What’s up with the BANDIDO uMax?

Seems like a lot of guys still swear by this machine and is still high demand on eBay.
Ive got one but don’t really use it, saving it for my daughter. She’s happy w her Compadre, says the BANDIDO has too many knobs! LOL I know they handle well in iron and pack a lot of power in that tiny box. Just curious with what the users take is....

Aaron

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Really, I was not impressed with the one I had. Don't know what all the fuss was about. I liked the Eldorado umax much better. And then again thought the Outlaw was a bit better yet, just hated that skunky 3 position pinpoint tuning switch, which I think was Tesoros blunder. Had it been left as a retune, pinpoint switch only, it would have made the difference in popularity and sales.

DeepTech Vista X with 3 search coils.
Works for me

For the money the Bandido Umax isnt worth it. Not much more depth even if you have the GB set correctly. The Compadre, Silver Sabre (any one) or Troy x2 is all one needs for fun. Never tried the Golden Umax or Mojove. I think Monte for one, likes the original big box Bandido.

Funny you said that i was talking about it to an archeologist today.......friend of men bought one (new in 1998/9) and used it on the spoil of a MASSIVE car park dug into the city medieval quarter(BORDEAUX FRANCE).Every bip was a good targets 100s of artefacts,the machine paid for itself 20 times.Yes he will probably have found the same thing with a Silver sabre umax,but he had a Bandido 2 umax and still has it......


RR

Arkansas Wrote:
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> For the money the Bandido Umax isnt worth it. Not
> much more depth even if you have the GB set correc
> tly. The Compadre, Silver Sabre (any one) or Troy
> x2 is all one needs for fun. Never tried the Golde
> n Umax or Mojove. I think Monte for one, likes the
> original big box Bandido.


mojave is a 'ton' of fun! like a 'souped up" compadre with a
mineral toggle. great little 7" coil. terrific in the junk.

(h.h.!)
j.t.

> mojave is a 'ton' of fun! like a 'souped up" compa
> dre with a
> mineral toggle. great little 7" coil. terrific in
> the junk.
>
> (h.h.!)
> j.t.

Yep, that dog can hunt! LINK

tabman

Thanks for the link tabman, that was one day that guy will never forget for sure!

Personally, if I’m gonna use a Tesoro, I’d choose my Pantera over my Bandido 2 uMax. The Pantera w that 2 tone disc double stack notch knob has a lot more to offer.

Aaron


tabman Wrote:
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> > mojave is a 'ton' of fun! like a 'souped up" com
> pa
> > dre with a
> > mineral toggle. great little 7" coil. terrific i
> n
> > the junk.
> >
> > (h.h.!)
> > j.t.
>
> Yep, that dog can hunt! [url=http://www.treasurene
> t.com/forums/today-s-finds/531155-tesoro-mojave-in
> jun-tracks-down-silver-coin-spill-finds-gold-coin.
> html#post5297924]LINK[/url]
>
> tabman

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/10/2019 06:04PM by Aaron.

Yes I am a big Tone I.D. Guy that's why I prefer the Golden uMax out of the Tesoros I have tried.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/10/2019 05:17PM by Harold,ILL..

Do not confuse the Bandido uMax with the Bandido ll uMax. There is a difference.

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Aaron Wrote:
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> Thanks for the link tabman, that was one day that
> guy will never forget for sure!
>
> Personally, if I’m gonna use a Tesoro, I’d choose
> my Pantera over my Bandido 2 uMax. The Pantera w t
> hat 2 tone disc double stack notch knob has a lot
> more to offer.
>
> Aaron
>
>
> tabman Wrote:
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> > > mojave is a 'ton' of fun! like a 'souped up" c
> om
> > pa
> > > dre with a
> > > mineral toggle. great little 7" coil. terrific
> i
> > n
> > > the junk.
> > >
> > > (h.h.!)
> > > j.t.
> >
> > Yep, that dog can hunt! [url=http://www.treasure
> ne
> > t.com/forums/today-s-finds/531155-tesoro-mojave-
> in
> > jun-tracks-down-silver-coin-spill-finds-gold-coi
> n.
> > html#post5297924]LINK[/url]
> >
> > tabman


yup! outrageous day tabman! use mine for "curb strips" perfect size,lightweight,and packs enough "wallop"to get down 7 or 8"
great mineral toggle that is very effective,well built,and ''short money" fun with the famous "ed 180 circuit" .compadre on steroids.a single tone tesoro will "school ya" pay attention to how it "hits" on targets,and have a blast!

