Are these recent detectors truly innovative or creative in design?

texkinzee Wrote:
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> If I have to provide a list then that would not ma
> ke any sense to me because the last detector that
> was a true departure form the norm is the XP Deus.
> Very innovative and creative.


Really? XP DEUS is your definition of innovation and "recent" Hate to burst your bubble, but that tech is now about a decade old. Also, even though XP is a quality detector it isnt innovative. Moving the controller electronics from the head to the coil then making a wireless connection back up to a display head is creating un-needed complexity, additional batteries to charge/fail/replace. The change also made the detector useless with the coil under water without adding yet another bit of kit (your wire you hate so much). Even though the DEUS is great for high-trash areas its useless in an ocean environment

So in other words, your "innovation" is merely needless complexity and reduced performance.

The non inline pinpointers (namely Garrett) made the SunRay hurt for money. People saw they could buy one probe for $100 or less and use it with all their machines, vs having to buy a specific SunRay for every machine...IF it was even available for it. Not only that, but they didn't have to attach those to the machine itself...clip it on a belt or throw it in the dig pouch, good to go. Would an updated version be a hit? I'm not sure if it were just compatible with one machine...especially if it were priced higher than the normal probes out today. I know I wouldn't be interested in one. I hop around detectors too much I guess. I had one on an Explorer II, and an F75 but much prefer a TRX to those.

silverfiend Wrote:
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> texkinzee Wrote:
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> -----
> > If I have to provide a list then that would not
> ma
> > ke any sense to me because the last detector tha
> t
> > was a true departure form the norm is the XP Deu
> s.
> > Very innovative and creative.
>
>
> Really? XP DEUS is your definition of innovation
> and "recent" Hate to burst your bubble, but that
> tech is now about a decade old. Also, even though
> XP is a quality detector it isnt innovative. Mov
> ing the controller electronics from the head to th
> e coil then making a wireless connection back up t
> o a display head is creating un-needed complexity,
> additional batteries to charge/fail/replace. The
> change also made the detector useless with the coi
> l under water without adding yet another bit of ki
> t (your wire you hate so much). Even though the D
> EUS is great for high-trash areas its useless in a
> n ocean environment
>
> So in other words, your "innovation" is merely nee
> dless complexity and reduced performance.

Well,
Xp has indeed left a BIG mark inside the detecting industry for such a young detector manufacturer. One of the youngest actually,
For a metered detector it is still the LIGHTEST out there.
This lightweight has kept a lot of old timers in the detecting game.
Some manufacturers if you’ll notice are still trying to keep up with Deus with their supposed old tech as you call it.
And electronic upgradable platform, the first in the business performed by owner.
Performance in iron is remarkable. Was and still is. ALL coils too.
Not an end all unit but certainly a worthy unit.

Seems durability is good too. I have followed this unit closely since its intro into USA, the units are for the most part trouble free.
I still own 2 units and 5 coils if I am counting correctly.
This is no mistake either for me having the Xp equipment and holding on to.
I have used and it WORKS.
You get it in the right sites and BOOM baby.

I have other manufacturers equipment too.

When I receive a new unit and want to see how well it performs in iron, guess which unit is pulled out of my arsenal and used for the “standard”?
The mighty Deus!!
And for good reason !!
See this link.
[www.findmall.com]
First page.
Open the pic reflecting Gulfport Ms boot camp pic. The Indiana pic too.
What do you see?
I see some old timers in the pic who are glad to have the light weight Deus to use.



Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 11/03/2018 10:36AM by tnsharpshooter.

silverfiend Wrote:
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> texkinzee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If I have to provide a list then that would not
> ma
> > ke any sense to me because the last detector tha
> t
> > was a true departure form the norm is the XP Deu
> s.
> > Very innovative and creative.
>
>
> Really? XP DEUS is your definition of innovation
> and "recent" Hate to burst your bubble, but that
> tech is now about a decade old. Also, even though
> XP is a quality detector it isnt innovative. Mov
> ing the controller electronics from the head to th
> e coil then making a wireless connection back up t
> o a display head is creating un-needed complexity,
> additional batteries to charge/fail/replace. The
> change also made the detector useless with the coi
> l under water without adding yet another bit of ki
> t (your wire you hate so much). Even though the D
> EUS is great for high-trash areas its useless in a
> n ocean environment
>
> So in other words, your "innovation" is merely nee
> dless complexity and reduced performance.

OK. Complex? The Cointrax Baron was complex. Some found the Whites Spectrum Complex when it first came out. What the beauty of the Deus is ,like a few others, it can be constantly updated. My version 5.2 is allot better then 3.1 when I first got one. Maybe one day it will be better on the salt water. Maybe this new update can? Besides I use a Sov.. on the beach. Oh yeah BBS was truly Innovative and Creative. So was a Whites 6DB. Motion disc. Did you know that during the Spanish Inquisition you could use witching rods to pick out criminals? Hell even they found that extreme. Keep digging guy with scary name.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/03/2018 10:50AM by texkinzee.

You seem awfully motivated to defend one particular machine after asking for opinions on innovation. You did point out something I forgot, yes, XP did give us a user upgrade-able detector and really was a step forward in the game.

I will not defend any brand. I have only ties to the hot ground and colonial iron beds I hunt. Keep digging.

silverfiend Wrote:
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> You seem awfully motivated to defend one particula
> r machine after asking for opinions on innovation
> . You did point out something I forgot, yes, XP d
> id give us a user upgrade-able detector and really
> was a step forward in the game.


They also have someone I have know for many years who has the Skill School. I think if your new to the Deus these videos can be very helpful unlike some other manufactures brief introductions. And they never start with OMG.

I am still waiting for that detector that can tell the difference between aluminum and gold!

James/Texas Wrote:
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> I am still waiting for that detector that can tell
> the difference between aluminum and gold!

Im not waiting!
I just take my Compadre to the park,
dig lots of foil and slaw and find the gold mixed in!
By the time the “magic” detector shows up
the gold will all be gone! LOL