Minelab Nox vs Makro Multi-Kruzer

tabman Wrote:
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> tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> So that's how you take a Nox apart to replace a br
> oken screen, jack, key pad, speaker etc.. Putting
> it all back together again and getting it watertig
> ht is going to be a even bigger challenge. Thanks
> for sharing.
>
> tabman

Perhaps a name change-------Humpty Dumpty ??



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/17/2018 05:44PM by doc holiday.

doc holiday Wrote:
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> > So that's how you take a Nox apart to replace a
> br
> > oken screen, jack, key pad, speaker etc.. Puttin
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> > it all back together again and getting it watert
> ig
> > ht is going to be a even bigger challenge. Thank
> s
> > for sharing.
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> > tabman
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> Perhaps a name change-------Humpty Dumpty ??


I think folks here have missed something.
Waterproof detectors.
In the past how small were the control heads?
The Nox is small.
So trying to waterproof a Nox with actual seals and nuts, bolts, screws. The seals would be smaller. And all the hardware if used would indeed contribute to more overall weight.
Plus which way of sealing is likely the best as far as being waterproof over time?
Maybe the jury here on Nox is still out. But the process used just might be better in the long run.

I really don’t care how myndetector comes apart (method used) as long as it suits me and is not a boat anchor.

This is really all we heard here before Nox was debuted. How heavy the Minelab’s were.
Now seems all the bitching is not the weight but how the unit is constructed.

Some of you folks should definitley go get engineering degrees. And put your applications in with Minelab.

Seems they (Minelab) are dammed either way they go.

Remember I for one have criticized Minelab over thier weighty units.
Not this time.

You CAN’T knock the price of Nox.
You CAN’T knock the performance of Nox for price paid.
You CAN’T knock the weight of the Nox.

If any detector makes the grade with all of the three times above =Stellar unit imo,

One last thing here.
Maybe Apple should be looking at the Equinox control.
Imagine if their cellphones were constructed like Nox.
Sure would save a lot of lost phones or repairs for folks. Waterlogged!!



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 08/17/2018 06:15PM by tnsharpshooter.

Tnss , you are right , you are missing the entire point of the OP and once again trying to interject a mountain of superfluous crap to avoid addressing the issue,,,WHY? , just to get in the last word?
Why don't you solve the entire question/curiosity behind the OP and use your alleged inside track with Minelab and come back with a definitive verifiable answer?
I even provided the e-mail contact with the N.A. Business Development Director for you to contact. Tell her you are a self proclaimed , "professional detectorist" who lives in the alternate reality of internet metal detecting forums and need these answers in order to defend the poor defenseless Minelab from curious customers.

Out here in the West where political correctness is dying a rapid death we would say the time has come for you to put up or shut up.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/17/2018 06:55PM by shoveler.

Sooooo are we saying the Nox can't be Noxed Up??

Jesussssssss, if you can't afford to take the risk that you may not be able to have a Nox repaired, just don't buy the fluffing detector, my wife moans less than you's girls lol

ghound Wrote:
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> Jesussssssss, if you can't afford to take the risk that you may not be able to have a Nox repaired, just don't buy the fluffing detector, my wife moans less than you's girls lol

True that, and ditto on the wife haha

ghound Wrote:
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> Jesussssssss, if you can't afford to take the risk
> that you may not be able to have a Nox repaired, j
> ust don't buy the fluffing detector, my wife moans
> less than you's girls lol

Winner winner, chicken dinner! Where's the dang "like" button?

A lot of ducking and dodging but still no answer. If it's no big deal why won't Minelab say what the cost is going to be?

tabman

I have had experience with ML's 'support'.. Try getting an excal repaired.. or a sword.. Even those of us who have early excal 11's.. They will not help at all..

I will admit that ML has done a lot of innovation.. and their technology is top notch ; the best?? meh ! ..maybe.. but there are a lot of other great companies
as well.. But as to ML.. engineering is fabulous, research .. the same.. performance...I love it!! Construction.. sucks.. as does repair..

