Fisher's soon to be released machine... Interesting!!!

I suspect updating is not on the program. They worked about 6 years to get it right.

They are no doubt busy creating other “wunderwaffen” for other applications. The whole history of user software updates for metal detectors is frankly a bit of a mess.

Rick Kempf
Gold Canyon AZ- where there is no gold

Harold,ILL. Wrote:
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> Yep but at 2500.00 dollars only big money guys like Ole' Cal and Daniel will be able to afford it. Ha!

I think anybody sporting a couple excaliburs, an ATX, a CTX 3030, a TDI, a GPX 4500 or similar are going to be considering an Impulse, just like they've likely been considering an MDT 8000.

Rich

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Just one more good target before I go.

Rich - rich or not, I think you are spot on with this.

If this thing really does what they say it does - how would any hardcore beach gold seeker not buy one?

Rick Kempf
Gold Canyon AZ- where there is no gold

youdig Wrote:
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> Maybe your hobbie are little bit on a upper class
> side if you ask me (and your just missing yatching
> lol, and buying supercars)... , skating is cheaper
> , bike riding cheaper ( depend what bike you use t
> ho) , drone racing cheaper, surfing cheaper, swimm
> ing hell cheaper, computer gaming, retrogaming, ro
> leplaying, painting , drawing and so on i have ple
> nty of other exemples .
>
>

All of those things you mentioned can be way more expensive than metal detecting, AND detecting can be dirt cheap if you want it to be. All hobbies have the same thing in common, the better you want to be, the better the equipment you have to buy which makes it more expensive.

All specialized bibcycles can be thousands and they need constant maintenance and upgrades and repair.
computer gaming cheap? Are you smoking dope? Apparently youve never seen the dedicated, custom built gaming systems.

Go FT!
I wonder how long it would take them to come up with a red clay model. Could it be a Deus Smacker?

Mike Hillis Wrote:
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> It is like most things, People on the outside loo
> king in don't understand. If you don't hunt go
> ld, you don't understand gold, nor do you understa
> nd how much of it there is to find ALL THE TIME
> . Normal mindset.
> If I was a beach hunter I'd be totally pumped abou
> t both the Manta and the MDT-8000.
>
> HH
> Mike

this is true!..as long as people keep going' to the beach get in to the water,and swim around,they will lose rings! why? most just forget to take 'em off,and the water shrinks the skin,dumpin' the ring in the drink! happening now,happened 150 years ago,and will continue to happen guaranteed!

(h.h.!)
j.t.

believe it or not!,unless you are a 'dedicated" beach hunter,
smart money says wait for the land version which is sure to follow! a p.i. that discriminates?..gotta be a coin version coming too! i'm just sayin'

(h.h.!)
j.t.

muddydogz Wrote:
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> While I have no use for it no beaches anywhere nea
> r, but it looks like it will be a great machine fo
> r the beach hunters. I'm just glad to see Fisher j
> umping back in the mix as the US companies seem to
> be falling behind here lately on innovation. Hope
> it works out well.
> I can see this opening up the relic sites in bad
> ground.

Not without a ground balance.

So this Fisher Impulse AQ is the Manta or two diffrent models ??

The new name for "Manta"..... is probably going to be "Impulse". ……… and this would be the old/nostalgic/resurrected name of the 1990's Fisher Impulse.



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NASA-Tom Wrote:
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> The new name for "Manta"..... is probably going to
> be "Impulse". ……… and this would be the old/nos
> talgic/resurrected name of the 1990's Fisher Impul
> se.


This is shocking to me (if this indeed is true). If this new model is standout model performance wise doing something(s) others even the older Impulse couldn’t do.
My self I would have chosen an entirely new name.
I sure wouldn’t want this new model confused in the least with the older model.
And the internet when searching seems could allow for this.
I have already been doing goggle searches and yep this old dinosaur impulse pops up.

A nice new shiny object that performs needs a new shiny name in my book.
But what do I know.

What was wrong with Manta?
Internet already becoming somewhat saturated with that particular name. This is/ or was a good thing.

