Tarsucci, Vista X, or Equinox for hunting coins in parks...

OK, which one would be top dog and why?

I'll have some funds in a few month to buy another detector besides the Equinox I already have.

Stay with the Equinox, better ID on the deep stuff. You can cherry pick nickels with it too. The Tarsacci and the Vista X might be deeper but you'll dig more trash.

A tone ID detector likely would have advantages in area where modern trash thrives.

Here’s the imo $64,000 question.
And I don’t hear detectors ranked or talked about this here much.

Which detector or detectors are odds on favorites to find most finds with one set of settings (assuming no emi) ?
Meaning which detector or detectors would have edge in unmasking/separation and depth with one set of settings on both high and low conductive targets?

Time detecting means a lot. And making settings changes and rehuntting sites usually doesn’t yield as many finds numbers wise as initial hunts (assuming detectorist has high skill set and knows their detector). And assuming area hunted not a spot where ground is disturbed or spot were targets get replenished like park and silver and gold rings and beach.

Tarssaci audio takes it of the race for coin machines IMO.... Go watch Aarons new video where he plants the hammered coin.....would you really want to chase deep silver with it?? Equinox whips the Vista X so bad it is not even funny for coin hunting features....

The Equinox wins hands down as the best all around detector. The Tarsacci might have a depth advantage in highly mineralised ground.

Badger in NH Wrote:
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> The Equinox wins hands down as the best all around
> detector. The Tarsacci might have a depth advantag
> e in highly mineralised ground.


Hi Badger

If you could? How about gold on a salt beach, wet sand and water? Rings and chains? I do not want to hijack the thread. So if you want to PM, that's great!

Thanks!



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midalake Wrote:
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> Badger in NH Wrote:
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> > The Equinox wins hands down as the best all arou
> nd
> > detector. The Tarsacci might have a depth advant
> ag
> > e in highly mineralised ground.
>
>
> Hi Badger
>
> If you could? How about gold on a salt beach, wet
> sand and water? Rings and chains?
>
> Thanks!


The wet ocean sand and saltwater are the Tarsaccis best environment. Inches deeper than the Equinox. The Tarsacci audio could use some improvement in the quality of the tones. Aside from that it's a great beach machine. I kind of wish I hadn't sold mine but our beach conditions have been dismal and it was sitting around for months without getting much use.

It picked up gold rings and silver coins really well at super depths. I didn't find or test any chains or micro jewelry.

Sorry, didn't see your edit in time.



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Any FBS machine,

Keith

“I don't care that they stole my idea . . I care that they don't have any of their own”
-Nikola Tesla

Badger, how do you know all this data on the Tarsacci?
Certainly it could NOT be from your vast amount of time you spent w your Tarsacci?
According to your own words you only used it 20 times. Hmmm, did you ever charge the second battery?
So please, stop commenting on the Tarsacci like you really KNEW how to run it.

Aaron

(According to your own words..)
Badger-
I've decided to sell my Tarsacci. I haven't been beach hunting as much as I had hoped which is what I bought it for. Our beaches have been sanded in for two winters in a row and I don't see that improving any time soon. I've been very pleased with its performance on the wet sand where it tested inches deeper than the Equinox but with the beaches the way they are, the detector isn't being used.

Excellent condition. Used less than 20 times. Never submerged or rained on.

TARSACCI - “Digging deeper, BEHIND the competition!”
[forums.tarsaccisales.com]



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calabash digger Wrote:
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> Tarssaci audio takes it of the race for coin machi
> nes IMO.... Go watch Aarons new video where he pla
> nts the hammered coin.....would you really want to
> chase deep silver with it?? Equinox whips the Vist
> a X so bad it is not even funny for coin hunting f
> eatures....


Calabash-
Get a .03 gram cut quarter, bury it at 4” in 800 dirt, and post it, just as I have. See how well your equinox does. Funny how you guys totally ignore that. You want head to heads, do it yourself.

Aaron

TARSACCI - “Digging deeper, BEHIND the competition!”
[forums.tarsaccisales.com]

Keith Southern Wrote:
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> Any FBS machine,
>
> Keith


Agree with Keith. After all these years the Explorer or Etrac is still the best for finding deep silver. Not the best at unmasking, but the audio and consistent ID (even at depth) is super in a trashy Park. Add the Sunray inline probe and it's a game changer. Searching past Bryce Brown's (Explorer) threads will show coins found in iron. A non-broken Nox would be my second choice....LOL



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Best thing to do is hold EQX 800 in one hand and Etrac or Explorer in the other. Go find high conducive coins and nickels. Lol

EQX ID less skewed with iron near nickels vs Etrac,,Explorer and even CTX.

Etrac, Explorer p, CTX ID less skewed when high conductor near iron.

These are tendencies. There can be exceptions (detecting scenarios) this may not hold up.

Explorer and Etrac poor nickel finders for folks who hunt by ear.
EQX 800 set up right is dynamite in this dept.

If Tarsacci had 4 or 5 tones with adjustable tone breaks it would be lot better for parks.

