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ON THE HORIZON = MDT-8000
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Re: ON THE HORIZON = MDT-8000 June 22, 2019 05:12AM |
The first 100 hours....
Well that is what I calling it as I dive head first into the MDT-8000.
Hour #2
Hour #2 presented some very interesting targets. One "issue" I had with one target was kinda interesting. I got what I thought was a deep high tone that pin pointed small and consistently in the same spot. I thought "my first deep conductor!". I dug down 12" and zip in the bottom of the hole. Stood up and again swung with the exact same location dead center of the hole. Used my pin pointer and located a target at the top edge of the hole... A clad dime 3-1/2" down. Pulled that and re-swung over the hole again. This time nothing. In the pic below you can see the rough (was actually 1" in the side) position of the dime relative to the hole center.... Not sure how that happened but I have everything marked so I can replicate the issue and study it further.
This next target was kinda hilarious... I am building an "express easy target area" where I plan to have a simplified test section to use while I construct/dig the permanent test garden locations. I am going after one signal that was starting to get the best of me. Well this was why. A nice long old nail that of course was laying perfectly horizontal and pointing perfectly into the area of my temporary test location. (Remember those numerous nail(s) scenarios from Tom's "Inland Relic and Coin Hunting" video????) I had another hole where like above, had the target pin pointed.... Low and behold it was a nail laying flat and 8" or so away from the pin point spot.
Lastly the settings I am currently using. I am liking the "Mix" mode a fair bit. I need to dial in the multi tone settings in All Metal because I would really like to learn hearing everything in the ground and training my ears to discern ferrous and non-ferrous metals. Especially at depth.
salt 39 (I did not realize this function was activated/highlighted)
FC 6.4khz
TH -2
Dsc -1
Sens 6
GB 625
Last pic is my temporary test garden under construction. I am using both MDT and my goldmaxx to clean the area. Once I start digging each of the permanent test location areas, I will be doing the same thing except using a painters cloth to spread the dirt out and run my big Rare Earth magnate over it to really get the bits out. (Oh and I will be digging individual holes for each test spot-Not the "trench" approach)
Oh the stick I am using has the targets glued on in 14" centers. I have a silver dime, old copper token, a rusty nail, a dime and penny together and a dime with a modern screw next to it.
Really enjoying learning this machine. Don't get me wrong, it's work and slow going, but I know will be worth it in the end.
Peter
What was once impossible..... is now easy and obvious. BUT.......... if : You don't know...what you don't know........ it continues to appear/look impossible.
-Thomas Dankowski
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/22/2019 05:15PM by SilverPeter.
Well that is what I calling it as I dive head first into the MDT-8000.
Hour #2
Hour #2 presented some very interesting targets. One "issue" I had with one target was kinda interesting. I got what I thought was a deep high tone that pin pointed small and consistently in the same spot. I thought "my first deep conductor!". I dug down 12" and zip in the bottom of the hole. Stood up and again swung with the exact same location dead center of the hole. Used my pin pointer and located a target at the top edge of the hole... A clad dime 3-1/2" down. Pulled that and re-swung over the hole again. This time nothing. In the pic below you can see the rough (was actually 1" in the side) position of the dime relative to the hole center.... Not sure how that happened but I have everything marked so I can replicate the issue and study it further.
This next target was kinda hilarious... I am building an "express easy target area" where I plan to have a simplified test section to use while I construct/dig the permanent test garden locations. I am going after one signal that was starting to get the best of me. Well this was why. A nice long old nail that of course was laying perfectly horizontal and pointing perfectly into the area of my temporary test location. (Remember those numerous nail(s) scenarios from Tom's "Inland Relic and Coin Hunting" video????) I had another hole where like above, had the target pin pointed.... Low and behold it was a nail laying flat and 8" or so away from the pin point spot.
Lastly the settings I am currently using. I am liking the "Mix" mode a fair bit. I need to dial in the multi tone settings in All Metal because I would really like to learn hearing everything in the ground and training my ears to discern ferrous and non-ferrous metals. Especially at depth.
salt 39 (I did not realize this function was activated/highlighted)
FC 6.4khz
TH -2
Dsc -1
Sens 6
GB 625
Last pic is my temporary test garden under construction. I am using both MDT and my goldmaxx to clean the area. Once I start digging each of the permanent test location areas, I will be doing the same thing except using a painters cloth to spread the dirt out and run my big Rare Earth magnate over it to really get the bits out. (Oh and I will be digging individual holes for each test spot-Not the "trench" approach)
Oh the stick I am using has the targets glued on in 14" centers. I have a silver dime, old copper token, a rusty nail, a dime and penny together and a dime with a modern screw next to it.
Really enjoying learning this machine. Don't get me wrong, it's work and slow going, but I know will be worth it in the end.