First Texas needs to polish their internet and social media applications. Just saying.
This site here is really a disgrace.
When one looks at the news subforum heading data. Nothing posted in a long time. Nothing even about this new detector that is coming.
[www.fisherlab.com]

I just call balls balls and strikes strikes opinion wise.
Have nothing personally against First Texas.
If I can see this I am sure others can too.

Liltle more opinion here.
Why in the world did First Texas give the exact same model designation to dst F75 units ? They IDed the same as the older non dst units. Actually didn’t even put stickers on older units later upgraded with dst. They didn’t do with my unit that was upgraded. Just adds to confusion overall. Maybe this was a cost savings. I still don’t approve.
Seems using the Impuse name is doing something similar imo.



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In my opinion this detector will be a major factor on the hobby detector side of First Texas.

I hope it kicks butt.

FT has a lot of room for improvement. I've been waiting something like 15 years for them to make a modern CZ beach detector and it never appeared. Why pass up such a huge part of the hobby? Beach detecting must be 50% or more of detectors worldwide. Now they've skipped right over the CZ platform to go with the new Impulse. This seems to be a good move as long as it lives up to the claims. Hopefully this is the machine I've been waiting for. I hope we don't have to go through what we did with the Equinox releasing a few every week over a six month period.

NASA-Tom Wrote:
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> The new name for "Manta"..... is probably going to
> be "Impulse". ……… and this would be the old/nos
> talgic/resurrected name of the 1990's Fisher Impul
> se.

I for one think that is cool to name it the Impulse.
Eventhough it wasn't one of the Original Fishers most popular units I love Nostalgia. Yeah I am old but not dead yet anyway.



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Since they have made it clear that this is merely the first of a series of specialized detectors for different applications, it made little sense to continue with a name strongly associated with the sea. The original project was AquaManta. Then there would have to be a “TerraManta” or “NuggetManta” and “RelicManta”. It gets pretty silly.

Now they just have to have the Impulse AQ, Impulse TA, Impulse Whatever, etc. Makes more sense. Of course, it remains to be seen what kind of performance this platform can have with true ground balance capable of coping with tough soils like Culpepper VA not to mention places in Australia where the earth is nearly solid iron minerals.

Rick Kempf
Gold Canyon AZ- where there is no gold

Then Impulse AQ-LTD for the bipolar-coil model.... or maybe AQ+ ?

I'm not a fan of the new names, TBH. It could be worse, though ... here in the U.K, Ford produced two family cars that shared names with popular porno magazines - Escort and Fiesta.

youdig Wrote:

> Maybe your hobbie are little bit on a upper class
> side if you ask me (and your just missing yatching
> lol, and buying supercars)... , skating is cheaper
> , bike riding cheaper ( depend what bike you use t
> ho) , drone racing cheaper, surfing cheaper, swimm
> ing hell cheaper, computer gaming, retrogaming, ro
> leplaying, painting , drawing and so on i have ple
> nty of other exemples .
>
>
> @Daniel_tn "Metal detecting...when the best equi
> p you can buy is south of $3,000. You fellas will
> have to get out and use it to pay for itsel
> f though. "
> ill correct this sentence by "to get out and work
> overtime to pay for itself though" at least in e
> urope... you can still go hunt gold in either afri
> ca and australia to try to make a living of it ...



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youdig --- ALL of those hobbies you mentioned can be done at entry level for cheap or high end level for more expensive costs. Metal detecting is the same way...you can go buy a Ace 250 or GO Find for under $200 and be off and running with a metal detector. Nobody forces you to buy the best and most expensive equipment but it is kind of understood (or at least I thought it was) that for top end equipment, you are gonna have to dish out some extra $$ for it.

NASA-Tom Wrote:
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> The new name for "Manta"..... is probably going to
> be "Impulse". ……… and this would be the old/nos
> talgic/resurrected name of the 1990's Fisher Impul
> se.


Spot on for the name Tom!

And a befitting name and a good homage towards Dave Johnson.

