Darwin Award - Covid Version - don’t do this

If you’re stupid enough to vote for Trump twice, your kids and grandkids are probably already a lost cause because you played a part in raising them.
Hopefully those acorns can roll away and grow independently out from under your umbrella of stupidity, and your need to belong to a club that doesn’t want you as a member and is using your vote. You should be ashamed to look into your family’s eyes pathetic sheep.

Yea, OK . . dave_e boy.

Sooo Davie would you please advise us Stupids who to vote for??

80 percent of voters already know who they are voting for. In fact there was never a decision to be made. They vote party no matter what. And no amount of arguing will ever persuade anyone in the 80 percent. The key to the election is the other 20 percent. And of course voter turn out.

goodmore Wrote:
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> 80 percent of voters already know who they are vot
> ing for. In fact there was never a decision to be
> made. They vote party no matter what. And no amoun
> t of arguing will ever persuade anyone in the 80 p
> ercent. The key to the election is the other 20 pe
> rcent. And of course voter turn out.


I don't vote party no matter what. If Biden, Warren, Sanders etc were running as a Repub, I wouldn't vote for any of them except possible Tulsi Gabbard. . . and that would have to be after a couple cocktails.

I'm not a Trump lover (nor hater), but at the same time everyone knows that we need change. We need someone strong and willing to make changes, even if their own Party objects. Trump knows money and is not easily bought out. I don't expect changes overnight, but someone to at least break the ice (to split a link in the chain). The Democrats know that Pelosi is crazy, but they keep her because she is strong. If not Trump, then who??



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If you're not voting for Trump, you're going to have to vote for Creepy Sleepy Joe. That's insane!

tabman

doc holiday Wrote:
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> Sooo Davie would you please advise us Stupids who
> to vote for??

Stop being a sheep and begging to be lead. Be original unlike your name “doc holiday”

goodmore Wrote:
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> 80 percent of voters already know who they are vot
> ing for. In fact there was never a decision to be
> made. They vote party no matter what. And no amoun
> t of arguing will ever persuade anyone in the 80 p
> ercent. The key to the election is the other 20 pe
> rcent. And of course voter turn out.


Agree 100%!!!!!
Far left and far right don’t understand.

Arkansas Wrote:
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> I'm not a Trump lover (nor hater), but at the same
> time everyone knows that we need change. We need s
> omeone strong and willing to make changes, even if
> their own Party objects. Trump knows money and is
> not easily bought out. I don't expect changes over
> night, but someone to at least break the ice (to s
> plit a link in the chain). The Democrats know that
> Pelosi is crazy, but they keep her because she is
> strong. If not Trump, then who??

Yes. Americans will likely have to choose between crappy or less crappy.

What remains? The one that’s less dangerous to citizens?

It’s sad there has to be a choice of only 2 when so many moderates live in the middle and support the poor and pay their fair, share unlike the billionaires.

tabman Wrote:
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> If you voted for Obama TWICE, voted for Crooked Hillary, even considered Socialist Bernie and think that
> Sleepy Joe would make a great president, you're likely dumber than a rock and twice as stupid.

dave_e Wrote:
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> If you’re stupid enough to vote for Trump twice... You should be ashamed to look into your family’s eyes
> pathetic sheep.

One of the freebies we got with Trump is his willingness to constantly denigrate and taunt people he doesn't agree with. It's the behavior I would expect from a 6-year-old bully, not the President of the United States. Besides being incredibly unprofessional, it desensitizes us to that kind of behavior, much in the way we get desensitized to mass shootings, or trillion $ deficits. I'm no longer the least bit surprised by who he attacks, or what names he calls people. Many people cheer Trump's behavior and imitate it, but it's not a trait to admire.

America is, and has always been, a test ground for competing political, social, and economic ideas. No one here has the answers, just ideas and opinions on what might or might not work. I don't know the majority of you, but I guarantee I would be pleased to meet any of you, have a beer, go detecting... even if I don't agree with your politics, your religion, or your choice of detector (or beer).

Folks, let's try to keep the discussions civil, please.

tabman Wrote:
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> If you're not voting for Trump, you're going to have to vote for Creepy Sleepy Joe. That's insane!

I agree, it is insane. Just like having to choose between Trump and Hillary.

Some countries have a "None of the Above" option on their ballots. If NOTA gets the most votes, then the candidates are tossed aside and it starts over. Might make for a long election cycle, but it also might encourage better people to get involved.

Maybe when the insanity is over a few of us get together for beer and detecting. Seems silly that i got ticked off over some of the things i did in the past.

Steve...….. that's EXACTLY it.
I love it when Marco drops his notes...… and has to speak from his gut. (Somewhere after the 6-minute mark).

It is widely believed that the fall of France in 1940 was basically because if extreme political Division. Leon Blum was a left wing political figure and the saying “Better Hitler than Leon Blum” was apparently common.

When a people begin to hate their enemies more than they love their children - they are doomed.

