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wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 04, 2018 11:54AM
Want a clean unit.
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 04, 2018 11:56AM
I thought you already had & tested a "V".
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 04, 2018 12:05PM
I want one to keep just for those special occasions …..when I have it out with the Tesoro clan. LOL
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 04, 2018 01:21PM
Bahaha you want one to use as a stirring stick. That is hilarious!! I've been down that road with them before and trust me...no matter what you say or show in video, they already have a long list of goto excuses. You could have 5 Vaqueros and 5 Tejons and every one of them be clones of one another in performance....but if you show the reality of them getting destroyed by other brand detectors in depth or iron, their #1 goto will be that your units are "cold" units and that they have one of the few "hot" ones in the whole world that would have passed your tests with flying colors. Trust me...it's coming.
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 04, 2018 02:28PM
He already did a test with a Vaquero up against the Nox where the Vaquero performed as good or better. He already knows just how good the Vaq is. Having one on hand with the 5.75 concentric coil is good thinking for the scenarios where it needed. I am a firm believer in a good Tesoro because I have used them since 1993. I also have a CTX, Deus, Deeptech VGG, smart plus,MMK, MXT, all fun to use.
Calabash, I would get the Vaq over the Tejon, it's GB is led finicky.
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 04, 2018 02:41PM
Ole' Calabash is a Tesoro Man!
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 04, 2018 02:50PM
An entire Winter of a giant urination contest. The forums have gone to crap.
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 04, 2018 03:15PM
Welgund Wrote:
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> He already did a test with a Vaquero up against th
> e Nox where the Vaquero performed as good or bette
> r. He already knows just how good the Vaq is. Ha
> ving one on hand with the 5.75 concentric coil is
> good thinking for the scenarios where it needed.
> I am a firm believer in a good Tesoro because I ha
> ve used them since 1993. I also have a CTX, Deus,
> Deeptech VGG, smart plus,MMK, MXT, all fun to use.
> Calabash, I would get the Vaq over the Tejon, it's
> GB is led finicky.

You must have missed his post up above mine where he said he wanted one for special occasions, with suspense dots, and then quote "when I have it out with the Tesoro clan".

That to me, is saying that he wants one on hand to stir the pot with and not to use. If you follow his posts on other forums, he has had quite a few run ins with that crowd not liking his videos due to his results not being what they want it to be. They always make some claim that their Tesoro could do this or that just as good or better than anything out today. I'm betting he is wanting one on hand just to show that it can't. Tesoros were the thing back in the 1990s. That's what I had back then too. But just like dial up internet, huge plugged in car phones, and Nintendo...those things have been surpassed by far better technology.
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 04, 2018 03:42PM
Welgund Wrote:
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> He already did a test with a Vaquero up against th
> e Nox where the Vaquero performed as good or bette
> r. He already knows just how good the Vaq is. Ha
> ving one on hand with the 5.75 concentric coil is
> good thinking for the scenarios where it needed.
> I am a firm believer in a good Tesoro because I ha
> ve used them since 1993. I also have a CTX, Deus,
> Deeptech VGG, smart plus,MMK, MXT, all fun to use.
> Calabash, I would get the Vaq over the Tejon, it's
> GB is led finicky.


hot damn! who wooda thunk! ..ole' cal has had a change of heart! ..musta been that encounter with the "bar"

(h.h.!)
j.t.
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 04, 2018 04:41PM
Well not everything New is Best. For one Music today Sucks. You young fella's missed the Golden age on that one. I may be old but I saw bands like this so worth it to Me.
[youtu.be]
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 04, 2018 05:33PM
Go Pro Stop Recording!! LOL
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 04, 2018 05:54PM
88junior Wrote:
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> Go Pro Stop Recording!! LOL


Good one Morgan!----He'll be sayin that a lot "Y'all stop recording"----Ah said "STOP RECORDING"!!!!grinning smiley------I do kind of wish I would have kept my Bandito 2 Micromax though.----It was just like new & worked well at beepin.
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 04, 2018 07:04PM
Del I still have my big box Bandido II I bought when I first started metal detecting. And I just acquired a Tesoro Lobo Supertraq. Tesoros are fun beep and dig machines to use when you're burned out on looking at screens. They have a tendency to find stuff that you probably would pass over with other machines. My dream Tesoro would be a Vaquero with 2 tone audio low tone for iron high tone for every thing else. Kinda like the Lobo Supertraq is but lighter in weight.
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 04, 2018 07:45PM
I don't know what video welgund saw???? I want to test again . I keep getting the Tesoro guys saying this and that. If its true then more power to them and if its false there are gonna be some butt hurt folks...lol Cold or hot units! Got to love that. Poor quality control.
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 04, 2018 09:48PM
You stated in your Nox 800 Vaquero rap up video that the Vaq was a deep machine, separated from what you could tell, high conductors better then the Nox in iron but the Nox pulled ahead on low conductors. You stated that the Vaq, XP Deus HF and the Nox were the only machines to hit your loop earring. You stated that the only problem you had with the Vaq was it's single tone and no display.
Performance has always been there with the Vaq, I do wish it had that ed180 disc instead of the ED165 or so that it has to open up the lower iron range. Guess that's what the Tejon and Mojave are for. Doesn't matter any more though, looks like it's the end of a legend in treasure hunting.
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 04, 2018 09:52PM
Yeah I just saw that.
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 04, 2018 11:22PM
doesn't necessarily follow that a few layoffs means they will close their doors! they may be just reorganizing their company!
they will emerge stronger,and better!.god bless tesoro,and best of luck!

