What would you like to see in the new Nokta Multi Freq?

Modulated audio and tone adjustment. No worry about a wobble in a Nokta. Not sure how many programs or modes one would need. Post your thoughts now that we have a chance.

A small coil asap.

A non wobbling shaft won't get you more finds lol
If they could design a multi freq where you could select the freqs you want to use to suit each site.

Variable freq weighting while multi freq is in use.
Allow use of single freq ops
If possible have way to exclude whichever freq a perons wants to exclude while using multi freq.
Nice audio
Waterproof detector rating that at least matches Kruzer series detectors.
Multi language capable menu
VDI span of at least 99 numbers or segments with no more than 15 positions assigned to ferrous.
Lipro battery a must
An easy viewable screen
Easy navigation of menu, some ingenuity needs to be done here so screen space is not littered moreso with modes/settings labels. Consider using universal symbols instead of words.
Menu as far as navigation, ensure menunsettings can be navigated forwards and backwards. (Equinox weakness btw)
Advanced menu settings (more out of sight)
Superficially as long as enough mode info is present to get a person going with detector st first, more less viewed modes or mode setups (number of tones) can be more obscured but readily accessible
Auto and Manual GB
Mineralization index meter- needs to be able to denote minimum 5 levels of mineralization(from inert to the most severe) and be more accurate when coil is pumped over ground rather then swept over ground.
Speed or recovery speed adjustment
Properly located external speaker. Unit should be able to be used /heard nicely using external speaker.
Updatable
Coils of different sizes ready at actual detector release. (Equinox weakness)
Electronic manual is fine.
Make updatable compatible with both Windows and Mac OS.
Keep using the cable connectors used on Impact, .kruzer etc.
Detector weight total weight goal of between 3.25lbs and 3.5 lbs with stock sized coil attached.
Adopt Gen (d) mode off of Impact detector.
Pinpoint option of normal and ratchet offered.
Iron tone volume
Allow zero tone (no volume) settings for each VDI segment desired
Rejected nonferrous volume
Depth meter both metric and inches-scaled for accuracy using US Nickel coin.
Backlight - adjustable along with back lit buttons/controls
Vibrate mode-adjustable
Battery life charge meter- accessible for viewing if one wants to view. Would be more of an advanced viewed thingy.
Saved setting with electronic update done-unless new parameter is created with update then maybe not feasible or practical.
Saved settings option for user.
Unit needs selectable freqs tone for each VDI number, not bins, system however should allow a person to make a bin if they choose.
Back up power source (place) much like Kruzer. This would not count towards the weight goal for detector I mention above.
AUTO NOISE cancel feature with user having ability to manual select channels as well.
Twist camlocks a No, No for water and dirty environments.
Don’t know how this figures in here with mulit freq, but at the very least normalized and unnormalized VDI settings allowed at least using single freqs ops. I don’t know how this feature could be used exactly using multi freqs ops.
Adjustable arm cuff with strap.
Discrimination should be allowed per segment or number.
Color of detector black, nothing that screams out color wise.
Transferable warranty
This may exist, but if it doesn’t, a way to register equipment, and a way for a person having serial number to confirm warranty period remaining. No sales receipt required for warranty repairs if registered if unit malfunctions indeed inside warranty period.
Waterproof wireless headphones- realizing nonfunctional when detector or headphones are submerged, does give waders security when using wireless headphone though.(Equinox weakness) rating should be at least down to 5-6 ft if done.
Consider setting up Nokta-Makro USA site maybe tied to one or more of your distributors here in USA. With this done consider setting up a process where some select persons can infact put stories about your detectors on your site, to include finds. Something along lines on what Minelab site does. Btw I think Xp America site helped Xp in USA with sales.
Detailed policy on battery(s) service should be provided at release of detector. Both in warranty and out of warranty.
Allow nonproprietary wireless like blue tooth be used with detector- so detector needs to be blue tooth capable.
If possible NO smart coils like you know who.
Consider hot key process where certain important setting should and or readings are able to be accessed quickly with push of a button. You would have to get input here from testers on which to have as part of process.
Unit needs no GPS system.
At least 1 extra coil bolt.
If battery charger is provided should be a able to charge both detector and wireless headphones simultaneously.
Have associated computer program on your site allowing detector and pc interface to allow detector settings changed before going afield.

