Simplex on a testbed.

^An interesting video of the Simplex on an expert test lane.
Going by his comments, the Vanquish sounds like a sensitive machine for £199!
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Published on 28 Oct 2019
I just thought I better show the results of the Simplex on my test area.
The reason I'm showing this is the guy with the Simplex was on my expert lane and was just getting the iron signals but thought they were non ferrous. The truth is the Simplex did not find one signal in the Expert lane, plus the other youtubers videos stating the Simplex is trouncing the top machines.
The thing is he was filming it and saying not so nice things about the Equinox but not realising it was his machine that couldn't cut the mustard.
I had to challenge him to find the target in front of me, he accepted, big mistake!!!!

Footnote : On the intermediate and beginner lanes the Vanquish 340 at £199 also did a better job, not by much but still better and of course the Vanquish 540 was better still.

[youtu.be]



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 10/29/2019 07:43AM by ghound.

All I want to know is what language the fellow with the Simplex was speaking ?

Another video of Simplex and Equinox on the same targets...

Simplex and Equinox head to head

dave_e Wrote:
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> Another video of Simplex and Equinox on the same t
> argets...
>
> S
> implex and Equinox head to head


He did almost the same test with the Anfibio large high conductive target fresh dug round hole undisturbed undug targets are the true test.

Cal_cobra Wrote:
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> All I want to know is what language the fellow wit
> h the Simplex was speaking ?

I think you will find there is a delay while the interpreter asks the interpreter



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ghound Wrote:
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> ^An interesting video of the Simplex on an expert
> test lane.
> Going by his comments, the Vanquish sounds like a
> sensitive machine for £199!
> .
> .
> Published on 28 Oct 2019
> I just thought I better show the results of the Si
> mplex on my test area.
> The reason I'm showing this is the guy with the Si
> mplex was on my expert lane and was just getting t
> he iron signals but thought they were non ferrous.
> The truth is the Simplex did not find one signal i
> n the Expert lane, plus the other youtubers videos
> stating the Simplex is trouncing the top machines.
> The thing is he was filming it and saying not so n
> ice things about the Equinox but not realising it
> was his machine that couldn't cut the mustard.
> I had to challenge him to find the target in front
> of me, he accepted, big mistake!!!!
>
> Footnote : On the intermediate and beginner lanes
> the Vanquish 340 at £199 also did a better job, no
> t by much but still better and of course the Vanqu
> ish 540 was better still.
>
> [youtu.be]

And here is my response to Neil Jones who is well known by the whole world as a biased fan of the brand:

''Dear Neil Jones, this is Dilek - Sales & Marketing Director of Nokta Makro. There is no way that the Simplex cannot hit any of those targets in your test bed and we are 100% behind this! The truth is, the guy in the video who just bought that Simplex, is an unexperienced user and he reached out and he said he was pretty upset that he was put in this position! He does not even understand everyhting you are saying. Please be more professional than this. Listen, we have never claimed that Simplex+ will never miss a target but you know what? The same holds true for whatever you are swinging! And you must be forgetting that Simplex+ is 1/3 of the price of what you are swinging. Why is it so hard to understand that there is no perfect detector whatever brand it is? There will be advantages and disadvantages to all of them without an exception. Nokta Makro is simply offering a fully submersible, high performance detector at a very good price which will benefit ALL END USERS including you. You know why? You may not use our brand but this will give you a good reason to go back to your favourite brand manufacturer and say: ''We also want a waterproof detector that can perform as good as the Simplex at a low price''. At the end of the day, this detector raises the bar in this industry which will benefit you guys more than us.


And here is an open invite for you: You are more than welcome to do this in a set up where I am present with my team and we do all these tests together and we all take a video together as well? What do you think??? Thank you and see you around!''

To be fair, i thought it was suitable for inexperienced user, and your also telling folk to compare it to more expensive machines, then complaining when they do.

It would be great to see the top manufacturers across the world in an i dependent test on a range of targets in differing soils and settings.
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SIMPLEX+ $299 - The new standard in metal detecting!
It can do a lot more than what its price tag says!
Only compare it to devices that cost 2 or 3 times more!
#noktamakro #simplex #metaldetector
#noktamakro #simplex #metaldetector



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/30/2019 10:40AM by ghound.

