efforts!
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 22, 2018 10:58PM
The Equinox is still a new machine and as such it has the curiosity of many especially since its from Minelab. However it will not obsolete single frequency machines as there will be certain machines that might do better in certain areas or sites than the Equinox. The Equinox is the first machine to have selectable multiple frequencies which is a big plus and a wonderful option. Minelab has the money to do a lot of things other companies may take longer to do and we can expect to see great things to come from Minelab in the future.
TH
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 22, 2018 11:04PM
calabash digger Wrote:
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> shoveler Wrote:
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> -----
> > If you can't considerately take two minutes to s
> um
> > marize the content of your video in text instead
> o
> > f expecting someone to spend 17 minutes of their
> t
> > ime to listen to you ramble on , I doubt it's "r
> el
> > evant" to me , especially when it's just another
> r
> > edundant question with no definitive answer.
> DONT WATCH IT THEN ! I spend hours of my time test
> ing and shooting and editing ....

Which is what makes it such a waste when you could take 10 minutes and type up a summary of pertinent information that could be read in 3 minutes and no one would be expected to waste their time watching you waste your time for a measly few debatable observations.
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 22, 2018 11:06PM
The Nox is but an inanimate object--derision isn't directed at an inanimate object.
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 22, 2018 11:18PM
calabash digger Wrote:
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> shoveler Wrote:
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> -----
> > If you can't considerately take two minutes to s
> um
> > marize the content of your video in text instead
> o
> > f expecting someone to spend 17 minutes of their
> t
> > ime to listen to you ramble on , I doubt it's "r
> el
> > evant" to me , especially when it's just another
> r
> > edundant question with no definitive answer.
> DONT WATCH IT THEN ! I spend hours of my time test
> ing and shooting and editing ....

+1
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 22, 2018 11:37PM
Shoveler if he did not show vids and just typed up a summary then everyone would complain that he made it all up.. just don't watch it or watch the last few minutes. For Pete's sake it's only a few minutes.. obviously you ARE very interested in HIS conclusion that we all know takes alot of time to do, and we all appreciate by the way, then just take a few minutes and listen to it while your on the John, or driving (listen don't watch) or whatever.
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 22, 2018 11:53PM
I take it Shoveler does not watch movies only reads the reviews. You can't please everyone that's for sure. I've enjoyed the videos CD. Thanks for the time and effort you clearly invested and shared with us.

Past(or)Tom
Using a Legend, a Deus 2, an Equinox 800, a Tarsacci MDT 8000, & a few others...
with my beloved, fading Corgi, Sadie
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 23, 2018 12:02AM
I think Minelab should cut You a check if not already.
You pumping up their sales.
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 23, 2018 12:16AM
basstrackerman Wrote:
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> Shoveler if he did not show vids and just typed u
> p a summary then everyone would complain that he m
> ade it all up.. just don't watch it or watch the l
> ast few minutes. For Pete's sake it's only a few
> minutes.. obviously you ARE very interested in HIS
> conclusion that we all know takes alot of time to
> do, and we all appreciate by the way, then just ta
> ke a few minutes and listen to it while your on th
> e John, or driving (listen don't watch) or whateve
> r.

When the conclusion is foregone there is no need to waste the time.
One need not test the merchandise to elude the pimpwinking smiley



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Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 23, 2018 12:26AM
I just want to detect and have fun.
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 23, 2018 12:26AM
Pasttom Wrote:
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> I take it Shoveler does not watch movies only read
> s the reviews. You can't please everyone that's f
> or sure. I've enjoyed the videos CD. Thanks for
> the time and effort you clearly invested and share
> d with us.


Agreed.

Thank you calabash digger for all of this fine work.
Shoveler shouldn't get his coil all puckered up and just watch the ding dang video.


Up to my ____ in Pulltabs, Grant
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 23, 2018 01:02AM
Don't work for minelab. All the guys hating above and stating what it will do or wont do I have a question for you guys. How many of you guys actually have the machine?? Just saying what you guys got a crystal ball or something. I mean think about it the detector can see targets that single vlfs cant see ...from one end of the conductive scale to the other. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that s a great leap forward for detectors... Do you guys understand how different freqs react to different conductive type targets??? Because if you did what I'm telling you would be a NO BRAINER.. Equinox is running from 5 kh to 40 at the same time.... it will see stuff that a f75 at 15 kh or whatever it runs at cant. Or a AT PRO. MX SPORT and the list goes on and on....because their stuck at one operating freq and that can not cover the whole spectrum of conductive targets..What I'm talking about is not hype its A SCIENTIFIC PROVEN FACT...You guys can throw all the eggs you want but it aint gonna change the fact that what I'm showing and telling you is TRUE!
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 23, 2018 01:04AM
shoveler Wrote:
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> If you can't considerately take two minutes to sum
> marize the content of your video in text instead o
> f expecting someone to spend 17 minutes of their t
> ime to listen to you ramble on , I doubt it's "rel
> evant" to me , especially when it's just another r
> edundant question with no definitive answer.