One last thing. Wireless headphones. Would be nice to see some ingenuity as to have the headphones with actual width adjustment. Hard to get a one size fits all without doing. Some folks heads narrower, and some broader. So my wishes are they have a width adjustment as well as a height adjustment for the ear cups.



Edited 44 time(s). Last edit at 09/16/2018 09:37PM by tnsharpshooter.

Don't forget coffee maker and candy machine. ><

I want true multi frequency in a waterproof box with a 14 to 15 inch coil available at launch and Bluetooth headphones that will work on any detector.
I want to be able to turn it on and hold a button until it becomes unstable and then back it down a little bit and hunt.
I want a computer program like the CTX to set up the bins with tone and volume at home. When I get to the site I want to hunt. NOT ADJUST.

THE REST IS BS.

Updateable? Why? Wait six months for the new one.

Depends on what market they are targeting. Salt, Deep Silver or Relics?

ghound Wrote:
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> A non wobbling shaft won't get you more finds lol
> If they could design a multi freq where you could
> select the freqs you want to use to suit each site
> .

That shaft wobble was one of the reasons I ditched the other one.

Accurate TID at depth
depth TID discriminate
on detecting screen depth meter in inches

How about a simple salt water machine that concentrates on gold..... something you can hunt with in true AM. Something that doesnt just find the big stuff....... there is a need to find that gold just a few inches down that just isnt be seen.

If a detector is producing for me I would never unload it due to shaft wobble.
I would just JB WELD it together and keep digging targets.

texkinzee Wrote:
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> ghound Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A non wobbling shaft won't get you more finds lo
> l
> > If they could design a multi freq where you coul
> d
> > select the freqs you want to use to suit each si
> te
> > .
>
> That shaft wobble was one of the reasons I ditched
> the other one.

As I have stated on other forums.....shaft wobble fixed for 24 bucks.

GreenMeanie Wrote:
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> If a detector is producing for me I would never un
> load it due to shaft wobble.
> I would just JB WELD it together and keep digging
> targets.
>
> texkinzee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ghound Wrote:
> > ------------------------------------------------
> --
> > -----
> > > A non wobbling shaft won't get you more finds
> lo
> > l
> > > If they could design a multi freq where you co
> ul
> > d
> > > select the freqs you want to use to suit each
> si
> > te
> > > .
> >
> > That shaft wobble was one of the reasons I ditch
> ed
> > the other one.

Did not seem to bother many users.

tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> Variable freq weighting while multi freq is in use
> .
> Allow use of single freq ops
> If possible have way to exclude whichever freq a p
> erons wants to exclude while using multi freq.
> Nice audio
> Waterproof detector rating that at least matches K
> ruzer series detectors.
> Multi language capable menu
> VDI span of at least 99 numbers or segments with n
> o more than 15 positions assigned to ferrous.
> Lipro battery a must
> An easy viewable screen
> Easy navigation of menu, some ingenuity needs to b
> e done here so screen space is not littered moreso
> with modes/settings labels. Consider using univer
> sal symbols instead of words.
> Menu as far as navigation, ensure menunsettings c
> an be navigated forwards and backwards. (Equinox w
> eakness btw)
> Advanced menu settings (more out of sight)
> Superficially as long as enough mode info is prese
> nt to get a person going with detector st first, m
> ore less viewed modes or mode setups (number of to
> nes) can be more obscured but readily accessible
> Auto and Manual GB
> Mineralization index meter
> Speed or recovery speed adjustment
> Properly located external speaker. Unit should be
> able to be used /heard nicely using external speak
> er.
> Updatable
> Coils of different sizes ready at actual detector
> release. (Equinox weakness)
> Electronic manual is fine.
> Make updatable compatible with both Windows and Ma
> c OS.
> Keep using the cable connectors used on Impact, .k
> ruzer etc.
> Detector weight total weight goal of between 3.25l
> bs and 3.5 lbs with stock sized coil attached.
> Adopt Gen (d) mode off of Impact detector.
> Pinpoint option of normal and ratchet offered.
> Iron tone volume
> Allow zero tone (no volume) settings for each VDI
> segment desired
> Rejected nonferrous volume
> Depth meter both metric and inches-scaled for accu
> racy using US Nickel coin.
> Backlight - adjustable
> Vibrate mode-adjustable
> Battery life charge meter- accessible for viewing
> if one wants to view. Would be more of an advance
> d viewed thingy.
> Saved setting with electronic update done-unless n
> ew parameter is created with update then maybe not
> feasible or practical.
> Saved settings option for user.
> Unit needs selectable freqs tone for each VDI numb
> er, not bins, system however should allow a person
> to make a bin if they choose.
> Back up power source (place) much like Kruzer. Th
> is would not count towards the weight goal for det
> ector I mention above.
> AUTO NOISE cancel feature with user having ability
> to manual select channels as well.
> Twist camlocks a No, No for water and dirty enviro
> nments.
> Don’t know how this figures in here with mulit fre
> q, but at the very least normalized and unnormaliz
> ed VDI settings allowed at least using single freq
> s ops. I don’t know how this feature could be use
> d exactly using multi freqs ops.
> Adjustable arm cuff with strap.
> Discrimination should be allowed per segment or nu
> mber.
> Color of detector black, nothing that screams out
> color wise.
> Transferable warranty
> This may exist, but if it doesn’t, a way to regist
> er equipment, and a way for a person having serial
> number to confirm warranty period remaining. No s
> ales receipt required for warranty repairs if regi
> stered if unit malfunctions indeed inside warranty
> period.
> Waterproof wireless headphones- realizing nonfunct
> ional when detector or headphones are submerged,
> does give waders security when using wireless head
> phone though.(Equinox weakness) rating should be a
> t least down to 5-6 ft if done.
> Consider setting up Nokta-Makro USA site maybe tie
> d to one or more of your distributors here in USA.
> With this done consider setting up a process where
> some select persons can infact put stories about y
> our detectors on your site, to include finds. Som
> ething along lines on what Minelab site does. Btw
> I think Xp America site helped Xp in USA with sale
> s.
> Detailed policy on battery(s) service should be pr
> ovided at release of detector. Both in warranty a
> nd out of warranty.
> Allow nonproprietary wireless like blue tooth be u
> sed with detector- so detector needs to be blue to
> oth capable.
> If possible NO smart coils like you know who.
> Consider hot key process where certain important s
> etting should and or readings are able to be acces
> sed quickly with push of a button. You would have
> to get input here from testers on which to have as
> part of process.
> Unit needs no GPS system.
> At least 1 extra coil bolt.
> If battery charger is provided should be a able
> to charge both detector and wireless headphones si
> multaneously.
>
> I am still thinking, more to come.

Better call Saul .

.....to become reality.

Tex,
How soon are they talking about introducing a MF?
It would have to surpass what is already being offered, obviously. I know the build quality of the Nox turned you and others off (I haven't had any issues with mine). Nok/Mak build quality has always been superior...so no worries there. What I and others had craved from a MF unit prior to the release of the Nox was processing speed/separation. For my type/style of hunting the Nox fits my needs well.

A non - compressed VDI number system, CO-FE, etc. Hell, how about a lite, affordable CTX? I would imagine that's what the Nox 2.0 will be. What they really need, and probably have, is an engineer/designer who can think out of the box more than me and think a step ahead of what the Nox 2.0 will be.

Dean

bado1 Wrote:
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> Tex,
> How soon are they talking about introducing a MF?
> It would have to surpass what is already being off
> ered, obviously. I know the build quality of the N
> ox turned you and others off (I haven't had any is
> sues with mine). Nok/Mak build quality has always
> been superior...so no worries there. What I and ot
> hers had craved from a MF unit prior to the releas
> e of the Nox was processing speed/separation. For
> my type/style of hunting the Nox fits my needs wel
> l.
>
> A non - compressed VDI number system, CO-FE, etc.
> Hell, how about a lite, affordable CTX? I would im
> agine that's what the Nox 2.0 will be. What they r
> eally need, and probably have, is an engineer/desi
> gner who can think out of the box more than me and
> think a step ahead of what the Nox 2.0 will be.
>
> Dean

Dean said what I would have said as well. No matter what they bring to the table, to get interest outside of the normal Makro/Nokta fanbase, it is going to have to surpass what is already out there. There are many avenues for them to consider, but I would caution to be careful in what they actually implement. What I wouldn't want to see, is rehashed 20 year old Minelab tech. I would rather it be something new and innovative.

It will be interesting to see what they can do with the platform.

I mostly have used the Multi Kruzer in the water. My lower shaft doesn't wobble but it is the middle rod that wobbles on it. I think the stress of water hunting has caused it to do this, despite the cam lock being tight....it only does it when there is a lot of torque on it from the resistance in the water. My Nox has never had a wobble to it.