So it is a balancing act.. take care of the machine and you will have a great time.. Fail to do so,,,It is a choice you may regret

Micheal

tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> Shoveler.
> Another conspiracy post I see.
>
> Minelab says on their site they will support their
> products for so long after product is discontinued
> .
>
> They haven’t ever i don’t think went into detail h
> ow they will “exactly” provide support (repair act
> ions) on any of their models.
>
> And I don’t think a lot of other manufacturers hav
> e either.
>
> Maybe folks here who have indeed had out of warran
> ty or self inflicted damage corrected by Minelab o
> n Etrac and CTX would weigh in here on actual out
> of pocket cost.
> This info I think would indeed help.
>
> Fifty percent cost of new Equinox for actual repai
> r out of warranty or self inflicted damage to cont
> rol head is peanuts imo.
> I don’t know what the actual true will be.
> And shipping costs will obviously be had by the ow
> ner of detector.
>
> Bottom line.
> I think Equinox thus far has a pretty good track r
> ecord for faults and leaks.
> Folks can choose to buy or not.
>
> I don’t know what it will cost to have my either o
> f Deus units repaired when it
> they come out of warranty.
> And I haven’t seen you posting about this either.
>
> Minelab is a major detector manufacturer.
> There are others too.
> And we should I think lend them some respect.
> I don’t think Minelab’s goal is to screw folks.
> I get the idea you think it is.
>
> Cheers.

Daniel Tn Wrote:
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> Exactly. I just don't see the point in worrying so
> much over something based off of "what ifs", rumor
> s, and conspiracy theories. Bottom line...it's an
> electronic toy and a relatively cheap one compared
> to other adult hobbies you could get into. If you
> think $800 is expensive, you would have a stroke i
> f you knew how much I had in my archery tournament
> setup. If you broke any of that stuff, you were on
> your own and just had to scrap it and buy new. Ge
> t as much use and enjoyment out of it that you can
> til you wear it out or until it wears you out. Th
> ey aren't going to last forever and neither are yo
> u.


+1.

Thank God political correctness is dying a slow death...how can we speed it up? If this kind of speculation and resultant worry and fear is what occupies your thoughts....you should just stay in your parent's basement.

ghound hit it right on the head.

Dean



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/19/2018 02:56PM by bado1.

It looks like I struck a nerve by asking a simple question that no one knows the answer to. Bashing, name calling, ducking and dodging is not an answer. I'm guessing that Minelab is holding off answering the question as long as they can so it won't hurt sales. I wouldn't be asking this question if hadn't read somewhere that it was a disposable detector that can't be repaired. If that true how much is it going to cost to replace the control housing? Simple question.

tabman

$899 shipped!!---Just as well get a little humor in here!----Buy it & use it.---If it breaks, the kids didn't need that money no how!

D&P-OR Wrote:
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> $899 shipped!!---Just as well get a little humor in here!----Buy it & use it.---If it breaks, the kids didn't need that money no how!

Someone had a like new EQ600 on here for $500. @$500 with the remainder of an almost full 3 year warranty, there's almost zero risk. Buy it, use it, if it sucks, isn't your cup of tea, or whatever, fleabay it away, their easy to sell. In the mean time, you have three years (more or less) to figure out the enigma of Minelab's repair strategy. Their likely still working out the after warranty repair details, as like us, they have almost three years to think about it

Tabman,
You stated that ML is holding off on your answer. Did you call them yourself or are you waiting for an "internet answer" from someone else that is just speculating?
As was already stated a couple of times, " Nobody knows the answer to your question". Call ML with your hypothetical scenario until you get an answer then post it up.

Dean

Swinging a Kruzer and not missing an Equinox whatsoever. One main reason was the reputable customer service of Makro/Nokta vs. a lot of "well ML is in the States now and SUPPOSED to be getting better!"

Hope in one hand. Crap in the other. Now, tell me which weighs more.

