Deus HF Elliptical coil =

This HF coil, how can I say this.
Kicks butt.

With just 8 hours actual hunt time using, I can already by using in controlled sites, tell what is under the hood here is spectacular.
Folks may think they know the ferrous density in some of their sites. I still don't know exactly, but have a much better idea now.

Few pics of some finds. Couple hunts in busted hard sites.
First pic a site where I have made a pint to dig everything nonferrous.

The second pic is a hunt in an area with some modern trash.
This coil can hunt in sites with mixed history.
All I did was looked for the more challenged tonally, and some targets based dig on meter reading.
Gotta watch the old Deus meter with this HF coil on there,,,meter better in carpet of nails than one might think.



Nails were dug incidental to target recovery.
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Deus mounted with this elliptical coil when laying down on the ground, does not behave like it does with the round LF coils attached.

Detector will rollover most times I have layed down, even on leveler ground.
With coil left in " detecting" position.

Remote can take a beating here.

Man = what a hunt!

Pulltabs, bottle caps, nails, bits of scrap and some clad = whoo hoo!

Must of took some serious, knowledge, experience, research and time to find a place to produce mind blowing stuff like that

You missed the point.
A lot of this stuff I didn't detect in this patch (not big) before using a lot of other detectors/coill combs.

That nickel could have been a gold coin.
I have dug 1800s coins out of this site before.
Silver too.
Why I was.there, since it does have some modern trash.

Grow up.

Oh, you never dig junk right?

Sod-buster Wrote:
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> You missed the point.
> A lot of this stuff I didn't detect in this patch
> (not big) before using a lot of other detectors/co
> ill combs.
>
> That nickel could have been a gold coin.
> I have dug 1800s coins out of this site before.
> Silver too.
> Why I was.there, since it does have some modern tr
> ash.
>
> Grow up.
>
> Oh, you never dig junk right?


Think Wayne (MRH) IS GROWN UP AND EXPERIENCED enough to make some great finds.-----And yeah, he digs some junk in the process.----What's your point in asking that?

sog-buster on typical dig

pull tab - vintage - 1972

Deus in modern trash using HF coil.
Might sound like a bummer to some, right?

I did some hunting at an older house loaded with you name it this evening.

Made a few finds coin wise.
Just bascially seeing how this coil behaves,,meter, etc.

Deus and this small coil, it maybe doing something I've not seen.
Or doing more of it, hence I notice morseso.

Colocated nonferrous, tonally using this HF coil with some settings is stretching the tone quite a bit vs solo sitting say tab or even a coin.
If meter is averaging, a person might notice this stretched tone, and think colocated target.
Might find a goody if mission is limited digging.
I can hear this too with some coil height,,,maybe not monster height.
I don't have all my detectors at home presently, but did try CTX with colocated Coin and pull ring.
No real difference tone length over coloacted vs sole coin.

Interesting.
Might take a trained ear, but may come in handy.

LOL Wayne!!

Man what a great Show!!

Lance from Detectorist...

I think season 3 comes out later this year...

I died laughing when I saw lance standing there holding that pulltab in season One with eye loop being serious...

Keith

“I don't care that they stole my idea . . I care that they don't have any of their own”
-Nikola Tesla

Another hunt.

This hunt done at old fort site. In operation 1792-1799 approx.
After university excavated this site back in 1989-92 they when finished got cute and spread zinc washers all over.

Back then, according to brother of one of the professors on the dig back then, no metal detectors were used.
They used sifting boxes and a backhoe to dig actual fort up.

Well, the owner had just cut, raked and rolled the hay, so I might as well give the HF coil a run here.
Have been in here before and thought there were 2 different style washers the folks spread.

My goal was to try and go in, and dig only signals that gave no ID, thinking I could dodge most of these nuisance washers.

So off I went.
Settings used.
Ground balance to actual ground reading.
5 ticks in mineral Stengel meter checked in 4 different places.
Reactivy 2.5
Sens 92
Freq 28.8 kHz
Audio report 5,, badk phone volume =6
Full tones 0 disc,

I could hear the washers reporting (loud) and yes see ID in the window.
But eventually did get a few targets here with no ID, and Volume of tone provided indicated maybe deeper target.

Wound up with 3 small flat buttons, one piece of lead and a couple musket balls.

