Evidently some new detector models coming by way of First Texas

I almost forgot about the days of Fisher releasing a new CZ. I posted about it on Finds and I think it was Dave who jumped in and enjoyed the suggestions. Kind of felt like they were working on something, but for naught. Tough competition.

Anyway, 'd love to see "Fisher" come out with a multi freq / multi threaded IQ like platform BUT with a lower frequency set or something optimized for deep Silver but with a more general frequency set too. Would be great to see a machine that goes deeper on silver.

EMS

Concur.

A multi freq where the user could select the freqs.
Low freqs are fine fine for US milled silver, but not so good for European hammered silver.

earthmansurfer Wrote:
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> I almost forgot about the days of Fisher releasing
> a new CZ. I posted about it on Finds and I think i
> t was Dave who jumped in and enjoyed the suggestio
> ns. Kind of felt like they were working on somethi
> ng, but for naught. Tough competition.
>
> Anyway, 'd love to see "Fisher" come out with a mu
> lti freq / multi threaded IQ like platform BUT wit
> h a lower frequency set or something optimized for
> deep Silver but with a more general frequency set
> too. Would be great to see a machine that goes dee
> per on silver.
>
> EMS

To me it seems FTP is done with the serious hobbiest market. Which makes sense as I imagine times are tough to stay afloat as a detector manufacture.

I doubt that they are “done with” the serious hobbiest market. It is clear that the lack of the buzz created by a new and exciting top of the line machine is limiting sales to some degree, but the T2 and F75 are still steady sellers along with the rest of their hobbiest/treasure line.

They seem to be doing all right otherwise, Time Mallory and Mike Scott just got back for a couple of weeks visiting Europeand distributors and the like - not the kind of thing you spend money on if the boat is sinking. Also, the acquisition of the Manta rogram must have cost a good bit.

Still, there is no substitute for new designs to directly confront the leaders in the high end market, and these have not yet appeared.

Rick Kempf
Gold Canyon AZ- where there is no gold

well it appears to me the 'competition' are using their resources a whole lot better than what the big boys are -

Alarming to say the least -

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For us it is a hobby - of for some something more - perhaps an obsession. We need to remember that for the companies involved it is a business. They would happily sell patio furniture if the margins were similar. We “punters” have long been agreeable to pay a “tax on treasure” and fork over many hundreds or even thousands of dollars for a box of components worth a few dozens of dollars.

Time has passed - new entrants in the market have shaken it up. Premium prices need to justify themselves by premium performance. Look at Minelab. they saw the writing on the wall and obsoleted a $3000 detector with an $800 one. Why? —- not just because a Turkish fast follower outfit was upsetting the apple cart.

The cart is broken by the side of the road. Mom and pop dealers having to stock the various models of various makers in their basement are a thing of the past.

EVERYTHING about this business is upended. The future is special machines for special jobs - and a dogfight in the middle for enthusiastic hobbiest’s bucks - and the christmas tree to closet market for low priced toys and gifts.

Who will survive -perhaps a company which also markets other professional products to totally different industrial, military and security markets. Now who could that be....?

Garrett
First Texas
Minelab

If you only know me as some kind of FTP “fanboy” you have missed a lot. I spent 35 years in purchasing and subcontracting in the military, petroleum and heavy construction markets. I have made a living analyzing products, markets and trends. and such.

Anybody else to add to my list?

Rick Kempf
Gold Canyon AZ- where there is no gold



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lytle78 Wrote:
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> For us it is a hobby - of for some something more
> - perhaps an obsession. We need to remember that f
> or the companies involved it is a business. They w
> ould happily sell patio furniture if the margins w
> ere similar. We “punters” have long been agreeable
> to pay a “tax on treasure” and fork over many hund
> reds or even thousands of dollars for a box of com
> ponents worth a few dozens of dollars.
>
> Time has passed - new entrants in the market have
> shaken it up. Premium prices need to justify thems
> elves by premium performance. Look at Minelab. the
> y saw the writing on the wall and obsoleted a $300
> 0 detector with an $800 one. Why? —- not just beca
> use a Turkish fast follower outfit was upsetting t
> he apple cart.
>
> The cart is broken by the side of the road. Mom an
> d pop dealers having to stock the various models o
> f various makers in their basement are a thing of
> the past.
>
> EVERYTHING about this business is upended. The fut
> ure is special machines for special jobs - and a d
> ogfight in the middle for enthusiastic hobbiest’s
> bucks - and the christmas tree to closet market fo
> r low priced toys and gifts.
>
> Who will survive -perhaps a company which also mar
> kets other professional products to totally differ
> ent industrial, military and security markets. Now
> who could that be....?
>
> Garrett
> First Texas
> Minelab
>
> If you only know me as some kind of FTP “fanboy” y
> ou have missed a lot. I spent 35 years in purchasi
> ng and subcontracting in the military, petroleum a
> nd heavy construction markets. I have made a livin
> g analyzing products, markets and trends. and such
> .
>
> Anybody else to add to my list?


Some veery good points there!!!!!!!!


RR