How about we “ease up” a bit and figure out what our lives will be like after a few hundred thousand or an odd million of our fellow citizens are dead after this plague runs it course. Made worse by the fact that it will be two groups mostly hit, The old, weak and poor and our heroic front line folks - medical personnel, first responders, grocery cashiers, delivery drivers - sadly they are likely to be mown down like ripe wheat. I hop I am wrong, but I doubt it.

Rick Kempf
Gold Canyon AZ- where there is no gold

Time again for little ole me you know, the uneducated and lives in Hick community.

So someone here thinks Trump has and would say anything to get elected. Well, let's look at what Trump said as candidate Trump.
He said he would meet with N Korean leader - check.
He said he would build a wall on southern border- in progress- check.
He said he would move Iarael's capital- check.
He said he would bring jobs back to USA- check
He said he would cut taxes - check.
There are more things he's has done he said he would do.

My point is is we go back and listen to prior candidates elected President, they had far fewer of their campaign promises executed.

Trump knows politics is rough and tumble business.
He I think has 2 personalities (on purpose).
The kind and gentler Trump and the fighter.

Now, there is high chance if lots of Trumps opponents he had when running would not have took his money for campaign contributions Trump would have never been nominated. His campaign would have ended real early.
So he must not have been too bad a person for them to take his $$$ right?

Next the media.
Before Trump and early in his actual Pres campaign the press were tripping over themselves to get camera time with Trump. Again he must not have been a bad person.
Even Joe the RINO Scarborough and his bed mate back when Mika was interviewing him loads on MSNBC.
Maybe they thought Trump's bid was a joke.
Backfired on them. Lol

Talk about name calling.
Romney called Trump a con man, so did Rubio.
And lots of the press and the Dems call him a racist.
Funny thing is I have not seen one black persons come forward and tell their story of Trump's racism.
And before Trumps run like I said the press would have broke their necks to get a story with him. Surely they wouldn't do this for a racist, right?

Trump has thwarted both parties, but the right came aboard. Left still out there like Pluto.

Trump since being elected has not been treated fairly by the press. They never really ask about his family. He does have a wife and young son.
Trump never went to Harvard or Yale for that matter. Another problem the left has with Trump.

Trump was a womanizer, thing is he doesn't deny it. Just like being rich when he ran, unlike Romney- fool.

Hillary was scared of Trump. Why?
She knew the real Trump.
She knew he was serious minded person and didn't like to lose no more than she did.
Remember one for the debates. She tried to bait Trump by getting between audience and Trump on purpose. Trump didn't take the bait. Bad move on Hillary's part. Akin to want Gore did with GW Bush in debate. Probably cost Gore election too.

Trumps likes to talk to the media. Far more than Hilllary or even Obama or GW Bush.
Trump when he and his team does good wants to hear some kudo prefacing with at least some of the questioning from the press.
Trump looks out for his team members.

So what do you get with Trump?
Funny thing is anyone who watched the show The Apprentice. Trump was not acting. That was him in the show in the REAL flesh completely.
That show helped him get elected immensely. I think folks figured out what I said above and went and voted for him.

Someday we'll get a better idea of how good or bad Trump was as Pres. There will be more Presidents in the future.

I said sometime ago, you remember the OT thread here involving politics back when Trump was running?
I said Trump wanted to go down in the history books as doing good as Pres.
Well this Corona virus and what happens may allow for this.



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Shakira made a hit with “these hips don’t lie”

By the end of the year we will see “these stats don’t lie”

I hope I’m wrong, but it looks like delay, deny, etc, will cost us a lot of fellow citizens dying alone.

It’s all well and good to argue for your favorite sports star or politician.

We knew in early January that it was coming - never mind what Theodore Roosevelt failed to do about Chinese immigration in 1901 or whatever...- we had a shot at heading this off,

We blew it,

Widespread testing, contact tracing, isolation - we did almost none of that - why...the reasons will be obvious well before November when we need to decide who will lead us into the as yet - unknown reality of “USA 2”

I believe that this trial in the furnace of pandemic will alter the future course of out country I make no predictions of what that course wil be, but I am convinced that the impact of this will be greater than the so called “Great Depression” and - like that trial - will force some kind of “fork” in the civic and political road we have been traveling.

Rick Kempf
Gold Canyon AZ- where there is no gold



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The failure to combat COVID-19 can be attributed to several things:

China hiding the initial outbreak.

No initial organized planning or reaction at the Federal level, partly due to the NSC directorate handing pandemic planning being disbanded in 2018.

Slow reaction in restricting, not banning, travel from China and much later Europe.

Failure at the CDC to get a viable test kit until well over a month after the WHO kit was available.

Slow distribution of test kits and shortages of testing supplies.

Slow reaction to eliminating FDA red tape on private lab test kit development and sample testing.

Inept top down guidance, for example stating on March 6th “anyone who wants a test can get a test.” That was (and still is) untrue, and his own officials were quick to correct him.

