11 reasons why not to buy a TESORO...

calabash digger Wrote:
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> I post on forums where its moderated. YouTube is a
> wild west show.

Yea, but your not allowing the majority of people which don't frequent forums anymore to interact with you. On your videos your the moderator and can remove comments as needed. Just don't see many people on YouTube limiting interaction with their watchers. It kind of seems like the point of putting videos on there to begin with would be to interact with others. Not sure if your channel is monetized or anything but it seems like your handicapping the growth of your channel. Just my point of view.

BTW I just watched your video. Man I would be ticked off if I got that detector. That's pretty crazy it picked up all the other stuff but not the silver. Also you made some very valid points.

calabash digger Wrote:
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> Ok making a negative comment about a detector or d
> etector brand is now talking down to others. What
> a politically correct society we live in. The posi
> tive ground balance might be the culprit but try s
> ending it back to get it worked on. To clear it up
> I don't make any money selling detectors.
>
>
> The point of the video is Tesoro has a cult like f
> ollowing on here and I cant for the life of me fig
> ure out why.


No question the Tesoro was defective. Happens to the best of them.. You certainly must have realized that. I'm not a Tesoro user but I have friends who are and I'm telling you they pull the relics out of the ground. Just wondering by posting this video in the way you did, did it help you figure out why it has a cult like following.

No still don't understand it. I found out it was defective when I started doing the video. It being defective on the silver coin didn't affect the point I was trying to get across. The point is this there are better options out there for the beginner and seasoned hunter in this day and age. If a person wants to hunt with a 1 tone analog machine that's their business. I am really trying to reach the new comers and let them look at the information and make their own decisions.

I wonder though what age group mostly makes up Tesoro users? Anyone know?

calabash digger Wrote:
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> No still don't understand it. I found out it was d
> efective when I started doing the video. It being
> defective on the silver coin didn't affect the poi
> nt I was trying to get across. The point is this t
> here are better options out there for the beginner
> and seasoned hunter in this day and age. If a pers
> on wants to hunt with a 1 tone analog machine that
> 's their business. I am really trying to reach the
> new comers and let them look at the information an
> d make their own decisions.
>
> I wonder though what age group mostly makes up Tes
> oro users? Anyone know? I don't know but am guessing the older age group, I am 57.

SkiWhiz Wrote:
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> Don't know how many Tesoro's you have owned and us
> ed but I have never had one that wouldn't hit on a
> silver coin. Why even post a video like this even
> if you don't like Tesoro products. What comes to
> my mind is having a downed dog and kicking him.


down,but not out for the count! .they are still hard at it!
i agree!.never heard of a tesoro that could not find silver!
ole' cal musta been on a different med when he made this one!
ehe! he! he!

(h.h.!)
j.t.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/10/2018 03:44AM by jmaryt.

marcomo Wrote:
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> I wouldn't argue for a second that the Equinox isn
> 't a better and more versatile detector than a Cib
> ola.
>
> But what is the point of the video? Why do you ca
> re what detector somebody else uses if you don't h
> ave a financial stake in it? And what are you pro
> ving by posting a video of an obviously defective
> Cibola? The Cibola was my first detector and I mo
> ved on from it in fairly short order, but you defi
> nitely had an improper one if it wouldn't detect a
> silver quarter. I'm thinking the factory preset G
> B was probably way too positive.
>
> Calabash, you are an intelligent guy and a quick s
> tudy when it comes to metal detecting. But when y
> ou talk down to others who choose to detect with d
> ifferent equipment, you are not showing the "calab
> ash digger" brand in a positive light.


hear!..hear!.what he say!

(h.h.!)
j.t.

calabash digger Wrote:
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> Ok making a negative comment about a detector or d
> etector brand is now talking down to others. What
> a politically correct society we live in. The posi
> tive ground balance might be the culprit but try s
> ending it back to get it worked on. To clear it up
> I don't make any money selling detectors.
>
>
> The point of the video is Tesoro has a cult like f
> ollowing on here and I cant for the life of me fig
> ure out why.

it's "simple" ole ' cal! ..tesoro's for years, have found good stuff in the ground!..period!..and they continue to do so!..what he said!

(h.h.!)
j.t.