I did dig 3 of the washers.
I will report on these here in more detail, because it shows some performance info with this coil I think.
One of the washers was dug, giving no ID, very smooth signal, crystal clear.
Zinc washer btw is same diameter as us penny.

This zinc washer was at a measured Garrett propinter length deep.
I dug 2 more of the washers, signals on these gave no ID.
Upon recovering both of thes washers, I Missed both when digging.
Both of these washers were on edge at approx 6-6.5" deep.
They gave a good signal smooth too.

This coil runs extraordinary smooth.
Has some horsepower too for depth in my soil.

I would almost make a bet right now,,,XP has learned something as far as emi/noise in their coil manufacture.
I think right now they could make a LF coil at least almost as quiet as this elliptical HF coil.

I have a lot of backtracking to do, and some new sites lined up to hunt once the frost comes and gets rids of the weeds.
Cheers.

All we got from the above is:

blah blah blah fort somewhere blah blah blah

blah blah blah my settings blah blah blah

blah blah blah washers everywhere blah blah blah

blah blah blah piece of lead & flat button blah blah blah

blah blah blah coil this that & this blah blah blah

blah blah blah more meaningless garble blah blah blah

the end

Just my perspective on the machine and coil.

The more perspective the better.
Need more than one here.

I have talked to quite a few folks long distance, seems they are enjoying reading what I have to say here and other places.

Go figure.

Two hunts today.
One this morning.
One this afternoon.
Stellar find found this afternoon.
For me anyways.
Commentary and pics coming.

Another hunt this morning.
Church site, were I found the worn 1916 (worn so much I can't see if it has mint mark or not )with Impact detector smallest coil.
Hard busted site.
Didn't hunt all, just the areas I thought based on past hunts using a mulitude of detectors to be challenged moreso by iron.
Modern trash is present too.

A very good hunt considering.
A couple coppers and a couple silvers.

One junk target.
It was coming in at 90.
Ran 28.8 kHz
Reactivty 2.5
Sens 93
Full tones 0 disc audio report 5
GB to actual ground value.
All coins dug yielded TID above 90.
All were within the 6.5-7.5" depth range.
This coil, I find myself not having to slow down very much and still the detector locks on exceptionally well.
Now, a person will have to recheck a few targets, like the ones that pop in 85-90, they sound good tone wise, just those babies likely will be aluminum cap, can be pull ring with tab wrapped around.
Found this out day before yesterday hunting a nightmare site with modern trash.


Now this afternoon.
I went back to the fort area I mentioned earlier.
I got to thinking, what better test bed, these washers being buried for what 25 plus years.

So I go in there and try to just listen, I wasn't concerned with the clearer no brainer hits tone wise.
Rather the targets that provided something more whacky less textbook sounding.
Glad I did this.
This coil folks is for real.
It is really unmasking in my dirt both from a soil perspective as well as when nonferrous objects are near ferrous objects.
Deep too.

There were 3 different hits, just listening and applying old school Deus (my LF coil knowledge and experience) Inwould have walked big time.
Yep the washers were down there alright.

Every single time I dug and found a deeper washer on edge, signal presented very broad,,like what can happen using 9" LF coil when actually over iron.
Tone does get compromised somewhat sometimes too.
Also and here is the strange part.
I dug quite a few nonferrous targets, with the small coil.
Imwould locate, criss cross, even use pinpoint.
And many times would have to dig a hole 2.5 times as wide as the coil is wide.

Don't know what's happening, but like what I see.

Also what Inwanted to do is compare on some targets providing no ID running 0 disc and full tones, to see what if anything the gold field would do with ID.
Bascially IMO no gains here period that I could see at depth.
Next I checked 15 different targets, comparing ID in disc to gold field (same Reactivty settings),, here most times gold field program ID around 5-6 points higher on average.
There were a few that matched pretty much.

After staying in the polluted washer area, I started moving away from excavated area around 120 ft away.

Dug a brass hinge with a big hunk of iron virtually on top of. It came out of hole first.
This hinge may be part of fort.

Then dug a musket ball, this musket ball signal was garbage sounding but not all the way iron tone.
Flipped the plug with about 3" dirt intact, swept plug and got hard iron fault meter reading 6, kick the plug and bingo a good clean signal,.
Never could after ball removal hear any iron whatsoever in plug or hole.
I attribute to soil masking.
Btw this field was fertilized back in late March.
I dug a buckle, flat button, real small pice of nonferrous something. This small find would have easily escaped me without my earlier training in and around the washers.