There are a few little things I would like to see though...not performance wise. A back light that is adjustable. Buttons that are lit up or perhaps glow in the dark so you can see them at night. Someone else mentioned a biggie that I wish the Kruzer and Nox had....the PC program for being able to set tone bins, tone breaks, etc that you can load into the detector instead of having to do it all ON the detector itself.

A threshold based motion ALL METAL mode would be the bomb.

9 INCH COIL for water hunting!!!

I heard that they had one in development over a year ago, so while I don't think their starting from scratch? It's great their sequestering design input.

Unless they make it with a color screen, then PLEASE IMPLEMENT A RED LCD SCREEN for backlighting and night hunting. Please keep the 5 selectable backlight levels, best backlighting I've had on a detector but RED LCD would make it near perfect.

The way White's implemented their V3i in a lightweight package, with easier setup/configuration, waterproof, BRING BACK THE TRIGGER SWITCH

AptX LL wireless

BRING BACK THE IMPACT STYLE STRAIGHT SHAFT W/INTERNAL CABLE CONFIG BUT MAKE IT ERGONOMIC.

A program to program the detector would be great, there's been some decent ones for the Minelab machines for example.

Nice coil selection out of the gate.

Implement some of the Invenio Smart Detector & 3D Imaging technology into it, do what FTP could not ( yet claimed they were). Maybe make it the new DEEP MODE



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Daniel Tn Wrote:
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> bado1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tex,
> > How soon are they talking about introducing a MF
> ?
> > It would have to surpass what is already being o
> ff
> > ered, obviously. I know the build quality of the
> N
> > ox turned you and others off (I haven't had any
> is
> > sues with mine). Nok/Mak build quality has alway
> s
> > been superior...so no worries there. What I and
> ot
> > hers had craved from a MF unit prior to the rele
> as
> > e of the Nox was processing speed/separation. Fo
> r
> > my type/style of hunting the Nox fits my needs w
> el
> > l.
> >
> > A non - compressed VDI number system, CO-FE, etc
> .
> > Hell, how about a lite, affordable CTX? I would
> im
> > agine that's what the Nox 2.0 will be. What they
> r
> > eally need, and probably have, is an engineer/de
> si
> > gner who can think out of the box more than me a
> nd
> > think a step ahead of what the Nox 2.0 will be.
> >
> > Dean
>
> Dean said what I would have said as well. No matt
> er what they bring to the table, to get interest o
> utside of the normal Makro/Nokta fanbase, it is go
> ing to have to surpass what is already out there.
> There are many avenues for them to consider, but I
> would caution to be careful in what they actually
> implement. What I wouldn't want to see, is rehashe
> d 20 year old Minelab tech. I would rather it be
> something new and innovative.
>
> It will be interesting to see what they can do wit
> h the platform.
>
> I mostly have used the Multi Kruzer in the water.
> My lower shaft doesn't wobble but it is the middle
> rod that wobbles on it. I think the stress of wat
> er hunting has caused it to do this, despite the c
> am lock being tight....it only does it when there
> is a lot of torque on it from the resistance in th
> e water. My Nox has never had a wobble to it.
>
> There are a few little things I would like to see
> though...not performance wise. A back light that
> is adjustable. Buttons that are lit up or perhaps
> glow in the dark so you can see them at night. So
> meone else mentioned a biggie that I wish the Kruz
> er and Nox had....the PC program for being able to
> set tone bins, tone breaks, etc that you can load
> into the detector instead of having to do it all O
> N the detector itself.
>
> A threshold based motion ALL METAL mode would be t
> he bomb.
>
> 9 INCH COIL for water hunting!!!


So Daniel you want to see something like this as far as lighting?
e

ozzie Wrote:
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> Don't forget coffee maker and candy machine. ><

oh, and a cup holder

tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> So Daniel you want to see something like this as f
> ar as lighting?
> e


Can you move that paper, I can't see what this is?

Cal_cobra Wrote:
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> tnsharpshooter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > So Daniel you want to see something like this as
> f
> > ar as lighting?
> > e
>
>
> Can you move that paper, I can't see what this is?

Unfortunately I can’t at the present.