(h.h.!)
j.t.
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 04, 2018 11:27PM
Daniel Tn Wrote:
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> Welgund Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > He already did a test with a Vaquero up against
> th
> > e Nox where the Vaquero performed as good or bet
> te
> > r. He already knows just how good the Vaq is.
> Ha
> > ving one on hand with the 5.75 concentric coil i
> s
> > good thinking for the scenarios where it needed.
> > I am a firm believer in a good Tesoro because I
> ha
> > ve used them since 1993. I also have a CTX, Deu
> s,
> > Deeptech VGG, smart plus,MMK, MXT, all fun to us
> e.
> > Calabash, I would get the Vaq over the Tejon, it
> 's
> > GB is led finicky.
>
> You must have missed his post up above mine where
> he said he wanted one for special occasions, with
> suspense dots, and then quote "when I have it out
> with the Tesoro clan".
>
> That to me, is saying that he wants one on hand to
> stir the pot with and not to use. If you follow h
> is posts on other forums, he has had quite a few r
> un ins with that crowd not liking his videos due t
> o his results not being what they want it to be.
> They always make some claim that their Tesoro coul
> d do this or that just as good or better than anyt
> hing out today. I'm betting he is wanting one on
> hand just to show that it can't. Tesoros were the
> thing back in the 1990s. That's what I had back th
> en too. But just like dial up internet, huge plugg
> ed in car phones, and Nintendo...those things have
> been surpassed by far better technology.

With all due respect Daniel Tn I have to ask what can a detector with this so called far better technology find that a Tesoro can't.
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 05, 2018 12:05AM
Here is a video to show a few things the new tech can do. Go to the 7 min 15 second mark and you will see a few things.test
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 05, 2018 12:17AM
> With all due respect Daniel Tn I have to ask what
> can a detector with this so called far better tech
> nology find that a Tesoro can't.


It will give you a number that has a good chance of meaning absolutely nothing.
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 05, 2018 12:27AM
sounds like you got it all figured out genius!
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 05, 2018 12:32AM
Thanks.......I would call you one also, but you do a good job of that yourself.
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 05, 2018 12:39AM
To date.. the Vaquero is the deepest unit I’ve ever used super tuned. 15 inch quarter in clay! Albeit it was planted... but sill it’s nuts.
Only down side is it loves deep iron when ran on outer limits.

Anyone else have this issue with them?

XP Deus
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Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 05, 2018 04:07AM
SkiWhiz -- I'm not gonna argue about all this again. I've logged so many miles on this discussion since the F75 came out that I'm plum wore out with it. Calabash looks like he is trying to pick up where I left off with the discussion. I've posted who knows how many messages about it. This topic was the whole reason I started doing YouTube videos way back in the day...because I some how felt that if people couldn't grab ahold of what I was saying on the forums, that maybe if they saw it in a video with their own eyes and ears, that they would believe. Nope. All that brought was the hot/cold unit excuses.

In reality, a Tesoro is good down to about 5 inches here in my soil if you know what you are doing. Tops. Any machine that can punch beyond that will find things that the Tesoro units just can't. That's the sickening reality of it all. My first Tesoro was a Bandido II uMax, and that led me to an Eldorado uMax...then right on into the Shadow X2, then the Tejon and Vaquero. When I first started hunting, that's what everybody had locally. The local relic legends. I had to have what they had too and for many many years, I didn't know any different. We'd go research, find sites, hunt them, and in some we found stuff and in some we didn't. The sites we did find stuff in, we hunted til they didn't. The Vaquero did open up some areas though; I will say it was quite a jump from a Bandido II in terms of depth.