Mike Hillis Wrote:
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> I can understand the obvious anger at Tesoro that
> comes out in the video for a out of box defective
> unit. That ground balance is waaaaaaay positive.
> Methinks Tesoro was having morale problems before
> the layoff for someone to pass that through to shi
> pping. Dressing it up in a comparison to the EQ
> made you look like a mushroom, though.
>
> I don't have any great love for Tesoro. The main
> reason I keep a Tesoro around is because of the Cl
> eansweep coil. I can't get that coil size anywher
> e else. I wish I could. Fisher won't build on
> e. Nokta/Makro won't build one. MARS/CORS/DETE
> CH won't build one. So we are stuck with Tesoro.
> And Thankfully, they did.
>
> HH
> Mike


awwww! c'mon mike! admit it!..ya just loved how the tesoros hunt! along with that 'smooth" analog audio! now fess up!

(h.h.!)
j.t.

calabash digger Wrote:
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> LOL another reason NOT to buy a Tesoro unit. Got a
> new unit that cant be sent back to fixed. Over 300
> .00 list price. If your a newbie and reading this
> don't buy one there are better choices out there a
> t this time.


hell's a fire! ole' cal! you made a video of a 'defective" tesoro,
and ya got stung too! hot damn! man! take a deep breath,and
reevaluate your thought processes!

(h.h.!)
j.t.

Dan-Pa. Wrote:
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> Say what you may but they can detect audio varianc
> es and just luv gold jewelry.....sad to see any bu
> siness close...period.....


"dead nuts!" true!..dan!..in fact,the mojave,and the compadre
is the best "value to cost ratio" in the game for that!

(h.h.!)
j.t.

I wondered how long it would be before the SUPER DUPER fanboy should up....

If you want a dig all MD then Tesoro is for you. I mean you dig all above ferrous don't you? My first MD was a Silver UMax and carried a small screwdriver to adjust the GB and there are videos on how to put a dial on for it. I put a 4" puck on mine and found 25 gold rings in the parks in the first six months I had it. Called pole bumping. I could never reproduce that style of hunting with another MD even with a small coil. They have a fast recovery for the money. The Golden UMax is the best. With the clean sweep coil you had the coverage for ball fields and less trashy places and I still regret selling them but got an offer to good to turn down. Tesoro closed shop Oct. 1st. So much for lifetime warranty.

Last I heard only production of new machines stopped. The service department is still working.

HIGH VDI posted on tnet he has a conquistador that wont hit a silver dime either.

12th Reason: If you come home and find your wife in bed with a Tesoro.

"To clear it up I don't make any money selling detectors." Maybe not, but do you make "any money" from your YouTube channel? I'm guessing a lot of thought went into that "catchy" video subject/ title. Probably getting pretty tough to come up with something new, that hasn't already been beat to death.

Bingo.......its not about detectors......the old bait still works evidently.



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I was thinking about something yesterday:If you are a youtubers willing to get more tubers,then may get freebies and maybe cash.Will you advertise Tesoro.......not really because you won't get anything........... not a sausage.The new detectorist won't even know Tesoro if they ceased to produce detectors a lot go people won't buy anymore,anyway i still got 4 and i will keep them.I just found them fun to use even if they are more toy looking.......


RR

I don't make any money from YOUTUBE or detectors. The fact of the matter is we have a successful Seafood Restaurant and I don't need the money . So im not tempted to sell myself out to metal detecting companies just to promote their products. I promote products that I like and the ones I don't like well you can see what I do about those. I make videos because I like doing videos.

calabash digger Wrote:
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> I wondered how long it would be before the SUPER D
> UPER fanboy should up....


well! ol' cal!..not just me,but "thousands" of others too!
ehe! he! he! he!

(h.h.!)
j.t.

calabash digger Wrote:
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> I don't make any money from YOUTUBE or detectors.
> The fact of the matter is we have a successful Sea
> food Restaurant and I don't need the money . So im
> not tempted to sell myself out to metal detecting
> companies just to promote their products. I promot
> e products that I like and the ones I don't like w
> ell you can see what I do about those. I make vide
> os because I like doing videos.


You promote products that you like and trash the ones you don't like cause you like doing videos.wow. Kinda like CNN ain't it. Man I wish you hadn't written those last 2 sentences.

Ok I guess I should not say anything negative about any detector as it might hurt some peoples feelings......alright alright you can all have first place blue ribbon for just showing up. lol

Seafood Digger

Tesoro’s are old tech,... period. And well they probably have some problems at the factory right now.
But it is a metal detector that detects metal and needs a qualified tech to help it achieve its goal.
Somebody needs to fix it.

