Something to love and another thing to hate about the Deus...

Briefly stopped at the worst trash laden city park the other day while learning the Deus. The good news is that it took me all of 30 seconds to learn how to pimpoint with laser like accuracy. Very easy, and the easiest of any detector I've used.

The bad. It just loves bottle caps more than any detector I've ever used. I know that there are techniques to avoid diffing them, but a $2,000 detector shouldn't respond so well to bottle caps...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/21/2012 02:24AM by Detectorist.

Detectorist Wrote:
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> The bad. It just loves bottle caps more than any
> detector I've ever used. I know that there are
> techniques to avoid diffing them, but a $2,000
> detector shouldn't respond so well to bottle
> caps...

Well i have used detectors, that are absolutely mad about bottlecaps...Deus is far from the worst, you could actually id them with this machine and hopefully they may improve bottlecap rejection in the upcoming firmware updates.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/21/2012 02:31AM by Etsija82.

Detectorist Wrote:
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> The bad. It just loves bottle caps more than any
> detector I've ever used. I know that there are
> techniques to avoid diffing them, but a $2,000
> detector shouldn't respond so well to bottle
> caps...


Your forgetting the Deus was designed to locate low conductors. Somewhere there is a video of how to distinguish a bottle cap from a coin. I believe you wiggle the coil over the target while moving the target towards the nose of the coil and the tone will get kind of spongy on a cap... it stays crisp on a coin.

Here is the link.
[www.findmall.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/21/2012 03:36AM by schultzie.

schultzie Wrote:
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I had no idea that the Deus was made to seek low conductors....

What lower than a steel bottle cap, then.


>
>
> Your forgetting the Deus was designed to locate
> low conductors. Somewhere there is a video of how
> to distinguish a bottle cap from a coin. I believe
> you wiggle the coil over the target while moving
> the target towards the nose of the coil and the
> tone will get kind of spongy on a cap... it stays
> crisp on a coin.
>
> Here is the link.
> [www.findmall.com]

With a little practice its fairly eary to hear the differnce in a bottle cap and a coin. Its all in the audio with the above method.

Detectorist Wrote:
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> I had no idea that the Deus was made to seek low
> conductors....
>
> What lower than a steel bottle cap, then.

It's not going to reject bottle caps because it is made to detect low conductors... relics, gold and other European coins.

Well....Coinstrike had the same problem....along with the Ace 350..... although there are ways to tell its mind boggling that a 2 grand unit would have that problem that was solved by most manufacturers 20 years ago....cross that baby off my list as my area had a lot of beer drinkers and area is loaded with them...indeed many areas have few and
not a problem so take that into consideration as for one the Coinstrike got me some real deep silver but bit the dust because of the bottlecap problem....personally unit was made for overseas use where they don't have the problem and imagine many U.S. areas are the same..Again no perfect unit as all have their give and takeaways and appreciate the input and thanks for sharing....

Guys, use the silencer feature against the bottlecaps if you must..put it to 3 or 4, it will make those bottlecaps sound bad.

DD coils and VLF machine's...that combo loves bottle cap's..LOL!!!

Keith

Too true.

I always found concentric coils handle bottle caps better.

But those DD's are sure nice to have.

Coils, I mean.

Yep put a concentric on a Ace 350...no problem and understand some guys are experimenting with an edge coil wiring it different and it eliminates the Coinstrike problem and bottlecaps so imagine there is a way around the problem posted initially on the Deus.....

It seems like minelab is the only one who can make a DD coil the doesn't love steel bottle caps. They may be heavy,But they are damn good machines!

I've had 3 Explorers. Damn good machines. Not perfect, though. They liked to false on deep iron. Took a lot of practice to figure it out. Great machines, though.




Harold,ILL. Wrote:
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> It seems like minelab is the only one who can make
> a DD coil the doesn't love steel bottle caps. They
> may be heavy,But they are damn good machines!

Harold,ILL. Wrote:
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> It seems like minelab is the only one who can make
> a DD coil the doesn't love steel bottle caps. They
> may be heavy,But they are damn good machines!

I don't have a problem with my V3i... will ID a bottle cap every time.

Oh yeah, It doesn't weigh a ton either!



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I thought V3's would ID steel bottle caps as Quarters?

Harold,ILL. Wrote:
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> I thought V3's would ID steel bottle caps as
> Quarters?

The vdi will be same as a quarter....but the dominant frequency will be 22.5.....not 2.5 like it would be for quarter....and....there's also a bottlecap reject setting that can be used to start to breakup iron,etc...but should be used carefully as good targets at some point will start to lose some fidelity...works very well. gl and hh

I posted this on LowBoys "Jury" post too:

I got this info from another Deus user and it was truly AMAZING.

In hunting the littered parks that have thousands of crown caps (beer caps) using the 4K or 8K hertz frequencies gives the quarter/silver signals VDI's of mid 80's while the crown caps come in at mid 90's. I used the 4K and was astounded at the coinage/goodies coming out. Not too many silver coins but a fun few days of detecting figuring out those trashy areas I couldn't detect before.

Another benefit (for me) was to get out of the 18K frequency mentality. I'd used that frequency exclusively in order to pick up the small gold. The 3K was perfectly good at getting me some silver from very small earring parts to dimes and quarters. It turns out...from what I read yesterday that the 8K and 12K frequencies could actually be the deepest on coinage.

I see the tide seems to be turning and many more people are getting convinced that the XP Deus is a detector to be tried. Hopefully when some of the more experienced U.S. detectorists get the Deus in their hands we'll see some interesting results.

As for me...70% of my decision was made by the lightness and compactness of this great machine. In 14 months I've had ZERO problems and even updated from version 1.0 to 2.0 from the Internet with ease.

HH Joe