Some video to support my comments above.
EQX800 in this video has only original iron bias available for use. Not F2 iron bias.
[m.youtube.com]



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I have a Nox 800, an SE Pro, and a Musketeer advantage. Between the three of them I do pretty well finding silver in my old naily hunted out park, but at some point I would like to try the Tarsacci to see how it performs here. From what I have seen so far it looks like a good machine to negotiate the vast amount of bent nails that are making my life miserable at this old park. I am always game for trying knew tech.

Aaron said:
"Get a .03 gram cut quarter, bury it at 4” in 800 dirt, and post it, just as I have. ..."


I think you mean 0.3 gram, not .03 gram, as I recall from the video.
Still impressive, but quite a difference.
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For parks with trash...... the Nox. It does have a small coil which gets good depth, very good TID screen.... AND 50 tones.

Aaron Wrote:
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> Badger, how do you know all this data on the Tarsa
> cci?
> Certainly it could NOT be from your vast amount of
> time you spent w your Tarsacci?
> According to your own words you only used it 20 ti
> mes. Hmmm, did you ever charge the second battery?
> So please, stop commenting on the Tarsacci like yo
> u really KNEW how to run it.


I don't know what you mean by "all this data". I simply said that the Equinox is the best all around detector of the three listed and even said some nice things about the Tarsacci. What are you complaining about?

Those 20 or so times that I used it came to over 50 hours of use and much of that was testing. I think that qualifies me for an opinion. Please, let me know if I ever make any comments about the Tarsacci that aren't true.

It often seems as though all you are interested in is selling as many Tarsacci's as possible, even if it isn't the best choice for a particular purpose.

Aaron Wrote:
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> Badger, how do you know all this data on the Tarsa
> cci?
> Certainly it could NOT be from your vast amount of
> time you spent w your Tarsacci?
> According to your own words you only used it 20 ti
> mes. Hmmm, did you ever charge the second battery?
> So please, stop commenting on the Tarsacci like yo
> u really KNEW how to run it.
>
> Aaron
>
> (According to your own words..)
> Badger-
> I've decided to sell my Tarsacci. I haven't been b
> each hunting as much as I had hoped which is what
> I bought it for. Our beaches have been sanded in f
> or two winters in a row and I don't see that impro
> ving any time soon. I've been very pleased with it
> s performance on the wet sand where it tested inch
> es deeper than the Equinox but with the beaches th
> e way they are, the detector isn't being used.
>
> Excellent condition. Used less than 20 times. Neve
> r submerged or rained on.

Did you really think you and Keith could come out and start making claims about this unit and not get challenged to prove it????

The days of the metal detector MESSIAHS are over with the rise of social media...

I the Lord of detectors have deemed this detector worthy thus you must go buy one.....what a joke.

You are attacking Badger...you my friend are a HYPOCRITE you correction (sold discount) the English Chap Dave H one and he has had it for two days now he is the chief expert in the U.K on it.

You yourself are posting his videos like he knows the unit...

Badger used his 20 times....DAVE H 1 time...wonder who knows more about the unit?????????



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Aaron how many hours does a person have to have on the Tarsacci to talk about it??

How many hours you got on it?

Which part of Badger's post is false???????????

Of course you will not answer it!!

I don't hear it I will take NOX tones any day.
Maybe if I used one for awhile but from videos I don't get the Tarsacci tones.

calabash digger Wrote:
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> Tarssaci audio takes it of the race for coin machi
> nes IMO.... Go watch Aarons new video where he pla
> nts the hammered coin.....would you really want to
> chase deep silver with it?? Equinox whips the Vist
> a X so bad it is not even funny for coin hunting f
> eatures....

Get over yourself dude.
You are one bad dealer for the UNIT.

Aaron Wrote:
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> Badger, how do you know all this data on the Tarsa
> cci?
> Certainly it could NOT be from your vast amount of
> time you spent w your Tarsacci?
> According to your own words you only used it 20 ti
> mes. Hmmm, did you ever charge the second battery?
> So please, stop commenting on the Tarsacci like yo
> u really KNEW how to run it.
>
> Aaron
>
> (According to your own words..)
> Badger-
> I've decided to sell my Tarsacci. I haven't been b
> each hunting as much as I had hoped which is what
> I bought it for. Our beaches have been sanded in f
> or two winters in a row and I don't see that impro
> ving any time soon. I've been very pleased with it
> s performance on the wet sand where it tested inch
> es deeper than the Equinox but with the beaches th
> e way they are, the detector isn't being used.
>
> Excellent condition. Used less than 20 times. Neve
> r submerged or rained on.

I’ve been running the Tarsacci for over 15 months, & charged the batteries, (average of 25hrs per charge) more times than I can remember. My results speak for themselves.

Regarding Badger, he just said he used it 50hrs......I rest my case.

So...I gave that Tarsacci to Dave? Thats interesting. Do you know that for a fact? Actually, if the truth be known, Dave responded to the add I placed at Rogers Relics. It was a demo unit, for $1200.00 Go to Rogers and see it for yourself.

You Sir, are a trouble maker. You along w a few others have dragged this forum down, and drove many away, that have not come back. This is the first and the last time I will engage with you.