Then there is the cut silver.
This thing is super thin, not as thick or as big as one previous 1bit I found around 5 years ago.
Does have a Roman numeral 2 on it though.
I am thinking this was cut not off of Spanish dollar but a smaller denomination coin.
I am old coin ignorant.

The cut bit gave a weak signal, was at depth wise at least 6" could have been as deep as 7" deep,
No iron noted around,

A very good day of learning for me today with this HF coil.
Some of the nails, were dug giving me woe thing to investigate,, and the reason was I was pushing the Deus to try to get a baseline of sorts in my old nogging.
Remember this area busted hard using other detectors, especially Deus 9" and 11" coils.

c

Here is a pic with dime in pic for scale.
A 2 bit bigger, than a supposedly 1 bit, then the whatever I found today.
Very thin find, lot thinner than a us clad dime.
Airtest btw uaing 28.8khz at 85.




Edited 8 time(s). Last edit at 08/27/2017 01:00AM by Sod-buster.

St. Liberty quarter is a junk drawer find - someone used nicOdate on it trying to bring a date out on it and burned it in the process so that wasn't "dug" and is just another one of your fake post

the iron relics are 100 yrs too late to have been on a 1790s "fort" site that you can't get within 5 miles of in the 1st place with a metal detector unless you want to go to jail, pay fines, lose your vehicle and equip/etc

washers? I'm sure whatever site (not the imaginary fort site) but whatever one you found them on is full of them

the "cut silver?" LOL - the thick ones are fake/cast metal pieces so those weren't dug (probably bought on ebay or at flea market) to use in more of your fake post

and the thin one is a real piece from what I can tell but again = cut silver in upper/middle TN!? Hahaha hehehe hohoho come on!! (Hey guys) especially all you TN guys, how many times over the decades have you dug cut silver up in the mountains of TN a 1000 miles inland from the coast!? That's the same as me making a post on cut silver dug here in Mich and then expecting you to buy into the BS

Don't you EVER get tired of trying to fool/BS us guys that been doing this for 30/40 yrs and expecting us to buy the BS?

I'm sure your 5/6 yr greenhorn hunters like you that you have fooled with your BS'ing just hang on your every word and buy it all because they're too green to know any better/different

but not here dude

MichiganRelicHunter Wrote:
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> St. Liberty quarter is a junk drawer find - someon
> e used nicOdate on it trying to bring a date out o
> n it and burned it in the process so that wasn't "
> dug" and is just another one of your fake post
>
> the iron relics are 100 yrs too late to have been
> on a 1790s "fort" site that you can't get within 5
> miles of in the 1st place with a metal detector un
> less you want to go to jail, pay fines, lose your
> vehicle and equip/etc
>
> washers? I'm sure whatever site (not the imaginary
> fort site) but whatever one you found them on is f
> ull of them
>
> the "cut silver?" LOL - the thick ones are fake/ca
> st metal pieces so those weren't dug (probably bou
> ght on ebay or at flea market) to use in more of y
> our fake post
>
> and the thin one is a real piece from what I can t
> ell but again = cut silver in upper/middle TN!? Ha
> haha hehehe hohoho come on!! (Hey guys) especially
> all you TN guys, how many times over the decades h
> ave you dug cut silver up in the mountains of TN a
> 1000 miles inland from the coast!? That's the same
> as me making a post on cut silver dug here in Mich
> and then expecting you to buy into the BS
>
> Don't you EVER get tired of trying to fool/BS us g
> uys that been doing this for 30/40 yrs and expecti
> ng us to buy the BS?
>
> I'm sure your 5/6 yr greenhorn hunters like you th
> at you have fooled with your BS'ing just hang on y
> our every word and buy it all because they're too
> green to know any better/different
>
> but not here dude


You are wrong here,
The government bought the land supposedly where the fort sat in roughly 1966, for a dam.
And when they bought this land, they based on old maps thought they had bought the fort site.
When the crew showed up to dig, they dug where they thought the fort www based on maps. 1989.
But they eventually figured out, the fort was up the hill more.
Hence it was outside of the governments property.
The gent who owns now, bought just as the excavation and study was near complete.
The fort sat on this gents private land.

Look at this link.
Notice it says fort sat outside of boundary of government,

Get a life MRH.
You are tearing this forum to pieces with your acrobatics.