ALL YOU NEED IS YOUR OWN IQ

cant see one negative in the release of the SimplEX+
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ghound Wrote:
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> To be fair, i thought it was suitable for inexperi
> enced user, and your also telling folk to compare
> it to more expensive machines, then complaining wh
> en they do.
>
> It would be great to see the top manufacturers acr
> oss the world in an i dependent test on a range of
> targets in differing soils and settings.
> .
> .
> .
>
>
> SIMPLEX+ $299 - The new standard in metal detectin
> g!
> It can do a lot more than what its price tag says!
> Only compare it to devices that cost 2 or 3 times
> more!
> #noktamakro #simplex #metaldetector
> #noktamakro #simplex #metaldetector

Yes it is VERY suitable for beginners yet not for a guy who was thrown in a test bed surrounded with people who has an agenda!

Please read the comments underneath the video from even the users of the other brand who own both machines before making these posts.

Actually let me help you and post one here:
''Dave Nelson
22 hours ago (edited)
I’m a Nox user myself but what exactly is this video meant to achieve? I didn’t see the Nox anywhere! I also have a Simplex as a backup machine and let me tell you there isn’t a signal yet that I have had with the Nox that the Simplex hasn’t or couldn’t find even in heavily trashy sites. Yes the Nox is a different animal but for £300 the Simplex is all that and more. I just wondered what truth I am meant to be seeing’’

Ghound – please be unbiased, broad-minded and FAIR! Just go to your favorite brand’s manufacturer and ask for a detector that costs $299 that has the features of the Simplex+ (waterproof, deep, fast, rechargeable, compact and lightweight) and if they want to throw in their new technology on top of that, then you can understand what we mean by setting a new bar in this industry.

My invite is open to anybody in the world. Let's do these tests together and film them. Because we will not be upset if Simplex+ cannot hit a target - because that will hold true for a $899 detector under another scenario...does that make the Simplex worth only $299? Everybody knows the answer to that question I guess.

But i am unbiased, i just use what suit me best with no favouritism of any manufacturer.
It's understandable Nokta's not impressed with a video showing a target basically on the surface and the Simplex couldn't hit it until it was rubbed on the coil face, but it is what it is, and I'm sure there will be plenty on other videos to show the Simplex in a better light.
Personally, i think Neil has done you a favour by highlighting this and it gives you info that may help in a future update, maybe it's as some have said that the fixed tone break is too high, or it's just the lower freq, but I'm sure you'll solve it.


Nokta Detectors Wrote:

> Ghound – please be unbiased, broad-minded and FAIR
> ! Just go to your favorite brand’s manufacturer an
> d ask for a detector that costs $299 that has the
> features of the Simplex+ (waterproof, deep, fast,
> rechargeable, compact and lightweight) and if they
> want to throw in their new technology on top of th
> at, then you can understand what we mean by settin
> g a new bar in this industry.
>
> My invite is open to anybody in the world. Let's d
> o these tests together and film them. Because we w
> ill not be upset if Simplex+ cannot hit a target -
> because that will hold true for a $899 detector un
> der another scenario...does that make the Simplex
> worth only $299? Everybody knows the answer to tha
> t question I guess.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/30/2019 12:50PM by ghound.

ghound Wrote:
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> But i am unbiased, i just use what suit me best wi
> th no favouritism of any manufacturer.
> It's understandable Nokta's not impressed with a v
> ideo showing a target basically on the surface and
> the Simplex couldn't hit it until it was rubbed on
> the coil face, but it is what it is, and I'm sure
> there will be plenty on other videos to show the S
> implex in a better light.
> Personally, i think Neil has done you a favour by
> highlighting this and it gives you info that may h
> elp in a future update, maybe it's as some have sa
> id that the fixed tone break is too high, or it's
> just the lower freq, but I'm sure you'll solve it.
>
> > Ghound - There is nothing to solve or fix. It is as good as it is so far and that is also confirmed by the actual users of the product.
We can add a ton more features to it from tone breaks to frequencies but guess what? Then it will need to be adjusted for different scenarios just like the model you are using and defeats the whole purpose of Simplex being Simplex! And we have our other models that you can adjust for different conditions.

We are actually very happy to see these videos as it just proves our point...nobody even compares the Simplex+ to any low-end detector but the high-end only.

My question is - I have not seen the comparison model in the video? Is that not interesting? And guess what..let's say Simplex+ cannot really hit a few targets there? How about the videos out there or real life scenarios that I have witnessed personally where a $899 detector cannot hit a target but a $299 detector can? I am sure that would be more upsetting and harder to explain.