Good day to you Sir.

Aaron

TARSACCI - “Digging deeper, BEHIND the competition!”
[forums.tarsaccisales.com]

Don't underestimate a good ole' CZ and a guy who 'knows' how to use it you know like longer than a month or two or couple weeks or one day in a test garden.

So he had a good question and didn't get a very good answer.
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"Detectorist [ PM ]
Tarsucci, Vista X, or Equinox for hunting coins in parks... New

OK, which one would be top dog and why?"
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All he got was a fight.

No plus's and minus's for each detector and what they are capable of. How about better answers for a detector in mild and mineral ground.

I've been told don't bother with a Tarsacci in mild ground.

All these smart guys and not a very good answer to the question. What is each detector best suited for. The question was for hunting coins in a park. In mineral ground I don't know if the Tarsacci is good for park hunting and I don't think you want to dig super deep holes in a park.

Which detector/detectors are best for park hunting and why?

Equinox is by far the top dog for park hunting because of infinite notch discrimination, Recovery Speed, choice of hunting modes, choice of tones, simultaneous Multi frequency as well as single frequencies, Bluetooth wireless, etc, etc.

Tarsacci and Vista X don't even come close to what the Equinox offers.

The only thing the Tarsacci has going for it is the proven ability to see through salt and mineralization better than any VLF detector. If your ground does not have salt or high mineralization, there is no point in even considering the Tarsacci over the Equinox.

The Vista X is just a basic single frequency, beep and dig detector. You get a lot more for your money with the Equinox.



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You are right Rick I got side tracked here is the answer to the OP question of the WHY.... start video around 1 min 50 sec...this shows WHY it is a better choice than the Vista X and Tarsacci for coin hunting...
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Rick, N. MI Wrote:
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> So he had a good question and didn't get a very go
> od answer.
> --------------------------------------------------
> "Detectorist [ PM ]
> Tarsucci, Vista X, or Equinox for hunting coins in
> parks... New
>
> OK, which one would be top dog and why?"
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> All he got was a fight.
>
> No plus's and minus's for each detector and what t
> hey are capable of. How about better answers for a
> detector in mild and mineral ground.
>
> I've been told don't bother with a Tarsacci in mil
> d ground.
>
> All these smart guys and not a very good answer to
> the question. What is each detector best suited f
> or. The question was for hunting coins in a park.
> In mineral ground I don't know if the Tarsacci is
> good for park hunting and I don't think you want t
> o dig super deep holes in a park.
>
> Which detector/detectors are best for park hunting
> and why?


I gave some info. Supplied a video too.

OK here's more detail to my initial answer about the 3 units in question. I will leave the FBS machines out because that wasn't part of the question. By the way my ground is 4-5 bars so I speak for those conditions only.

I don't have the Vista X but I do have a Tesoro Bandido II uMax which the unit has been compared to. It's also been compared to the Tejon but in any case they are all beep and dig units. If you plan on hunting for coins with a beep and dig I guarantee you're going to be spending more time evaluating targets and digging more trash than necessary.

Tarsacci is a great machine and although I haven't owned it for as long as others (I'm on my second unit) I do have about 200 hours on the unit both testing and in field use. In my 4-5 bar dirt the TID is not useful for targets over 4" deep. Almost everything up averages to high tones so I would be digging just as much junk as I would with a beep and dig unit. Now the place the Tarsacci out shines the Equinox is depth. I've stated this in my other posts, I feel like the tarsacci is an inch to 2" deeper than the Equinox when it comes to ID on good targets. So if all you want to do is dig all the deep targets then the Trasacci might be the best unit for you. But as Tom has stated in mild ground the Equinox is deeper.

Equinox has proven to me over and over that it is the best choice for me if I'm only after coins. The target ID is very accurate to almost full depth even in my 4-5 bar dirt. 8" deep coins are about the max I can dig with the Equinox unless it's a big coin like a half or dollar. I can get a signal on deeper stuff but the ID isn't accurate and very erratic. Nickels are a rock solid 13, if the ID varies at all it's junk. copper pennies, dimes and quarters all have pretty accurate ID. I've even got good at digging Indian heads that ID in the zinc zone. So of the 3 the Equinox is the clear winner. If you're after relics and digging everything except iron any of the 3 would do just fine.

That's great information, Abenson. My dirt is also 4-5 bar, and I've been second guessing myself since I bought the EQX last month.

May eventually get the Tarsacci, but overall the EQX seemed like a better fit for me with the 50 tones and the fact that old coins are my primary interest since civil war relics are very rare in my area.

I'm sorry but the Tejon and Bandido II umax ain't remotely close to the performance you get out of the Vista X. The X has 2 tone audio and it handles mineralized so much better than either Tesoro.

88junior Wrote:
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> I'm sorry but the Tejon and Bandido II umax ain't
> remotely close to the performance you get out of t
> he Vista X. The X has 2 tone audio and it handles
> mineralized so much better than either Tesoro.

Not me that compared it to the X, others on other forums are the ones making that statement. Could be they don't have high minerals IDK. In any case I wouldn't beep and dig for coins when there are other better options.