The Perfect Detector - "will we ever see it?"

auminesweeper Wrote:
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> > > MXT SNIPER Wrote:
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> > > > I don't think knob detectors are dead at all
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> > I
> > > lo
> > > > ve my gpx4500 with switches and knobs, as we
> ll
> > a
> > > s
> > > > my mxt pro, great machines. I think knobs an
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> > sw
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> > > > ches could be integrated into more new tech
> so
> > ft
> > > wa
> > > > re driven machines and setup would be far ea
> si
> > er
> > > .
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> > > I agree, rotary knobs are 100% variable where
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> > p
> > > ush pads have preset stages where every push o
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> > th
> > > e pad moves it by a set distance which is tota
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> > y
> > > useless if the perfect setting comes between t
> wo
> > p
> > > ushes of the pad where as rotary controls can
> be
> > s
> > > et with pin point accuracy and Rotary Controls
> h
> > av
> > > e a much smaller failure rate that push pads.
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> >
> > Now John---that's just HOGWASH!!!-----Well, mayb
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> > not ALL hogwash---but ur jest tryin to hurt my l
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> > tle ole E800's feelins!!!!
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> There is nothing wrong with folks liking push pads
> either, I just prefer the finer adjustments of Rot
> ary Controls, I was just wondering the same thing
> about Tyre Gauges but there really is nothing to c
> ompare,
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> Crazy part is some of the finest detectors ever ma
> de never had screens, But regarding the rotary con
> trols, take a look at the Whites MX-S with it's pr
> eset SAT speed step of 6 then 8 with no in between
> settings , but Some of their other machines the SA
> T goes from 0 to 10 which is 100% variable giving
> 100+/- settings, trying to match the SAT to suit t
> he Ground is a tad more accurate than those 8 pre
> set steps, To me that seems like they are wanting
> us to adopt a near enough is good enough type of a
> ttitude, accepting second best, So how would it be
> if they done away with tone ID and variable discri
> mination,
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> Now For the Serious Part.
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> I don't like how they are cutting corners when it
> comes to the design and function of most things, I
> will not be told by a detector company that someth
> ing is good enough, We saw how that worked out 2 y
> ears ago and it wasn't pretty. And to some degree
> a few machines have not lived up to the pre produc
> tion Hype,
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> After the last time I don't trust them, I don't be
> lieve them, And I have been Lied to by them And I
> won't be handing over any of my money Until I see
> proof, There was once a time when they would work
> hard to make sure their detectors were perfect bef
> ore they hit the stores But now their near enough
> is good enough attitude is hurting the Hobby, I do
> n't see why I should have to buy a Detector and th
> en send it in to get it fixed so I can use it, not
> just once but 4 or 5 times, You would not see Role
> x or Omega or Bentley or Rolls Royce release a pro
> duct and have their customers do the QC work invol
> ved So why should we have to do it.
>
> This Hobby Died 2 and a half years Ago when we all
> owed them to take the piss, I Will not hand over 1
> cent until they get things back on track, In fact
> I have spent money on every other thing I can thin
> k of but since that day I have not spent 1 cent on
> detecting in 2 and a half years, In fact I am So P
> 'd off with them that I have given away all but 2
> or 3 detectors,
>
> As far as I am concerned there are better things t
> o waste money on than detectors that don't work an
> d if they want the public to do their QC testing t
> hen they better start paying wages.
>
> RANT OVER, lol

I knew that would get a rise out of yah.-----You did make some good points my friend.-----------Del

D&P-OR Wrote:
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> I knew that would get a rise out of yah.-----You
> did make some good points my friend.-----------Del

I think ML have worked wonders with the Equinox and the GM-1000, they have managed to listen and give the people what they have been asking for and Not what they think they want, and Not a machine stuffed in to one of their cheaper models, Minelab have done really well and have made the most complete package out of all the current offerings So Good on them for that.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/02/2018 12:19AM by auminesweeper.

There will never be a perfect detector until there is a perfect detectorist.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/02/2018 01:22AM by coinspader.

coinspader Wrote:
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> There will never be a perfect detector until there
> is a perfect detectorist.

+1

PhDtector Wrote:
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> > There will never be a perfect detector until the
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> > is a perfect detectorist.
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You new guys aren't going to find one of those animals (perfect detectorist) on this forum.-----We're all "just human"!

D&P-OR Wrote:
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> > > There will never be a perfect detector until t
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> > re
> > > is a perfect detectorist.
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> You new guys aren't going to find one of those ani
> mals (perfect detectorist) on this forum.-----We'r
> e all "just human"!

AMEN to that Brother Del.

Its like anything else....... please as many as you can because you wont please um all. We'd all like customized detectors..... that aint going to happen. Most machines have growing pains when they first come out especially those that go in the water. No one likes repairs..... no one. Thats why a lot of us have taken the ....... lets give it time before i spend my money attitude. We never know how much hardware or software gets changed during the testing of a detector. Id hope they feel all the bugs are out of um before they put them on the street and we arent doing the testing...... because we arent seeing a lot of changes after the fact. Sooooo are these changes being silently made......... if so is the second batch better than the first? I dont like bean counters who say...... dont tell them unless they have a problem..... let them figure out there is one...then be the hero and fix it.

Metal detectors should be tested prior to public sale. These proto-types should be used extensively in or out of the water, as it was designed. If these tests were already being done, why are there so many bugs or leaks on new models we the consumer paid for???..............Yes the warranty should cover repairs, but man what a pain. As an example:: The At-Pro fiasco was ridiculous....it took almost 4 months for the recall to be announced. All the while still blaming us aggressive hunters as being part of the problem. Are we paying to be guinea pigs......basically Testers?? Hopefully things have changed since then. Just don't understand how this could happen. Car manufactures have recalls, so not impossible. Okay..done venting...lol



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/02/2018 11:20PM by Arkansas.

Electronics can be fickle...... and not everyone takes great care of their equipment. I think the Nox was a good example of it not being dunked enough...... didnt even had the headphones to do it. BUT .... there hasnt been a huge amount of issues. Ive found it takes some time to know how a machine really works or if there are problems until it gets in the hands of a diverse group of hunters.