go troll someone else pal!
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 23, 2018 01:21AM
Your doing good work Calabash..
Some people are just blinded by their own emotions and biases..
It can be very powerful to those who are unaware..

Bryan
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 23, 2018 02:07AM
Thanks for the video. The Deus seems to hit better with the right frequency selected still, not by miles though. Can you select a single frequency with the Minelab and make it better for a specific type of conductivity? If you plan only to hunt for one type like coins only which is better? It can really only obsolete a single frequency machine if it can hit 100 percent as good or better while still getting the opposite conductive type targets.
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 23, 2018 02:13AM
The Nox hit the targets better than the Deus in those test I did it might be that your not used to the NOX audio. Its a milder audio than the deus..... Multi IQ works better on the Nox than single freqs do. Knowing that multi freq works best there would never be a reason just to hunt in a single freq unless emi or something causes you to have to. That multi freq is unmasking something very special...



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Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 23, 2018 09:56AM
It may not obsolete single freq.... in fact i believe the manual even says it wont in some cases. However, it sure narrows the choice on which to grab based on where you intend to hunt that day. It really can be several machines in one reducing the cost you have to pay having several machines around. Even second best..... sure aint bad when you most likely are comparing it to more expensive detectors...... like the CTX. I see a lot of people buying this machine to detect area they wouldnt before just because they didnt want to buy another machine..... it may not have obsoleted the BEST of um, but it sure hurt sales.
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 23, 2018 01:09PM
I'm far from an expert. But, these videos seem very convincing to me. It seems to work better overall than the rest of the machines.

Seth C.

Finger lakes region of New York State

No matter where you go, there you are!
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 23, 2018 01:47PM
beastdig Wrote:
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> Thanks for the video. The Deus seems to hit bette
> r with the right frequency selected still, not by
> miles though. Can you select a single frequency w
> ith the Minelab and make it better for a specific
> type of conductivity? If you plan only to hunt fo
> r one type like coins only which is better? It ca
> n really only obsolete a single frequency machine
> if it can hit 100 percent as good or better while
> still getting the opposite conductive type targets
> .

Yes, you can select a single freq (four on the 800) to " make it better for a specific type of conductivity". As to which freq? That, of course, is up to you. The whole point of multi freq is that it uses different freq all at the same time so that you don't have to guess which is best for that particular condition. AND, not only select-able single frequencies but select-able multi frequency as well that are weighted for different size and conductivity targets.
To make something obsolete, the new product just has to be a more logical choice than the old product. It doesn't have to do it 100% as good or better (I haven't found anything that the Nox doesn't do 100% as good or better yet). It's like Dew said," it narrows the choice on which to grab based on where you intend to hunt that day". When the choice becomes so narrow that you only grab the one machine hunt after hunt because it does everything any of your other machines can do and more due to it's versatility and now you don't have to haul three machines or three coils for the same machine in to the field to do the job...your other machines gather dust and become obsolete. Just look at the used detector market since the Equinox was announced. It seems that many operators feel that their old machines have, indeed, become obsolete and don't want them cluttering up their closets.


Dean
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 23, 2018 03:00PM
not in the UK as theyre practically unobtainable
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 23, 2018 04:30PM
bado1 Wrote:
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> Yes, you can select a single freq (four on the 800
> ) to " make it better for a specific type of condu
> ctivity". --- snip ---
> Dean

If I'm not mistaken, you can select from 5 frequencies on the 800 (5,10,15,20,40kHz)...
Re: Has the Equinox made all single vlf machines obsolete??
March 23, 2018 05:21PM
TexHunter Wrote:
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> > Yes, you can select a single freq (four on the 8
> 00
> > ) to " make it better for a specific type of con
> du
> > ctivity". --- snip ---
> > Dean
>
> If I'm not mistaken, you can select from 5 frequen
> cies on the 800 (5,10,15,20,40kHz)...

You are correct!

Dean