From the threads on this forum and the general look of their website, a dinosoar on the brink of extinction and well,... you just helped out to further hasten that fate.

Sure do hope you can cary some pride in that, in stead of fixing it.

Next time they do any roadworks to get to and from your dinner plate.
Just hope there is a NUMNUT on YouCr@p telling people not to go to your dinner plate for umpteen reasons.

You Sir are a TART of an entrepreneur with Zéro empathy for the fate of others,.. go choke on a Shrimp!

HH
Johnb

MAM Wrote:
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> "To clear it up I don't make any money selling detectors." Maybe not, but do you make "any money" from your YouTube channel? I'm guessing a lot of thought went into that "catchy" video subject/ title.
> Probably getting pretty tough to come up with some thing new, that hasn't already been beat to death.

I'm not defending Cal Digger, don't have a dog in this race, personally I could care less about Tesoros, and it seems that people are way too emotionally attached to them (each to their own, use what works for you, heck I'd use a magnet on a stick if it found what I was after!), but unless you're getting millions of views on your YouTube vids, any money paid to you IF you decide to monetize your videos with commercials is a pittance.

I do find it a bit odd that you've been here for two years and have all of 12 posts to your name...



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Despite having owned a couple of Tesoros (still have a Tejon), I have to agree with Calabash on there being detectors out there that are both easier to learn on and offering better value for money at this point in time. Yes Tesoro detectors do offer nuances that can help out with target identification, depth and sizing, though can be a reasonably steep learning curve for those new to single tone detectors. Some find the leaning curve fun and simply a part of learning to use a Tesoro, though others may find it frustrating and simply not have the patience and prefer more instant results from other brands/models.

Can't blame anyone else for Tesoro's current predicament other than themselves, the writing has been on the wall for a long time. Those that still use Tesoro detectors and know them inside out will continue to make great finds, though if you take a newbie's perspective, purchasing a Tesoro detector leaves many unanswered questions on support, parts and servicing, and they should be made aware of such. I can sympathise with re-sellers being left with excess stock to move, especially with the current uncertainties, though they should probably offer a disclaimer regarding Tesoro's situation for those unaware.

I for one would hate to pay full price for a detector only to find I had no support or warranty after the fact, and you do have to remember that if you do not frequent forums, then you may well be completely unaware that Tesoro had even stopped producing detectors.

As for whether you like/dislike Calabash's You Tube clip, nobody forces you to watch these things, best to just agree to disagree and move on. If your Tesoro does the job for you, then that is all that matters.

Aurelic Wrote:
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> Despite having owned a couple of Tesoros (still ha
> ve a Tejon), I have to agree with Calabash on ther
> e being detectors out there that are both easier t
> o learn on and offering better value for money at
> this point in time. Yes Tesoro detectors do offer
> nuances that can help out with target identificati
> on, depth and sizing, though can be a reasonably s
> teep learning curve for those new to single tone d
> etectors. Some find the leaning curve fun and sim
> ply a part of learning to use a Tesoro, though oth
> ers may find it frustrating and simply not have th
> e patience and prefer more instant results from ot
> her brands/models.
>
> Can't blame anyone else for Tesoro's current predi
> cament other than themselves, the writing has been
> on the wall for a long time. Those that still use
> Tesoro detectors and know them inside out will con
> tinue to make great finds, though if you take a ne
> wbie's perspective, purchasing a Tesoro detector l
> eaves many unanswered questions on support, parts
> and servicing, and they should be made aware of su
> ch. I can sympathise with re-sellers being left w
> ith excess stock to move, especially with the curr
> ent uncertainties, though they should probably off
> er a disclaimer regarding Tesoro's situation for t
> hose unaware.
>
> I for one would hate to pay full price for a detec
> tor only to find I had no support or warranty afte
> r the fact, and you do have to remember that if yo
> u do not frequent forums, then you may well be com
> pletely unaware that Tesoro had even stopped produ
> cing detectors.
>
> As for whether you like/dislike Calabash's You Tub
> e clip, nobody forces you to watch these things, b
> est to just agree to disagree and move on. If you
> r Tesoro does the job for you, then that is all th
> at matters.