[en.m.wikipedia.org]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/12/2017 04:26AM by Sod-buster.

MRH,
You are dead wrong.
I found the other 2 pieces about 700 yards on the same landowners land.
Hope you can read the link.

Wild Wally needs to ban you big time.
I got better things to do than salt my finds.
I didn't spend qll the money Inhave on equipment to do that.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/27/2017 02:03AM by Sod-buster.

Yeah, okay shiitshooter

just like the pile of silver/dollars spanning from Morgans to Peace to Ikes, etc. you claim to have found in a old tobacco barn that were obviously never even in the dirt but expected us to believe you found those too

Get your bubble popped.
Notice in the link, the government based on old maps, thought they bought the town too.
They didn't
That is where the fake capped bust dime came from.

I guess I faked a fake right?

Time for you to go.

You offer nothing for no one here.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/27/2017 02:33AM by Sod-buster.

Notice NO-one has said a dam thing in here/on this thread since you posted it except me/you

BUT

it has over 800 views at this moment!?!?

That's because you've been EXPOSED and guys are just coming back to read time and time again while LAUGHING at you!

You just don't "get/see it"

Gigs up shiitshooter = everywhere you go they either laugh you off or just ignore you (except your few = VERY few greenhorn/cronie followers) that just don't know/get it either

OH yeah, you want to know what the folks who call me say about you?
You really Wanta know.

You complain about me not doing commentary.
You complain about no pics of info.
You complain about not doing field test.
I tested Impact and posted a whole lot about.
I have talked about other models detectors too right here.

You are dillusional.



I do operate a metal detector quite often.
Like 5 plus days a week, for hours.

Nice being retired.
Get paid detecting too.
Actually well.
Can't complain.

You can no longer teach me anything.
I am in the fast lane, and have driven by you.
Sorry.
I ain't waiting around for no one. Never have never will.

Get used to it.

Btw, the Gene Smith fellow mentioned in link with the cut silver pics.
Is who got me into detecting.
He lives about a mile and a half from the site I was at today,
To my knowledge only one full Spanish coin been found in or near this site.
Mr Smith found not too long after I started detecting.
A small 1683 in my memory is correct.
Silver reale.
Airt tested his coin on etrac,,,12-40,, little smaller than a dime and thinner If I remember correctly.

He only uses XLT white's detector stock coil.
He detects very little now.
He actually passed me today when Imwas leaving the site.



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Quote

tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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>Found these last fall with Deus

> Figured I'd post these to learn how to correctly p
> ost pics.
>

deadlift Wrote:
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> The susan b anthony and Ikes were dug?

Hahaha = even 2.5 yrs ago guys knew you were full of it shiitshooter

yeah = those silver dollars were all dug in a barn because:

1: = it's common place to dig several silver dollars (almost every one made since minting) on one hunt!! (even though most have never even dug one over decades of hunting)

and

2: because "dug" coins come out of the ground with "PROOF-LIKE" mirrored surfaces (the IKES!) that is so obvious to even the most novice coin collector/hunter that even they know there's no way in hell those coins were dug!?

Man dude, give it UP!

No one buys your BS here anymore!

Hey SA

I posted over 3900 posts here.
Been hunting for. Around 6 years
I haven't posted that many coin finds period.

Mostly what
I have posted as far as finds here has been junk.

If I was going to salt my finds, Inwould have posted far more coin pics than I actually did.

Welcome to the South though, coins around here especially silver in the rural ain't easy to get.
Got to have permission to hunt too.
Folks around here are curious cats.

One day MRH you'll see the big pic.
Notice in the link above, it makes a comments about the cut silver being on the Tn frontier.
Guy up the road from me, Imhave hunted with him, I even posted the you tube where we hunted together here.
He found cut silver too.

I guess just another salter right?

You post your finds here,,what is strange is you type in all Caps like a you have never ever found anything in what 30 plus years detecting,

You know, I have 3 completed Deus units with coils.
Plus a spare 11" coil.

Wonder why I bought 3 Deus units?
Juat to post pics of salted finds.

Btw, don't you have the HF coil?
Where is all your commentary.
Give folks here the skinny why don't you,

Only one person has been exposed here.
I'll let folks draw their own conclusions about me.

I am bad dude.

I give metal detectors alway to folks here.
I loan metal detectors to folks I have never met.
I spend my own loot quite often talking long distance to help folks with their detectors.