Peter
What was once impossible..... is now easy and obvious. BUT.......... if : You don't know...what you don't know........ it continues to appear/look impossible.
-Thomas Dankowski
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/22/2019 05:15PM by SilverPeter.
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Re: ON THE HORIZON = MDT-8000 June 29, 2019 02:29AM |
The first 100 hours....
Well that is what I am calling it as I dive head first into the MDT-8000.
Hour #3-4
Great time learning this machine all the way around. Interesting thing happened yesterday which I will record if it happens again. When 9khz is activated the detector sounded off like I was right over an 110v electrical supply. I tried ground balancing and no luck. All the other frequencies were just fine and stable. Went out again to the same location and everything is normal sounding thru all freq's.
Sample of what I am finding... Crazy small targets coming out in the 3" to 5" range in depth. (Size comparisons for scale)
The last image above was one of my early successes. Iron and a conductor found together.
Below is an adaptation I am making to the cord. I have been having issues with the cord getting caught during my "energetic" digging method. Anyway I bought a short coil piece to act as a relief and so far so good. The cord is still hanging to low so will need to zip tie it up a bit to get it away from the coil. Also having issue with using the pin pointer button. I have to drop the MDT to severe right angle to hit the button. This of course tilts the coil and defeats the use of the PP mode. The work around I have found is to simply bring the opposite hand over to hit the PP button. (I just have to remember to bring the sheath for the digging tool)
Thanks all for reading!
Peter in Oregon.
What was once impossible..... is now easy and obvious. BUT.......... if : You don't know...what you don't know........ it continues to appear/look impossible.
-Thomas Dankowski
Well that is what I am calling it as I dive head first into the MDT-8000.
Hour #3-4
Great time learning this machine all the way around. Interesting thing happened yesterday which I will record if it happens again. When 9khz is activated the detector sounded off like I was right over an 110v electrical supply. I tried ground balancing and no luck. All the other frequencies were just fine and stable. Went out again to the same location and everything is normal sounding thru all freq's.
Sample of what I am finding... Crazy small targets coming out in the 3" to 5" range in depth. (Size comparisons for scale)
The last image above was one of my early successes. Iron and a conductor found together.
Below is an adaptation I am making to the cord. I have been having issues with the cord getting caught during my "energetic" digging method. Anyway I bought a short coil piece to act as a relief and so far so good. The cord is still hanging to low so will need to zip tie it up a bit to get it away from the coil. Also having issue with using the pin pointer button. I have to drop the MDT to severe right angle to hit the button. This of course tilts the coil and defeats the use of the PP mode. The work around I have found is to simply bring the opposite hand over to hit the PP button. (I just have to remember to bring the sheath for the digging tool)
Thanks all for reading!
Peter in Oregon.
What was once impossible..... is now easy and obvious. BUT.......... if : You don't know...what you don't know........ it continues to appear/look impossible.
-Thomas Dankowski
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Re: ON THE HORIZON = MDT-8000 July 03, 2019 04:54PM |
The first 100 hours....
Well that is what I am calling it as I dive head first into the MDT-8000.
Hour #5
My Finds from 2 separate spots. First off:
Wife had to run a few errands at a nearby city so got 45 minutes at a late 1800's era park. First went through the sand features to see how stable I could get the MDT running. Ran with black sand and had some interesting results. Using the P/P on targets is totally different than most other machines I am finding. The MDT will scream at targets that are 3-5" down. Hard to get use to but I am trying. The pic below shows 3 targets I isolated as best I could...
The iron bit was down 3.5". The '87 cent was down just under 5" and the pull tab down at nearly 6". Again-The P/P on the pull tab sounded though it was at or near the surface. I almost walked on but realized the tone was faint enough to tell me it was a target several inches down. (ie. not at the surface) In my old way of thinking, if I could hear a faint target, but could not get a P/P location for it, I would automatically dig that target.
Each target I ran thru all 3 modes to study/learn each of the sounds. Also I swing with 3 different cadences to hear how any given target changes tones. This is a huge one that I am going to find the most benefit.
The image below shows to me the crazy power the MDT has. In Mix mode (So far my favorite) I was getting the typical iron tone (first sound) followed by a faint but repeatable (mid) tone. It did not always repeat as I rotated around the target, BUT when it did sound off, it seemed to be in the same location. As I dug, sure enough a small rusty nail at just 3". Off to the side and down at 4-1/2" was the little mid tone sounding bit. (Does this scenario sound interesting to any relic hunters out there?!?!?!?!)
If you are wondering about the measurement, yes I carry a tape measure with as I document what/how I make my finds. My backyard which is where I am doing most of my learning on is not the best site. It is extremely iron infested with both nails and melted items. This house is just old enough for the days when people still burned/buried trash in their backyard. So as I clean sections out to create my test garden, I already am getting a great education in a super tuff location. Thanks all for reading. On we go.