Great post,it’s everything I was just going to type! Tesoro’s have long been the ultimate “beep and dig” machine,when people say BEEP n DIG this is the brand of machine we think of. The fullness,or “roundness” of the signal along with modulated audio are the “nuances”,after that it’s about where the disc is set. There IS nothing else,IMHO. My IDXPro is also a monotone machine,but also offers visual info with an 8 segment meter. Even at that,they went by the wayside as soon as mutli-tone machines came to be,because then you could hunt “wide open” and HEAR all of the info. I really never use the IDX anymore,and the Compadre I have has about 1/2 an hour on it. Today’s offerings are just that far ahead,it’s not a bad thing.
I don’t think CD is attempting to hammer any nails in Tesoro’s ready made coffin,rather...trying to stimulate the conversation of WHY someone would choose to hunt with one over something else which is leaps and bounds better at “targeted hunting”. Price aside,weight aside,warranty aside,battery consumption aside....they aren’t a player in any game I’M playing.

scoopjohnb Wrote:
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> Seafood Digger
>
> Tesoro’s are old tech,... period. And well they pr
> obably have some problems at the factory right now
> .
> But it is a metal detector that detects metal and
> needs a qualified tech to help it achieve its goal
> .
> Somebody needs to fix it.
>
> From the threads on this forum and the general loo
> k of their website, a dinosoar on the brink of ext
> inction and well,... you just helped out to furthe
> r hasten that fate.
>
> Sure do hope you can cary some pride in that, in s
> tead of fixing it.
>
> Next time they do any roadworks to get to and from
> your dinner plate.
> Just hope there is a NUMNUT on YouCr@p telling peo
> ple not to go to your dinner plate for umpteen rea
> sons.
>
> You Sir are a TART of an entrepreneur with Zéro em
> pathy for the fate of others,.. go choke on a Shri
> mp!

Personal attacks like this would get you banned from most other forums... and rightfully so. Totally uncalled for.

You act like he just called your wife ugly or your kids stupid. Get a grip. If you had any balls at all you would apologize...I predict you won't.

Tesoro's fate was sealed by their own hand. Calabash Digger's video just highlighted why. You said it yourself...they were a dinosaur. So, you obviously realize that they were headed for extinction yet you want to lay blame on one man's opinion (with which many agree) for hastening thier demise? BTW, there is no love lost around town for Tesoro as they did thier employees dirty. Perhaps you should take your misplaced anger out on Tesoro's management instead of a man merely expressing his opinion.

Dean



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bado1 Wrote:
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> scoopjohnb Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Seafood Digger
> >
> > Tesoro’s are old tech,... period. And well they
> pr
> > obably have some problems at the factory right n
> ow
> > .
> > But it is a metal detector that detects metal an
> d
> > needs a qualified tech to help it achieve its go
> al
> > .
> > Somebody needs to fix it.
> >
> > From the threads on this forum and the general l
> oo
> > k of their website, a dinosoar on the brink of e
> xt
> > inction and well,... you just helped out to furt
> he
> > r hasten that fate.
> >
> > Sure do hope you can cary some pride in that, in
> s
> > tead of fixing it.
> >
> > Next time they do any roadworks to get to and fr
> om
> > your dinner plate.
> > Just hope there is a NUMNUT on YouCr@p telling p
> eo
> > ple not to go to your dinner plate for umpteen r
> ea
> > sons.
> >
> > You Sir are a TART of an entrepreneur with Zéro
> em
> > pathy for the fate of others,.. go choke on a Sh
> ri
> > mp!
>
> Personal attacks like this would get you banned fr
> om most other forums... and rightfully so. Totally
> uncalled for.
>
> You act like he just called your wife ugly or your
> kids stupid. Get a grip. If you had any balls at a
> ll you would apologize...I predict you won't.
>
> Tesoro's fate was sealed by their own hand. Calaba
> sh Digger's video just highlighted why. You said i
> t yourself...they were a dinosaur. So, you obvious
> ly realize that they were headed for extinction ye
> t you want to lay blame on one man's opinion (with
> which many agree) for hastening thier demise? BTW,
> there is no love lost around town for Tesoro as th
> ey did thier employees dirty. Perhaps you should t
> ake your misplaced anger out on Tesoro's managemen
> t instead of a man merely expressing his opinion.
>
> Dean

I personally feel no need to apologize. I happen to like analog beep & dig detectors and don't care for digital detectors with a display. I don't do videos but if I did I could film a defective Minelab Xterra 705 for example against a properly working Tesoro Tejon for example and tell everyone especially new people entering the hobby why a beep & dig is better. I do agree that Tesoro was wrong for they what they did to their employees.



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SkiWhiz,

He should apologize for his uncalled for personal attack on CD.
Nobody should apologize for thier preference of machines. To each thier own.

Dean