I even post helpful links here with info for folks.

This is who I am.

You know the government trusted me to work, supervise manage aircraft that cost over 200 million dollars a piece.

I figure over 22 years of time doing, if I Were a scam, they would have kicked me out.
They didn't.
You keep dry walling it their buddy.
Pay those taxes.
And I'll sit back and spend them for you enjoying detecting.

Now everyone knows why you really never do get too deep in the weeds when it comes to explaining things.
I know I do.

You probably think this pic is a mirage.
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Quote

Sod-buster Wrote:
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Hey SA

I posted over 3900 posts here.
Been hunting for. Around 6 years
I haven't posted that many coin finds period.

Mostly what I have posted as far as finds here has been junk.

If I was going to salt my finds, Inwould have posted far more coin pics than I actually did.

Welcome to the South though, coins around here especially silver in the rural ain't easy to get. Got to have permission to hunt too. Folks around here are curious cats.

One day MRH you'll see the big pic.
Notice in the link above, it makes a comments about the cut silver being on the Tn frontier. Guy up the road from me, Imhave hunted with him, I even posted the you tube where we hunted together here.
He found cut silver too.

I guess just another salter right?

You post your finds here,,what is strange is you type in all Caps like a you have never ever found anything in what 30 plus years detecting,

You know, I have 3 completed Deus units with coils
.
Plus a spare 11" coil.

Wonder why I bought 3 Deus units?
Juat to post pics of salted finds.

Btw, don't you have the HF coil?
Where is all your commentary.
Give folks here the skinny why don't you,

Only one person has been exposed here.
I'll let folks draw their own conclusions about me
.

I am bad dude.

I give metal detectors alway to folks here.
I loan metal detectors to folks I have never met.
I spend my own loot quite often talking long distance to help folks with their detectors.

I even post helpful links here with info for folks

This is who I am.

You know the government trusted me to work, supervise manage aircraft that cost over 200 million dollars a piece.

I figure over 22 years of time doing, if I Were a scam, they would have kicked me out. They didn't. You keep dry walling it their buddy. Pay those taxes. And I'll sit back and spend them for you enjoying detecting. Now everyone knows why you really never do get too deep in the weeds when it comes to explaining things. I know I do.

You probably think this pic is a mirage.

Your entire post here speaks volumes of who/how you really are but the part/s in bold type above say it all. Not only does it show your non stop egotistical braggart and self deluded nature but it shows you have no idea what I actually do for a living as a whole in being a self supportive/sustaining business owner with a multitude of learned and perfected skilled trades under my belt over a span of 30+ yrs. It also shows us all the true reason behind your so called "generosity". I don't have to BUY my friends by giving free detectors away or loaning out my equipment to strangers and/or people I've never met in person, etc. and it's sad to watch when someone is so desperate to fit in/make friends and try to get people to like him = that he resorts to doing such.

You must have been the fat kid everyone picked on/beat up in school that had to buy what little friends you had with candy and lunch money?



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No MRH, this what you posted speaks volumes of you.

All I did was posted what I found.

As far as the silver dollars I found go.
Do you know anything about raising tobacco?
Well, I think the later models likely lost by kids who were helping strip tobacco after the Christams time from frame.

Now the grandmothers around here back in the 60s and 70s started a tradition to give each of their grandchildren and great grand children a silver dollar for Christmas.

Now the older ones I don't know.

Some of these barns are very dry, have hay in them too.
And some of these coins may have been left in a garment, and the garment later moved even years later and the coin(s) fell out.

You are quick to jump to conclusions.

Posting clad silver dollars I find really non significant finds.
But some of these barns do have loads of iron, a good place to practice when green up is happening or its raining.

Later MRH.
A lot learned by me in this thread.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/27/2017 03:00PM by Sod-buster.

Michigan relic hunter,

I have been watching these threads and have kept silent until now but the second you said "you must have been the fat kid everyone picked on in school and had to buy friends" told me exactly the type of person you are and I am sure I am not the only one to take offense at that particular respinve. This is a forum where people come to share experiences about metal detecting and knowledge. I do not find jokes about making fun of fat kids and picking on them funny, please refrain from that .