You know what ghound - please let's stop playing games. Every time our name is mentioned on a thread, you have to say something negative.

Why don't you just enjoy your detector and let the users and buyers of the Simplex+ worry about all this? Unless you really have any gains out of all this.

As a last point, we are not saying this is a magic wand, neither is YOUR detector.
Therefore, I will personally not let anybody try to make the Simplex+ look like less than what it is.
I will stand up for this product every chance I get along with the actual users of this product who are the true advocates!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/30/2019 04:27PM by Nokta Detectors.

Ms Dilek,you are asking the Noxers to be fair and objective---MISSION IMPOSSIBLE.
You got'em runnin'--pour on the coal.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/30/2019 06:03PM by doc holiday.

think you're being trolled Dilek. my advice would be to get a unit to 'calabash digger'....his videos are very fair IMHO and he's posted many comparisons using his test site.

his results would/will be very 'telling'.....cheers

Take it up with those doing the vids, i couldn't care any less to be honest.
If i have an opinion on a subject and it's within the forum rules I'll air it, this is a detector forum where you discuss new machines and their pros/cons, pos/neg, and I've said before and will again that the Simplex looks like real value for money, so please stop saying that I'm just negative to every Nok/Mak post, and as i started the thread technically your trolling me, but i don't mind....





> You know what ghound - please let's stop playing g
> ames. Every time our name is mentioned on a thread
> , you have to say something negative.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/30/2019 08:20PM by ghound.

doc holiday Wrote:
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> Ms Dilek,you are asking the Noxers to be fair and
> objective---MISSION IMPOSSIBLE.
> You got'em runnin'--pour on the coal.

It's not the Nox users thank you -

it's the odd person who has no idea when a brilliant product walks into a room

You may have missed this Noxs Users Post in this thread -

"Dave Nelson
22 hours ago (edited)
I’m a Nox user myself but what exactly is this video meant to achieve? I didn’t see the Nox anywhere! I also have a Simplex as a backup machine and let me tell you there isn’t a signal yet that I have had with the Nox that the Simplex hasn’t or couldn’t find even in heavily trashy sites. Yes the Nox is a different animal but for £300 the Simplex is all that and more. I just wondered what truth I am meant to be seeing’’

I run a Nox as well - Recently purchased and I am getting a SimplEX as a backup/loaner

I see absolutely NOTHING wrong with the SimplEX so cannot fathom why some are like a dog on a bone
trying to discredit a detector that punches well above anything else in THAT PRICE range & then some -
All I see is panicking brand loyal die hards who will try anything to stem the flow or top end products
coming from a manufacturer who can deliver performance & reliability without breaking the bank or
blaming the Chinese for stealing their tech -

Ironic that months ago many of the experienced testers were going to do this and going to do that in testing
and comparing the SimplEX+ however as it was becoming more apparent how good the SimplEX actually is,
these forthcoming comparisons never eventuated and all we have left now is a multitude of videos showing
the SimplEX compared to high end stuff -

Where are all these $350 - Garretts, Fishers, Teknetics, Bounty Hunter, Minelab, etc Detectors the SimplEX should be
compared with? - Yes, the comparisons would be frighteningly embarrassing - But to save face, those that are on this campaign
of knocking the SimplEX are simply making comparisons with detectors that cost 3 to 4 time the price -

How fair is that? - If you are brand loyal, get over it - Not everyone is and that SimplEX+ will compliment my Nox800 perfectly

Thank you Nokta-Makro & Minelab for putting dated tech to sleep

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I refer you to Nok/Mak advertising,


SIMPLEX+ $299 - The new standard in metal detecting!
It can do a lot more than what its price tag says!
Only compare it to devices that cost 2 or 3 times more!
#noktamakro #simplex #metaldetector
#noktamakro #simplex #metaldetector

rustic charm Wrote:
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> doc holiday wrote
But to save face, those
> that are on this campaign
> of knocking the SimplEX are simply making comparis
> ons with detectors that cost 3 to 4 time the price

ghound Wrote:
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> I refer you to Nok/Mak advertising,
>
>
> SIMPLEX+ $299 - The new standard in metal detectin
> g!
> It can do a lot more than what its price tag says!
> Only compare it to devices that cost 2 or 3 times
> more!
> #noktamakro #simplex #metaldetector
> #noktamakro #simplex #metaldetector