(h.h!)
j.t.

The difference between the Bandido umax and Bandido 2 umax is the threshold knob (on the 2). Using the Threshold one could supertune it for extra depth, but supertuned it doesnt do as well in unmasking. In the end might be better to choose the Vaquero. If you want to hunt in all-metal then models with GB and Threshold are better. The Eldorado umax has the better 180 disc range. As I mentioned previously I have not tried the Golden Umax, however I do own and use a GM King Cobra which is basically a Golden Sabre 2 Plus copy, but the King Cobra is much lighter and has brighter crisper audio. It was modded by Keith Wills with added threshold and GB. Has two tone ID (notched) and runs at 15 kHz. The Tesoro models having tone ID are Golden Sabre 2, Golden Sabre 2 Plus, Golden Umax, Euro Sabre Umax, Royal Sabre, and Pantera. The reason some prefer the big box (pre-umax) models is because they were low gain and better in unmasking in iron. Tesoro models using the 4 pin coils are all high gain. What Tesoro models have BOTH low gain and 180 disc??? The Amigo 2 and Compadre I know do. Maybe Lobo, Pantera, Mojave or Outlaw...not sure. My King Cobra doesnt, but the GM (Gold Mountain) 1650 does and is killer in iron. Also very few Tesoro models running in 15 kHz. Past online posts by Monte shed lots of light on the subject.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 04/11/2019 11:45PM by Arkansas.

The original Golden Sabre was a single tone detector. The Golden Sabre II has two tone I.D. and a favorite of Mike Hillis.
One on the bay at the moment
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/11/2019 01:56PM by Harold,ILL..

Harold,ILL. Wrote:
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> The original Golden Sabre was a single tone detect
> or. The Golden Sabre II has two tone I.D. and a fa
> vorite of Mike Hillis.
> One on the bay at the moment
> [rover.ebay.com]
> F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F264269703434



Thanks, yes the original was single tone. The two tone Golden Sabre 2 was 12kHz and the GS-2 PLUS model ran at 15kHz. Good info.

Harold,ILL. Wrote:
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> The original Golden Sabre was a single tone detect
> or. The Golden Sabre II has two tone I.D. and a fa
> vorite of Mike Hillis.
> One on the bay at the moment
> [rover.ebay.com]
> F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F264269703434


Don’t forget Harold, Mike’s GS2 is modified, he had a ground balance put on it. The GS2 replaced the PANTERA which had a ground.

You can get the GS2 pretty cheap on eBay, usually around $180.00 or less. It’s the PANTERA that’s gonna cost ya, if you can find one...

Aaron

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I briefly owned a Pantera and in My ground the Golden uMax New tone Model is at least 2 inches deeper. But I do have a Hot Golden.

Owned one when they first came out and didn't impress me...I believe the Pantera or Golden Sabre 11 were the best..

I have the Bandido II and used it exclusively in iron infested sites. I purchased a custom 5" loop for it with extra long cable and has been invaluable in that situation. My "new" go to machine now for similar sites is the GoldMaxx Power which does even better.

I am not sure if the Umax version came out before or after the II. Either way a monster in shallow nail sites.

What was once impossible..... is now easy and obvious. BUT.......... if : You don't know...what you don't know........ it continues to appear/look impossible.
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There was the Bandido 2 bigbox and later the Bandido 2 umax

SilverPeter Wrote:
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> I have the Bandido II and used it exclusively in i
> ron infested sites. I purchased a custom 5" loop f
> or it with extra long cable and has been invaluabl
> e in that situation. My "new" go to machine now fo
> r similar sites is the GoldMaxx Power which does e
> ven better.
>
> I am not sure if the Umax version came out before
> or after the II. Either way a monster in shallow n
> ail sites.

Yes Sir, that GMP is a BEAST in iron! Came out in 2003 and can still w the best in the rusty stuff. I’ll tell ya, I love using it in the shallow water w the stock coil.

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