Welgund Wrote:
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> Michigan relic hunter,
>
> I have been watching these threads and have kept s
> ilent until now but the second you said "you must
> have been the fat kid everyone picked on in school
> and had to buy friends" told me exactly the type
> of person you are and I am sure I am not the only
> one to take offense at that particular respinve.
> This is a forum where people come to share experie
> nces about metal detecting and knowledge. I do no
> t find jokes about making fun of fat kids and pick
> ing on them funny, please refrain from that .

X2

tabman

X4 This forum has become a joke as of late, between the the un-moderated personal attacks and sniping, plus that former political topic. There is some good technical info on this forum, and I'd suggest that if you are not here to appreciate that info or contribute, then see you later.

2600, 100 or 50 posts does not give you or any others on this forum the god given right to personally attack, judge or run members off this forum. Unfortunately that's what happens when you have an under-moderated forum.

Well hell at least this forum is cheap entertainment Man u guys crack me up.

For anyone that cares.
I took all my cut silver finds down to Mr Gene Smith's house,,he's mentioned in the wikipedia link.

I stand to correct myself, Mr Smith has found it looks like10 full size Spanish silvers in the general area I was hunting.
Earliest dated coin I could legibly read 1746.

He has also found 1 bit pieces, no 2 bit pieces and even smaller than 1 bit pieces.

Looking at his pieces, he and I both agree, my find is the 5 cent piece.
He had a couple pieces somewhat larger than mine,,,and we think these are indeed 61/2 cent pieces.

Cheers



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Alright 14 more hours hunting with this detector since Sat afternoon.

Still liking this coil.

I have learned more about masking effects of soil since getting this coil and using vs all my other detecting time combined.
Very, very true.

I want to thank 2 people here.
Keith and Paul (Old California).

I read both gents threads.
Making is talked about by both.
I especially key on Paul's comments since it seems his soil is even nastier than mine or Keith's generally.

More about this coil.
Deep mode, yep it will get you deeper, but user will likely dig more iron- tone nuance on iron is reduced somewhat.

If this coil didn't run as quiet as it does, IMO wouldn't be near the coil it is.
I will also say, some relics, even coins and jewelry have been left in the ground by folks using the LF coils (including me) due to the chatiness.

This coil is unmasking alright.
But don't think for one minute all detected targets are going to give blazing saddles tone.
I think XP did a grand Jo beer with this coil,,seems the tone produced when it does transition due to masking and or depth combined (can be related to mineral) it is a more gradual process.
Beginner HF coil users, even experienced deus LF coi users,,,if you hunt a site, even do open field hunting,,,until you get a handle on this coil, you might consider going back.
Don't ask me how I know this. LOL

Something strange again happened today just like Saturday's hunt.
I get this warbly signal, one might think iron, but since I've been tuning in to deus here. I had a good hunch to dig.
Cut the plug with about 4" dirt attached and flipped, swung deus over and get a head iron grunt meter reading 6.
Upon stepping on plug then the target states coming through.
Big musket ball.
Furhter inspections and testing showed zero ferrous detectable with pinpointer and detector.
Masking???
I suppose.
But Inwill be watching others comments here as far as this HF coil and marvel shaped objects.
Could be some thing in the program, remember marble shaped in not flat or disc shaped.

I have used 74 kHz and made a few finds.
Using 28.8khz over these same undisturbed nonferrous, I don't think Inwould have dug them on my best day using. 28.8 khz.
And using the lest freq band-- no way in the world.

Something else I have been checking, running middle freq band up,to approx 31.xx kHz,,,doing this does offer some advantage tone quality/duration/ smoothness vs using 28.8khz on some detectable targets I have located.

Btw using the upper band freq like 74khz,,,very coil height peculiar.

Also some targets detected using 28.8khz could in fact be detected using 14.4khz,,,now some tone quality/smoothness/ duration usually sacrificed,,,biggest thing here was coil height disadvantage comparing to 28.8khz.

Lots of ways to run this coil.
And pull some goodies.
Love the balance/weight distribution.

Coil swing speed in polluted sites needs to be managed.
Deus tone will try and run together if you don't, not giving user what they need to hear over nonferrous target.

Anyone who desires a tip in understanding how this coil works as far as unmasking and how it can sound.
Do the following.
Get yourself a piece of thin foil about the size of a quarter or nickle.
Bury at various depths using 28.8kha, Reactivty 2.5 or 3 silencer -1.
May take multiple tries burying, freshly buried may not work as easily as undisturbed.
But you keep at it with different depths you'll eventually start hearing what Inhave referred to above.

Cheers.