Keith

“I don't care that they stole my idea . . I care that they don't have any of their own”
-Nikola Tesla

fisher is a "very smart" company...they 'know" that with the passing years,less and less land finds are being made,so why not try to get experienced detectorists to hunt the water?.you really don't need a degree in economics to figure this out!
smart money says develop a "ring chaser" with the next technology to be exploited "pulse induction!"..their timing is terrific,and there are tons of "converts" out there ready to try something new! beach hunting for rings!..i'm just sayin

(h.h.!)
j.t.'

tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> NASA-Tom Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The new name for "Manta"..... is probably going
> to
> > be "Impulse". ……… and this would be the old/n
> os
> > talgic/resurrected name of the 1990's Fisher Imp
> ul
> > se.
>
>
> This is shocking to me (if this indeed is true).



> If this new model is standout model performance wi
> se doing something(s) others even the older Impuls
> e couldn’t do.
> My self I would have chosen an entirely new name.
> I sure wouldn’t want this new model confused in th
> e least with the older model.
> And the internet when searching seems could allow
> for this.
> I have already been doing goggle searches and yep
> this old dinosaur impulse pops up.
>
> A nice new shiny object that performs needs a new
> shiny name in my book.
> But what do I know.
>
> What was wrong with Manta?
> Internet already becoming somewhat saturated with
> that particular name. This is/ or was a good thin
> g.
>
> First Texas needs to polish their internet and soc
> ial media applications. Just saying.
> This site here is really a disgrace.
> When one looks at the news subforum heading data.
> Nothing posted in a long time. Nothing even about
> this new detector that is coming.
> [www.fisherlab.com]
>
> I just call balls balls and strikes strikes opinio
> n wise.
> Have nothing personally against First Texas.
> If I can see this I am sure others can too.
>
> Liltle more opinion here.
> Why in the world did First Texas give the exact sa
> me model designation to dst F75 units ? They IDed
> the same as the older non dst units. Actually did
> n’t even put stickers on older units later upgrade
> d with dst. They didn’t do with my unit that was
> upgraded. Just adds to confusion overall. Maybe
> this was a cost savings. I still don’t approve.
> Seems using the Impuse name is doing something sim
> ilar imo.

“A rose is a rose if by any other name” Bill Shakespeare

Who’s cares what they call it?

TARSACCI - “Digging deeper, BEHIND the competition!”
[forums.tarsaccisales.com]



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I bet one thing the new Impulse cant do that the old Impulse could do ......is get 60 hours on a set of 8 aa batteries....LOL

tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> If this new model is standout model performance wise doing something(s) others even the older Impulse couldn’t do.
> My self I would have chosen an entirely new name.
> I sure wouldn’t want this new model confused in the least with the older model.

This is exactly what they did with the 50 versions of the F75, you need to borrow George's secret decoder ring to figure out what hell you have

Marketing isn't FTPs strong suit.

Pimento Wrote:
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> Then Impulse AQ-LTD for the bipolar-coil model....
> or maybe AQ+ ?
>
> I'm not a fan of the new names, TBH. It could be w
> orse, though ... here in the U.K, Ford produced tw
> o family cars that shared names with popular porno
> magazines - Escort and Fiesta.


Maybe just call it Impulse Bi-Polar. I agree with Cal cobra.......(Regarding the T2 and F75) all the revisions and what version one actually had was confusing. ....there were a lot of revisions. Two new models could respond so different from one another, depending on actual production date. Dealers didnt even know what version they were selling. The digital Gold Bug was a fiasco especially with Cabela's models, ect....Give the consumer the power to download changes, some consumers actually prefered older versions. I guess FT answer to older version users is their reboot of the "Classic"...LOL



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IMPULSE-----I have an Impulse that I bought in 98 and used it on one Minie' ball hunt--it would hit a 10" minie' while being held 10" above the leaf layer. Got into nugget hunting and bought a couple ML PI's and the Impulse has sat in the closet for the past 21 years. Always wanted to go back to that ridge with the Impulse,but time flies. I am waiting for the Impulse Relic to hit those 3' cannonballs.