Several years ago, a guy I know jabbed his digging tool into the screen of his CTX3030. Even though the machine was still under warranty, he fully expected to pay for the damage himself.

He personally dropped off the machine with Minelab, which I believe was in Downer's Grove, Illinois, at the time. Minelab repaired the machine at no charge and he was able to pick it up the same day or the next day.

bado1 Wrote:
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> Tabman,
> You stated that ML is holding off on your answer.
> Did you call them yourself or are you waiting for
> an "internet answer" from someone else that is jus
> t speculating?
> As was already stated a couple of times, " Nobody
> knows the answer to your question". Call ML with y
> our hypothetical scenario until you get an answer
> then post it up.
>
> Dean


This is where you biased fan boys continue to miss the point tabman brings to the table in his OP,,,,why do you assume it's hypothetical and why do you have to dismiss the issue in a condescending "what difference does it make" manner? No ones is worrying about it , I dumped my 800 early and don't have one. I have a friend who dumped his because he found himself in exactly the situation tabman brings up and after a month of unresponsiveness from Minelab just threw the sumbitch away because he was tired of getting the run around and corporate shuffle treatment from them. The last response he had from them was they had no parts , no prices , no process yet determined and were "working on it". He had to go fight fires in California and didn't have time to mess them anymore. What kind of POS corporation works like that!!?

That's the real world. If you don't think it deserves lip service call Minelab yourself and prove the issue is irrelavent.
Put up or shut up!!

shoveler Wrote:
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> bado1 Wrote:
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> > Tabman,
> > You stated that ML is holding off on your answer
> .
> > Did you call them yourself or are you waiting fo
> r
> > an "internet answer" from someone else that is j
> us
> > t speculating?
> > As was already stated a couple of times, " Nobod
> y
> > knows the answer to your question". Call ML with
> y
> > our hypothetical scenario until you get an answe
> r
> > then post it up.
> >
> > Dean
>
>
> This is where you biased fan boys continue to miss
> the point tabman brings to the table in his OP,,,,
> why do you assume it's hypothetical and why do you
> have to dismiss the issue in a condescending "what
> difference does it make" manner? No ones is worryi
> ng about it , I dumped my 800 early and don't have
> one. I have a friend who dumped his because he fou
> nd himself in exactly the situation tabman brings
> up and after a month of unresponsiveness from Mine
> lab just threw the sumbitch away because he was ti
> red of getting the run around and corporate shuffl
> e treatment from them. The last response he had fr
> om them was they had no parts , no prices , no pro
> cess yet determined and were "working on it". He h
> ad to go fight fires in California and didn't have
> time to mess them anymore. What kind of POS corpor
> ation works like that!!?
>
> That's the real world. If you don't think it deser
> ves lip service call Minelab yourself and prove th
> e issue is irrelavent.
> Put up or shut up!!

I'm not the one worried about it. I've had great service through ML for many years (not on the Nox...on their GPXs). Since I wasn't the one giving myself ulcers about a hypothetical scenario, why would I call them? Looks like TNSS took action for the OP (and everybody else). Not that it will make any difference for you anyway...you will just keep on bashing.

Dean

This VIDEO pretty much sums it up that the control housing isn't made to be serviced so I'll just have to wait until Minelab decides to release what it's going to charge to replace it. Like I said before Minelab isn't going to be in any big hurry to release that number. Until then I have a Minelab CTX 3030, Detech Smart Plus, Tesoro Mojave, Whites MXT Pro, Fisher F75DST, Makro Multi-Kruzer, Teknetics Omega V6, a modded Tesoro Cibola and the all mighty Deus to keep me occupied. I'm also looking for CZ5 or a CZ6a.

tabman

Dang Tabman, You have a whole fleet of Detectors! Ha.

Shots fired at the U.S. embassy in Turkey today.

They fought the guys - Embassy was closed anyway- Turkish public holiday.

Embassy is in Ankara, the capital - our detector friends are in the Istanbul area.

Rick Kempf
Gold Canyon AZ- where there is no gold