That's just some the containment issues, some of which are still not addressed and leaks into mitigation issues. This forced local regions and then the States to take the lead well ahead of any true Federal response. Unfortunately the Federal response hasn't gotten much better since the national emergency declaration, the White House is a ghost town of scientific expertise. When the good of all hinges on the sacrifices of many, clear coordination matters

Bill Gates, nailed it on the head in some of his recent comments:

What are you thoughts on the idea of reopening the economy?

Gates: It is very irresponsible for somebody to suggest we can have the best of both worlds. What we need is an extreme shutdown. If things go well then you can start opening back up.

There really is no middle ground, and it’s very tough to say to people, “Hey, keep going to restaurants, go buy new houses, [and] ignore that pile of bodies over in the corner. We want you to keep spending because there’s maybe a politician who thinks GDP growth is all that counts.

...bringing the economy back, that’s more of a reversible thing than bringing people back to life.

Rich, strong, developed, America is supposed to be the readiest of nations. That illusion has been shattered. Despite months of advance warning as the virus spread in other countries, when America was finally tested by COVID-19, it failed.

As this unfolds, it's seemingly very telling of what our country has become, and what our priorities are as a nation. It's also telling of the mind control exercises that've been occurring over the past 30-40 years. Dividing the country is nothing more than a smoke screen, move along, pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

Geotech Wrote:
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> tabman Wrote:
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> > If you're not voting for Trump, you're going to
> have to vote for Creepy Sleepy Joe. That's insane!
>
> I agree, it is insane. Just like having to choose
> between Trump and Hillary.
>
> Some countries have a "None of the Above" option o
> n their ballots. If NOTA gets the most votes, then
> the candidates are tossed aside and it starts over
> . Might make for a long election cycle, but it als
> o might encourage better people to get involved.

Thank God that Crooked Hillary didn't win! She would have been just as bad, if not worse than Obama.

tabman

Yeah we read that opinion alot. But it is just an opinion. Everything up until now is a push. It doesn't matter. How this country and really the world emerges from this crisis is all that matters.



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goodmore Wrote:
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> Yeah we read that opinion alot. But it is just an
> opinion. Everything up until now is a push. It doe
> sn't matter. How this country and really the world
> emerges from this crisis is all that matters.

FACT, not an opinion, Crooked Hillary destroyed 33,000 emails that were subpoenaed by Congress. If I had done something like that, I'd never see the light of day again. Anyone with half a brain knows that Sleepy Joe isn't mentally fit to serve as president. Do you think that he's mentally fit to serve as president? Is he the best that the Dems have to offer? If all that matters now is how the country and world emerges from this crisis, then the leftwing news media and the Dems need to get behind our president rather than bashing him every single day for political advantage.

tabman

Trump is the worst president in modern times. PERIOD. Apologists and justifiers need to stop. Right now Trump is killing Americans with his in-actions. The Republican party has been hijacked by a mad man. Questions?

midalake Wrote:
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> Trump is the worst president in modern times. PERI
> OD. Apologists and justifiers need to stop. Right
> now Trump is killing Americans with his in-actions
> . The Republican party has been hijacked by a mad
> man. Questions?

Yeah, what are you smoking? lol

tabman

tabman Wrote:
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> midalake Wrote:
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> > Trump is the worst president in modern times. PE
> RI
> > OD. Apologists and justifiers need to stop. Rig
> ht
> > now Trump is killing Americans with his in-actio
> ns
> > . The Republican party has been hijacked by a ma
> d
> > man. Questions?
>
> Yeah, what are you smoking? lol
>
> tabman


I do not do illegal drugs, and I sure as H don't apologize for someone else [trump]

For the record; Do not trust WHO

"Do not trust WHO. Probably the most astute statement on this thread! HH jim tn

You have no idea what Hillary would have done as President. To use the forum owners phrase....We don't know what we don't know. So you can insuate and speculate, but that is again falling flatly into the opinion column. Emails? WHO CARES? Impeached. Do you care? I don't. I know what our lying leader said in the beginning of this crisis. Shame on him.

goodmore Wrote:
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> You have no idea what Hillary would have done as P
> resident.

We certainly have seen what she has done in a minor position, bad resume. She was a rodent in our government, and not alone.

goodmore Wrote:
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> You have no idea what Hillary would have done as P
> resident. To use the forum owners phrase....We don
> 't know what we don't know. So you can insuate and
> speculate, but that is again falling flatly into t
> he opinion column. Emails? WHO CARES? Impeached. D
> o you care? I don't. I know what our lying leader
> said in the beginning of this crisis. Shame on him
> .

President Trump was right, it's the new Dems' HOAX. The virus is REAL and the hoax is the Dems falsely claiming that Trump's handling of the crisis is terrible. LINK

tabman

I don't recall any of this "wisdom" being posted 2 months ago AND dave e if you think I was Really asking Your advise on who to vote for then you need to check DSM-5 for NPD.