All that changed when I bought an F75. Suddenly those sites we had put a fork in for being done...weren't done at all. I had a yankee camp site that I had access to at the time...exclusive permission. I had dug the fire out of buttons on this place with the Tejon and didn't do bad on bullets either. I had hunted it quite hard with the stock Tejon coil and then got the larger coils for it and rehunted it. It finally quite producing. That was the first camp I took the F75 into..and this was before I even discovered how much better the all metal side of it was. My first time in there I went to the little camp and dug over 20 dropped 3 ring minie balls and a half dozen or so buttons. I still had the Tejon because I didn't trust the F75 yet. On those signals, I remember saying to myself that I wouldn't have dug any of them if I would have just had the Tejon. You can't dig what you can't hear!! This continued on at every site I had ever been to. The F75 got me my first plates too....all of them dug in hammered sites. But the big eye opener was the place I called bullet hill. Since we had found it, we had hunted it quite hard with Tejons, Vaqueros, and Shadow X5s. My uncle came up from GA and hunted it with his XLT and a buddy of his with his MXT. We found quite a few bullets in there with those machines but you had to work for what you got. When I figured out the F75's all metal mode...and that zinc bounce...holy crap that's when the eyes were opened. We've dug hundreds more bullets out of there with the T2s, F75s, etc. This is the spot I videoed the F75 vs Tejon video I did a long time ago......I marked a half dozen or more bullet signals with the F75 that the Tejon couldn't even register a snap, crackle, or a pop on. Then dug them to show what they were. After that video went up, I ended up having to go back down there and do it all over again at least 3 other times to passify all the haters...I headed them off with every way they tried to go with it. Different coils...their settings instead of mine...I even had to track down another Tejon to show that the one I had wasn't one of the fabled "cold" ones.

So for me as a relic hunter, the Tesoro line died when the F75 came out. I love hitting sites where the people say "we hunted that out years ago...".
Re: wtb a tejon or vaquero
October 05, 2018 09:15AM
Daniel Tn Wrote:
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> SkiWhiz -- I'm not gonna argue about all this aga
> in. I've logged so many miles on this discussion
> since the F75 came out that I'm plum wore out with
> it. Calabash looks like he is trying to pick up w
> here I left off with the discussion. I've posted
> who knows how many messages about it. This topic
> was the whole reason I started doing YouTube video
> s way back in the day...because I some how felt th
> at if people couldn't grab ahold of what I was say
> ing on the forums, that maybe if they saw it in a was
> video with their own eyes and ears, that they woul
> d believe. Nope. All that brought was the hot/col
> d unit excuses.
>
> In reality, a Tesoro is good down to about 5 inche
> s here in my soil if you know what you are doing.
> Tops. Any machine that can punch beyond that will
> find things that the Tesoro units just can't. Tha
> t's the sickening reality of it all. My first Te
> soro was a Bandido II uMax, and that led me to an
> Eldorado uMax...then right on into the Shadow X2,
> then the Tejon and Vaquero. When I first started
> hunting, that's what everybody had locally. The lo
> cal relic legends. I had to have what they had to
> o and for many many years, I didn't know any diffe
> rent. We'd go research, find sites, hunt them, an
> d in some we found stuff and in some we didn't. T
> he sites we did find stuff in, we hunted til they
> didn't. The Vaquero did open up some areas though
> ; I will say it was quite a jump from a Bandido II
> in terms of depth.
>
> All that changed when I bought an F75. Suddenly t
> hose sites we had put a fork in for being done...w
> eren't done at all. I had a yankee camp site that
> I had access to at the time...exclusive permission
> . I had dug the fire out of buttons on this place
> with the Tejon and didn't do bad on bullets either
> . I had hunted it quite hard with the stock Tejon
> coil and then got the larger coils for it and rehu
> nted it. It finally quite producing. That was th
> e first camp I took the F75 into..and this was bef
> ore I even discovered how much better the all meta
> l side of it was. My first time in there I went t
> o the little camp and dug over 20 dropped 3 ring m
> inie balls and a half dozen or so buttons. I stil
> l had the Tejon because I didn't trust the F75 yet
> . On those signals, I remember saying to myself t
> hat I wouldn't have dug any of them if I would hav
> e just had the Tejon. You can't dig what you can'
> t hear!! This continued on at every site I had e
> ver been to. The F75 got me my first plates too..
> ..all of them dug in hammered sites. But the big
> eye opener was the place I called bullet hill. Si
> nce we had found it, we had hunted it quite hard w
> ith Tejons, Vaqueros, and Shadow X5s. My uncle ca
> me up from GA and hunted it with his XLT and a bud
> dy of his with his MXT. We found quite a few bull
> ets in there with those machines but you had to wo
> rk for what you got. When I figured out the F75's
> all metal mode...and that zinc bounce...holy crap
> that's when the eyes were opened. We've dug hundr
> eds more bullets out of there with the T2s, F75s,
> etc. This is the spot I videoed the F75 vs Tejon
> video I did a long time ago......I marked a half d
> ozen or more bullet signals with the F75 that the
> Tejon couldn't even register a snap, crackle, or a
> pop on. Then dug them to show what they were. Af
> ter that video went up, I ended up having to go ba
> ck down there and do it all over again at least 3
> other times to passify all the haters...I headed t
> hem off with every way they tried to go with it.
> Different coils...their settings instead of mine..
> .I even had to track down another Tejon to show th
> at the one I had wasn't one of the fabled "cold" o
> nes.
>
> So for me as a relic hunter, the Tesoro line died
> when the F75 came out. I love hitting sites where
> the people say "we hunted that out years ago..."

Thank you Daniel, enjoyed your post & believe everything you said. I guess it is hard for an old timer like me to see something that you liked alot slowly slip away. Tesoro is like an old friend to me but facts are facts. Thanks again Daniel.