Peter
What was once impossible..... is now easy and obvious. BUT.......... if : You don't know...what you don't know........ it continues to appear/look impossible.
-Thomas Dankowski
Well that is what I am calling it as I dive head first into the MDT-8000.
Hour #5
My Finds from 2 separate spots. First off:
Wife had to run a few errands at a nearby city so got 45 minutes at a late 1800's era park. First went through the sand features to see how stable I could get the MDT running. Ran with black sand and had some interesting results. Using the P/P on targets is totally different than most other machines I am finding. The MDT will scream at targets that are 3-5" down. Hard to get use to but I am trying. The pic below shows 3 targets I isolated as best I could...
The iron bit was down 3.5". The '87 cent was down just under 5" and the pull tab down at nearly 6". Again-The P/P on the pull tab sounded though it was at or near the surface. I almost walked on but realized the tone was faint enough to tell me it was a target several inches down. (ie. not at the surface) In my old way of thinking, if I could hear a faint target, but could not get a P/P location for it, I would automatically dig that target.
Each target I ran thru all 3 modes to study/learn each of the sounds. Also I swing with 3 different cadences to hear how any given target changes tones. This is a huge one that I am going to find the most benefit.
The image below shows to me the crazy power the MDT has. In Mix mode (So far my favorite) I was getting the typical iron tone (first sound) followed by a faint but repeatable (mid) tone. It did not always repeat as I rotated around the target, BUT when it did sound off, it seemed to be in the same location. As I dug, sure enough a small rusty nail at just 3". Off to the side and down at 4-1/2" was the little mid tone sounding bit. (Does this scenario sound interesting to any relic hunters out there?!?!?!?!)
If you are wondering about the measurement, yes I carry a tape measure with as I document what/how I make my finds. My backyard which is where I am doing most of my learning on is not the best site. It is extremely iron infested with both nails and melted items. This house is just old enough for the days when people still burned/buried trash in their backyard. So as I clean sections out to create my test garden, I already am getting a great education in a super tuff location. Thanks all for reading. On we go.
Peter
What was once impossible..... is now easy and obvious. BUT.......... if : You don't know...what you don't know........ it continues to appear/look impossible.
-Thomas Dankowski
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Re: ON THE HORIZON = MDT-8000 July 04, 2019 07:39PM |
The first 100 hours....
Well that is what I am calling it as I dive head first into the MDT-8000.
Hour #6
I have to jump in here and first thank Tom for the great comment above. Much appreciated!!
I don't have much time today to be online, but had to pass this little gem along... Last night spent some more time training and got a strange signal next to my temporary test garden. About 10" from my Merc dime spot (9-1/2" down) was a deep sounding mixed tone(s) that I had trouble locating. Well yeah I had trouble since it was 8.5-9" down! Anyway I got a couple pics from the area and wanted to also note: While I may or may not have heard those rusty staples, the fact the MDT could pick those out of my handfulls of dirt was pretty amazing. (I mean really amazing) Pictured is a complete staple, the other portions of the staples I found must still be in my finds bag.
This is not a small point I am making... Under many other detectors, I would have completely missed those as they would have been nulled out. The point is I ALSO would have missed anything else good in that handfull of dirt via masking. I am 100's of hours away form really seeing all the good that a machine like this can do. But so far I am really amazed at the ability to find small conductors among iron/trash, and at depth.
Peter
What was once impossible..... is now easy and obvious. BUT.......... if : You don't know...what you don't know........ it continues to appear/look impossible.
-Thomas Dankowski
Well that is what I am calling it as I dive head first into the MDT-8000.
Hour #6
I have to jump in here and first thank Tom for the great comment above. Much appreciated!!
I don't have much time today to be online, but had to pass this little gem along... Last night spent some more time training and got a strange signal next to my temporary test garden. About 10" from my Merc dime spot (9-1/2" down) was a deep sounding mixed tone(s) that I had trouble locating. Well yeah I had trouble since it was 8.5-9" down! Anyway I got a couple pics from the area and wanted to also note: While I may or may not have heard those rusty staples, the fact the MDT could pick those out of my handfulls of dirt was pretty amazing. (I mean really amazing) Pictured is a complete staple, the other portions of the staples I found must still be in my finds bag.
This is not a small point I am making... Under many other detectors, I would have completely missed those as they would have been nulled out. The point is I ALSO would have missed anything else good in that handfull of dirt via masking. I am 100's of hours away form really seeing all the good that a machine like this can do. But so far I am really amazed at the ability to find small conductors among iron/trash, and at depth.
Peter
What was once impossible..... is now easy and obvious. BUT.......... if : You don't know...what you don't know........ it continues to appear/look impossible.
-Thomas Dankowski