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I kind of thought that was the case

Anyone else notice the iPhone type trend going on with Nokta/Makro releases?

bado1 Wrote:
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> Tex,
> How soon are they talking about introducing a MF?
> It would have to surpass what is already being off
> ered, obviously. I know the build quality of the N
> ox turned you and others off (I haven't had any is
> sues with mine). Nok/Mak build quality has always
> been superior...so no worries there. What I and ot
> hers had craved from a MF unit prior to the releas
> e of the Nox was processing speed/separation. For
> my type/style of hunting the Nox fits my needs wel
> l.
>
> A non - compressed VDI number system, CO-FE, etc.
> Hell, how about a lite, affordable CTX? I would im
> agine that's what the Nox 2.0 will be. What they r
> eally need, and probably have, is an engineer/desi
> gner who can think out of the box more than me and
> think a step ahead of what the Nox 2.0 will be.
>
> Dean
Dean,
I have no association with any manufacturer to include Nokta/Makro. I requested to test the Gold Kruzer. I use their products own my own dime. I just find them well made and enough features to keep me wanting more. My favorite is the Impact. I can't get out much anymore but when I do I use the Impact and a few other favorites. Keep digging.

texkinzee Wrote:
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> bado1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tex,
> > How soon are they talking about introducing a MF
> ?
> > It would have to surpass what is already being o
> ff
> > ered, obviously. I know the build quality of the
> N
> > ox turned you and others off (I haven't had any
> is
> > sues with mine). Nok/Mak build quality has alway
> s
> > been superior...so no worries there. What I and
> ot
> > hers had craved from a MF unit prior to the rele
> as
> > e of the Nox was processing speed/separation. Fo
> r
> > my type/style of hunting the Nox fits my needs w
> el
> > l.
> >
> > A non - compressed VDI number system, CO-FE, etc
> .
> > Hell, how about a lite, affordable CTX? I would
> im
> > agine that's what the Nox 2.0 will be. What they
> r
> > eally need, and probably have, is an engineer/de
> si
> > gner who can think out of the box more than me a
> nd
> > think a step ahead of what the Nox 2.0 will be.
> >
> > Dean
> Dean,
> I have no association with any manufacturer to inc
> lude Nokta/Makro. I requested to test the Gold Kru
> zer. I use their products own my own dime. I just
> find them well made and enough features to keep me
> wanting more. My favorite is the Impact. I can't g
> et out much anymore but when I do I use the Impact
> and a few other favorites. Keep digging.

Thanks, Tex!

Dean

Just don't release it and a few months later have another new machine ready to sell

LowBoy

TAKE A LITTLE TIME KICKBACK AND WATCH SOME OF MY DETECTING VIDEO'S BELOW ON YouTube

[www.youtube.com]

If you don’t dig it, then how are you going to know what you’re missing!
How can you have your pudding if you don’t eat your meat!

Well they have the waterproof and coils ..a good solid package..they have the VLF designed into a world class sturdy build quality design .With all the goodies in place.

What I want to see is Simultaneous Multi freq but keep the DNA of what they have the same...just say give us a Multi Kruzer or Anfibio but have it doing multi at once..DON'T CHANGE THE DNA...things like Better ID and Better punch will HOPEFULLY/SHOULD take care of there selves and create a UNIQUE one of a kind Multi transmission platform..

A HYPER unit with Multi transmission in the background seamlessly happening would be my desire.Make in happen multi at once for the performance gain it offers or be able to turn it off and choose any freq in the band you want but make it when its in multi or single transmission there's no sluggishness or hindrance of the processed signal

Keith

“I don't care that they stole my idea . . I care that they don't have any of their own”
-Nikola Tesla

Make sure the upper frequency is at least 40Khz (higher may be better).

Simultaneous Multi freq but keep the DNA of what they have the same...just say give us a Multi Kruzer or Anfibio...

They should have done that with the Anfibio and yet they announce a future machine. You have to wonder if the hype and newer software is going to make a lot of us buy the Anfibo? They are moving a bit too fast and leaving me wondering I should just wait until they release their new machine and we can see how it beats out the Nox 800. Have to hope that the Nox 800 will hopefully have some major software upgrades so they can stay one step above the competition.

LowBoy

TAKE A LITTLE TIME KICKBACK AND WATCH SOME OF MY DETECTING VIDEO'S BELOW ON YouTube

[www.youtube.com]

If you don’t dig it, then how are you going to know what you’re missing!
How can you have your pudding if you don’t eat your meat!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/16/2018 06:32PM by Lawrenzo.

If they even were able to implement a watered down or more rudimentary Invenio Smart Detector & 3D Imaging technology into it, say in the DEEP mode, it would differentiate itself from all other SMF machines made.