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The rest of the questions are too technical for me..I will check with the engineers/testers and respond to those that are NOT confidential.

THe other questions - I will check with engineers and field testers and will respond to those that are NOT confidential.

Hi Dilek, I own 2 of your detectors and love them, I had one service issue on a coil 5 years ago, and it was promply taken care of by you. Very satisfied with you, and your products.
One question about the legend. I heard you say on your demonstation that EMI disappears at the touch of a button. Is it an automatic frequency shift? Thank you.

Nokta Detectors Wrote:
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> ghound Wrote:
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> > A guy asked you on FB if it was better than a No
> x
> > in any department in terms of performance, you s
> ai
> > d it was.
> > Can you tell us what it's better at?
>
>
> Ghound, come on... you have been criticizing every
> device this company put out...everything we do...
> for a few years now on this forum.
> Do you think I really take this as a real naive qu
> estion? Regardless of my answer, your mind is set.
> ..and since you are not my potential customer, why
> bother? In addition, I deleted my message to that
> guy and wrote that I want the answer to come from
> the actual users. Because he had the same mindset
> and was making fun of the product and bashing it r
> ight and left.
> Or how about this, like you are making fun of it..
> . we put a clock and an LED!
> I am here to respond to people who are REALLY inte
> rested, not people who have been bashing every sin
> gle thing we did in this industry, sorry.

Best reply I've seen in awhile

Hi Dilek,

#1. Will the Simplex waterproof headphones work with the Legend?
#2. Will the Legend's control buttons light up like those on the Simplex?

Thank you.

Lonnie / Florida

possum mo Wrote:
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> Hi Dilek, I own 2 of your detectors and love them
> , I had one service issue on a coil 5 years ago, a
> nd it was promply taken care of by you. Very satis
> fied with you, and your products.
> One question about the legend. I heard you say on
> your demonstation that EMI disappears at the touch
> of a button. Is it an automatic frequency shift?
> Thank you.

Hi! Thank you! I do not remember saying at the touch of a button but it is pretty easy... It has 13 frequency shifts as well as an automatic one that people mostly refer to it as noice cancellation.

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> Hi Dilek,
>
> #1. Will the Simplex waterproof headphones work w
> ith the Legend?
> #2. Will the Legend's control buttons light up li
> ke those on the Simplex?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Lonnie / Florida

Yes they will work with the Legend and the buttons do not light up because they are different than those on the Legend.

JCR Wrote:
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> Dilek, Thankyou for the opportunity to ask some pe
> rtinent questions.
>
> Can we expect the new Legend to be less effected b
> y EMI than the Anfibio series?
>
> Does Alper & the other Engineers feel the target I
> D tone & VDI have been improved in high mineral gr
> ound &/or at fringe depth?
>
> Are Concentric coils a possibility in the future?(
> the KR18C is outstanding)
>
> Will we be able to Save any adjustments made to th
> e Pre set modes? In addition to the 4 User custom
> modes.
>
> The tones sound very good.
> I hope the new Legend makes my Anfibio Multi my ba
> ckup general purpose machine.
>
> Thank you again. I know you are busy.

Hello Chris...checked with the testers and engineers (Alper is not on this project btw, working on another)...

Now when in single frequencies yes it will be affected less by EMI. Multi mode will be more prone to EMI compared to single freq (and that is to be expected) ..that is why we have the frequency shifts and noise cancellation.

Yes, the VDI has been imroved and the tones get softer as you hit a target at fringe depth.

The device will save all last used settings apart from user profiles.

Concentric coils - to my knowledge we have not worked on this .... we are asking customers what type of additional coils they would like to see and we we may work on a couple of more extra coils based on the customers' responses...

Hope this helps...



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NASA-Tom Wrote:
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> Dilek....... I am still SO impressed with the Nokt
> a/Makro Impacts ability to pick high-conductive co
> ins out of thick trash........and fairly easily. A
> djacent target separation characteristics are real
> ly good. Does the new SMF have this same (or bette
> r) ability over the Impact.,.,.,.,.,.,., or is it
> a requirement to switch out of Simultaneous....and
> use a single frequency?
> When you turn the unit 'off'...... are all of your
> settings 'saved'?

Hello!! I would say yes, given the fact that you now have a recovery speed adjustment in your hand versus pre-set recovery speeds on the Impact...It is not a requirement to switch out of multi but there will be conditions where you will see an advantage in switching multi to single OR VICE VERSA. If single fequencies offered no advantage under any circumstance, they would not be included in there to begin with.
And yes the devices saves the last used settings.

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> Hello.
> Nevertheless, I would venture to ask technical que
> stions, the answer to which will give a clearer pi
> cture of what to expect from the new product.
> 1. What is the minimum frequency in the detector w
> hen operating in multi-frequency mode?
> 2. How much can this low frequency be offset throu
> gh interference cancellation?
> 3. Does ground tracking in multi-frequency mode wo
> rk on the basis of one frequency, or is it based o
> n information from several frequencies?
> 4. In the multi-frequency mode, are data processed
> from any of several frequencies (for example, from
> three), or something else?
> 5. How does the Fer-Cond function work? Based on w
> hat data does this function work, and how accurate
> is it?
> 6. Does the Salt Beach mode cut the salt signal, o
> r does it use multiple frequencies to isolate the
> gold signals?

Hi there... I answered all other questions but the answers to your questions would be opening up the coding of the software so I apologize but all these answers must stay confidential.

Note:

2 pages so far and I have learned nothing! Salt Beach performance with moving wave wash is what I will keep my eye on.
Will wait for the testers.