My hopes right off the bat is a 9” coil. Beach hunting you could do relatively cheap Daniel.....water hunting Feels like owning a boat......bust out another thousand. So that at least kept some out of the water. Now with the Nox.....it seems to be very popular. We don’t really know yet how deep it might be in disc....Better be much deeper than the Nox....or ML could just bump it up a bit.....leaving most buying the cheaper machine. The Nox price and warranty ....for what it does has to other companies scrambling. It’s even hurt resales.....because the Nox new is already half the price of most top notch water machines.

Daniel Tn Wrote:
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> youdig Wrote:
>
> > Maybe your hobbie are little bit on a upper clas
> s
> > side if you ask me (and your just missing yatchi
> ng
> > lol, and buying supercars)... , skating is cheap
> er
> > , bike riding cheaper ( depend what bike you use
> t
> > ho) , drone racing cheaper, surfing cheaper, swi
> mm
> > ing hell cheaper, computer gaming, retrogaming,
> ro
> > leplaying, painting , drawing and so on i have p
> le
> > nty of other exemples .
> >
> >
> > @Daniel_tn "Metal detecting...when the best eq
> ui
> > p you can buy is south of $3,000. You fellas wil
> l
> > have to get out and use it to pay for its
> el
> > f though. "
> > ill correct this sentence by "to get out and wor
> k
> > overtime to pay for itself though" at least in
> e
> > urope... you can still go hunt gold in either af
> ri
> > ca and australia to try to make a living of it .
> ..
>
>
>
> -------------------------------
>
> youdig --- ALL of those hobbies you mentioned can
> be done at entry level for cheap or high end level
> for more expensive costs. Metal detecting is the
> same way...you can go buy a Ace 250 or GO Find for
> under $200 and be off and running with a metal det
> ector. Nobody forces you to buy the best and most
> expensive equipment but it is kind of understood (
> or at least I thought it was) that for top end equ
> ipment, you are gonna have to dish out some extra
> $$ for it.


Yes it is, but silverfiend was comparing expensive hobby even at low entry lvl to justify the ( could be expensive price tag), that why i mentioned those.

@silverfiend , In case you didnt knew you dont need a 2000$ computer to play recent game, a 800$ it quite enough to play above 60fps.

Btw what are the criteria to define that something it top of the range :

- the price tag
- the performance
- quality of material
- the branding
- technology

I know some md that can check all the mark and they arent this expensive again.
xp deus is a top end machine check the price of it.
btw do you think the garret atx was a great succes for garret ? im pretty sure the seahunter mk2 got more beneficial for them than garret atx.

The Garrett ATX is a Prime example of a product that has great potential,but because of a couple easily addressed issues that the parent company refuses to acknowledge,coil cable disintegration and overbuilt housing,caused public opinion to erode and sales reflected those opinions.White's fumbling of the TDI Pro is another example of bullheadedness in the industry.

I think Ole' Daniel liked the Whites TDI? I think He was able to bust through that Dang Hot ground with it?



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doc holiday Wrote:
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> The Garrett ATX is a Prime example of a product th
> at has great potential,but because of a couple eas
> ily addressed issues that the parent company refus
> es to acknowledge,coil cable disintegration and ov
> erbuilt housing,caused public opinion to erode and
> sales reflected those opinions.White's fumbling of
> the TDI Pro is another example of bullheadedness i
> n the industry.


Agreed. Even some other models had hardware issues that should have been caught or fixed. Its sad when one has to Mod a brand new out of the box machine. The Infinium and Nox all had Rod issues. The Excal balance was horrible. The Garrett AT series still has control boxes that will literally fall off. At least Makro fixed their coil ear weakness on early Racer's

i have noticed that the "turks" seem to be more attentive to complaints from users domestic manufacturers need to be cognizant of what's going on! it's in their "best interests" to stay on top of this! .i'm just sayin'

(h.h.!)
j.t.