Well you can not be upset that people are doing what you told them to do Dilek lol

sanjuro Wrote:
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> ghound Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I refer you to Nok/Mak advertising,
> >
> >
> > SIMPLEX+ $299 - The new standard in metal detect
> in
> > g!
> > It can do a lot more than what its price tag say
> s!
> > Only compare it to devices that cost 2 or 3 time
> s
> > more!
> > #noktamakro #simplex #metaldetector
> > #noktamakro #simplex #metaldetector
>
> Well you can not be upset that people are doing wh
> at you told them to do Dilek lol

I would never be upset in "fair" and "honest" comparisons. People are missing the point in our advertising. We are simply saying this detector has features and built of a detector that would cost much more. Can anybody disagree with that? It is also a deep and very fast detector. Of course you will get some advantages and different settings with high end devices which apply to our own models as well. That is why I am inviting everybody to be fair and think intellectually and do the price-value comparison applying basic math into the equation. Thank you!!!

Cal_cobra Wrote:
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> All I want to know is what language the fellow wit
> h the Simplex was speaking ?

Just a guess, Celtic? Several different counties right there, (UK) ....ireland, wales, scotland, england.....that have there own dialect.


The guy in this video had the cards stacked against him for sure.

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/31/2019 06:11AM by OBN.

I cannot be asked with all this bickering,i feel its driving folks away from the forum !!

rustic charm Wrote:
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> doc holiday Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ms Dilek,you are asking the Noxers to be fair an
> d
> > objective---MISSION IMPOSSIBLE.
> > You got'em runnin'--pour on the coal.
>
> It's not the Nox users thank you -
>
> it's the odd person who has no idea when a brillia
> nt product walks into a room
>
> You may have missed this Noxs Users Post in this t
> hread -
>
> "Dave Nelson
> 22 hours ago (edited)
> I’m a Nox user myself but what exactly is this vid
> eo meant to achieve? I didn’t see the Nox anywhere
> ! I also have a Simplex as a backup machine and le
> t me tell you there isn’t a signal yet that I have
> had with the Nox that the Simplex hasn’t or couldn
> ’t find even in heavily trashy sites. Yes the Nox
> is a different animal but for £300 the Simplex is
> all that and more. I just wondered what truth I am
> meant to be seeing’’
>
> I run a Nox as well - Recently purchased and I am
> getting a SimplEX as a backup/loaner
>
> I see absolutely NOTHING wrong with the SimplEX so
> cannot fathom why some are like a dog on a bone
> trying to discredit a detector that punches well a
> bove anything else in THAT PRICE range & then some
> -
> All I see is panicking brand loyal die hards who w
> ill try anything to stem the flow or top end produ
> cts
> coming from a manufacturer who can deliver perform
> ance & reliability without breaking the bank or
> blaming the Chinese for stealing their tech -
>
> Ironic that months ago many of the experienced tes
> ters were going to do this and going to do that in
> testing
> and comparing the SimplEX+ however as it was becom
> ing more apparent how good the SimplEX actually is
> ,
> these forthcoming comparisons never eventuated and
> all we have left now is a multitude of videos show
> ing
> the SimplEX compared to high end stuff -
>
> Where are all these $350 - Garretts, Fishers, Tekn
> etics, Bounty Hunter, Minelab, etc Detectors the S
> implEX should be
> compared with? - Yes, the comparisons would be fri
> ghteningly embarrassing - But to save face, those
> that are on this campaign
> of knocking the SimplEX are simply making comparis
> ons with detectors that cost 3 to 4 time the price
> -
>
> How fair is that? - If you are brand loyal, get ov
> er it - Not everyone is and that SimplEX+ will com
> pliment my Nox800 perfectly
>
> Thank you Nokta-Makro & Minelab for putting dated
> tech to sleep

I am pleased to see that at least 2 Noxers are treating the Simplex + with fairness--help convert some of your friends.

The guys native language is dutch and he tries to speak a bit of English. (i was born and raised in the Netherlands, lived there for 30 years.)

He was trying to detect gold (no details given about what size etc. exactly) detector hardly picked it up in that vid.



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vincentvangerven Wrote:
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> The guys native language is dutch and he tries to
> speak a bit of English. (i was born and raised in
> the Netherlands, lived there for 30 years.)
>
> He was trying to detect gold (no details given abo
> ut what size etc. exactly) detector hardly picked
> it up in that vid.

Thank You...

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