Hello,
Any idea when we will start seeing videos from the testers?

Dilek, Thank you for all the replies and answering my questions as well. It all sounds encouraging to me as a very pleased Anfibio user. I am glad I have place a pre order for the new Legend. I am looking forward to receiving it.

Chris

Hi Dilek,
I have owned the Multi Kruzer, the Anfibio and the Simplex+WHP. As far as how well all of the detectors performed, they were great. My favorite was the Multi Kruzer, by far. However, I was greatly hampered by the detectors (all three) being too nose heavy. At 71 years old, I just could not use any of rhe detectors for more than around an hour before I had to stop detecting because I thought my arm might fall off! I ended up selling all three. I won't say what detector I have now, but will say it is much less lighter and has very lottle nose weight. If the Ledend is less nose heavy than the Simplex+, I will certainly look into the purchase. My question is 'Is the Legend less nose heavy than the Simplex+? I know for a fact that that being nose heavy is a big problem with a lot of us older guys that detect.

I recall something that the coils will be lighter.
If you look at the coils, they way they are designed they look thinner.
If that's the case, they probably used less potting epoxy, saving weight.
They may have even used lighter weight potting epoxy with lightweight saving filler.

If this is all true, the Legend should balance much better than the Simplex.
Especially when paired with a carbon fiber lower rod.
Without having a Legend to handle ....
Maybe Dilek can comment........

DeepTech Vista X with 3 search coils.
Works for me

Hi Dilek,

I would like to know if the controller is removeable with a screw in the back of the handle like the Simplex.

Send me an email if you would like.
wildwoodgallery4@gmail.com

Thank you,
Rick

With target ID being from 01-60 what part of that is Iron?

I can't seem to find the minelab home office response thread---could someone direct me.

ShovelNose Wrote:
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> With target ID being from 01-60 what part of that
> is Iron?

Ten

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> > is Iron?
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It would be cool if they expanded the iron ID on one of their relic modes. They made the relic detector that Keith Southern and Monte were instrumental in testing that was a great machine, they're all pretty good for relic hunting IMHO. I like that their audio is hugely customizable, as are break points, the adjustable iron audio, frequency pitch (I like cranking it higher so high conductive squeakers really pop out when hunting trashy iron infested sites. Their light and fast, and you cannot beat the price.

What are the thoughts of everyone now that we have had time to read the preliminary Users Manual? Hopefully NM is still considering input from the testers & keeping up with the comments on this forum. Hopefully NASA Tom is still to receive a Legend for evaluation. Keith Southern too. Can hardly wait for CalCobra to post a real hunt.
I'm fairly pleased in reading about it so far. I'm missing the Notch Tone & volume that was on previous models & also a Mineralization scale. VCO only available in Goldfield? No mode option for relics with lower frequency based on Goldfield?

Chris

Chris,

Yes
Yes and
Yes
to your first three questions/concerns.

(((And...... I'm not sure Nokta/Makro could ever turn a blind-eye to the publics requests/concerns))).

That is reassuring.
I have been trying to work up some possible custom user profiles for the different modes. Still need TIDs for the various multi offerings & single frequencies to gage consistency across the board. Hopefully some insight to each modes weighting & filtering goals from NM. The better to set up for various conditions & get the best potential from the machine. It's fun to plan out. I think it is going to be an excellent unit.

Chris

Back to an early question on 3rd party coils. Is there protection against home made or 3rd party coils? I realize you can partner with a coil firm but they may not think doing a Bigfoot type coil is mainstream (or as easy) - thus no such coil on a discriminating salt water capable detector today.

Back to an early question on 3rd party coils. Is there protection against home made or 3rd party coils? I realize you can partner with a coil firm but they may not think doing a Bigfoot type coil is mainstream (or as easy) - thus no such coil on a discriminating salt water capable detector today.

As detector technology becomes more technologically advanced....... it is becoming more difficult to create aftermarket coils. Especially with SMF. The integrated circuitry inside the coil of a SMF unit is indeed a bit more technical; and............... unless................ the Mfr is willing to 'release' its I.P. to an aftermarket Mfr.......... it is nearly impossible.

Making an A/D board for such a purpose is not beyond some detectorists capability. Several on Geotech up to the task as long as no lockout present.
Does the Legend have a complex coil circuit though….

For proprietary protection........ that would be a question that Dilek would need to address.

There is foxmd.ru that claims to cut out the circuit card and externalize it for the Equinox. I haven’t come across anyone here in the states that has purchased it though.

Believe me!!!!!.......... If a manufacturer could build a 'magic' (miracle) coil for their unit........ it would be done!!! EACH Mfr REALLY wants to be the 'trump-card' of the industry.
And.........if anyone understands the electronic-platform the best...... it would be the Chief Design Engineer and the entire design team. (This is to say......... Mfr's know every finite detail about their 'baby'.

BUT...... I DO have a small caveat (reservation). IF a Mfr ONLY builds coils.,.,.,.,.,.,., there is a possibility for that Mfr to possibly have a paradigm-shift mindset conceptual notion for a 'magic' coil. (( But that coil Mfr..... must be 'spot-on' with inductive & capacitive: impedance/resistance/reactance for THAT specific unit. ))

And ................ to the best of my knowledge................... only Minelab has 'shared' partial IP with (only) one aftermarket coil Mfr...... to independently produce aftermarket coils for ML products.

Keep in mind............ most of today's top-end detectors ...use 'smart-coils'. (In simple terms: electronics INSIDE the coil).