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XP GOLD MAXX POWER (GMP) - Field Test
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Re: XP GOLD MAXX POWER (GMP) - Field Test September 04, 2014 01:34AM |
First run with the XP GMP this afternoon. Happy with the conductors but still learning the tones. (Hence the iron)
Listening for the faint repeatable tones had me digging a lot of empty holes. Typical for this area, you can actually dig a deep target and break up a piece of iron in the process-Erasing the original item you were digging for.
Absolutely need many more hours to get a hold of the tones. One item of note was discerning the good solid tones from the faint tones that seemed to have a scratchy end. (post amble)
On to more trials!!!
A little rivet that came out on my second dig. About 6" down and was nice and repeatable...
EDIT: OK this is crazy good... My second tatget with the GMP is GOLD?!! I just looked up MS&CO and its a wholesaler of gold and silver. And this was found in a small area that has been gone over by me and several other very good detectorists MANY MANY times. AND MISSED!! Until now-Thanks a ton Tom!!!!
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/04/2014 01:33PM by SilverPeter.
Listening for the faint repeatable tones had me digging a lot of empty holes. Typical for this area, you can actually dig a deep target and break up a piece of iron in the process-Erasing the original item you were digging for.
Absolutely need many more hours to get a hold of the tones. One item of note was discerning the good solid tones from the faint tones that seemed to have a scratchy end. (post amble)
On to more trials!!!
A little rivet that came out on my second dig. About 6" down and was nice and repeatable...
EDIT: OK this is crazy good... My second tatget with the GMP is GOLD?!! I just looked up MS&CO and its a wholesaler of gold and silver. And this was found in a small area that has been gone over by me and several other very good detectorists MANY MANY times. AND MISSED!! Until now-Thanks a ton Tom!!!!
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/04/2014 01:33PM by SilverPeter.
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Re: XP GOLD MAXX POWER (GMP) - Field Test September 06, 2014 02:29AM |
Got out again on the iron grounds and had a solid 3-3/4 hours of straight detecting time. Got around 8 conductors. All in the 4" to 7" range. Still a big challenge finding the tone range I want to be in. This may not have the depth I desire but great on the small conductors in this super tuff area. In fact I buried a modern nickel laying flat at 7" and could not pick it out... Yes loose dirt on top but I am often detecting behind others and need to be able to get in this range. Moved the ground knob to the second letter "C" and the sens just touching the red. Lot's more false signals today that had me chasing after nothing. I may need to get a pinpointer but feel with the tight foot print-I should be right on top of the signals I am after???
All in all so far so good and testing a dime next to a chunk of iron on the surface is helping me get the tones I am after. There certainly is a distinct difference between the solid coin tone and the broken, falling tone you get with a chunk of iron. However beyond the 4-6 inch range, those 2 tones (coin/iron) seem to meld together and completely fool me into thinking I have a conductor in the hole. I may work on building a test garden in my yard despite it being the ironized sand base. I did try to burry a dime (flat) and a nickel (on edge) in the area I was detecting today, but lost them both, and not able to detect them at the 6-7 inch range I had them buried at. Pretty excited to see what the GMP can do once I get through the learning curve.
Got a great harmonica reed. Larger target and aprox. 8" deep. Love finding those!!!!
What was once impossible..... is now easy and obvious. BUT.......... if : You don't know...what you don't know........ it continues to appear/look impossible.
-Thomas Dankowski
All in all so far so good and testing a dime next to a chunk of iron on the surface is helping me get the tones I am after. There certainly is a distinct difference between the solid coin tone and the broken, falling tone you get with a chunk of iron. However beyond the 4-6 inch range, those 2 tones (coin/iron) seem to meld together and completely fool me into thinking I have a conductor in the hole. I may work on building a test garden in my yard despite it being the ironized sand base. I did try to burry a dime (flat) and a nickel (on edge) in the area I was detecting today, but lost them both, and not able to detect them at the 6-7 inch range I had them buried at. Pretty excited to see what the GMP can do once I get through the learning curve.
Got a great harmonica reed. Larger target and aprox. 8" deep. Love finding those!!!!
What was once impossible..... is now easy and obvious. BUT.......... if : You don't know...what you don't know........ it continues to appear/look impossible.
-Thomas Dankowski
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Re: XP GOLD MAXX POWER (GMP) - Field Test September 07, 2014 08:47PM |
Question on the Iron Volume setting. If I understand correctly, the zero setting on that particular control is all the way (to the left) counter clockwise??
On my test piece, I noticed when I turned the Iron Volume control clockwise, (to the right) the single iron chunk was a broken and clearly a non dig-able target. Running the coil over the dime taped to the iron chunk, it gave off a great signal, not perfect mind you but repeatable and clearly a signal to dig for.
So am I off the path here with my settings??
Here is a little photo of my test piece... Right to left is: 1) iron nail with sharp point 2) clad quarter 3) iron 4) iron with clad dime taped to the top. Buried 3" down.
Lastly-My clad quarter (not pictured) buried at a 45 degree angle at 6" gives off a barely noticeable high tone-Scratchy but repeatable with a careful sweep cadence. Pretty good depth considering the difficult soil I am in. Thanks for looking!!
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 09/07/2014 09:04PM by SilverPeter.
On my test piece, I noticed when I turned the Iron Volume control clockwise, (to the right) the single iron chunk was a broken and clearly a non dig-able target. Running the coil over the dime taped to the iron chunk, it gave off a great signal, not perfect mind you but repeatable and clearly a signal to dig for.
So am I off the path here with my settings??
Here is a little photo of my test piece... Right to left is: 1) iron nail with sharp point 2) clad quarter 3) iron 4) iron with clad dime taped to the top. Buried 3" down.
Lastly-My clad quarter (not pictured) buried at a 45 degree angle at 6" gives off a barely noticeable high tone-Scratchy but repeatable with a careful sweep cadence. Pretty good depth considering the difficult soil I am in. Thanks for looking!!
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 09/07/2014 09:04PM by SilverPeter.
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Re: XP GOLD MAXX POWER (GMP) - Field Test September 09, 2014 02:27AM |
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To expedite your learning-curve via reducing your audible 'human fatigue' factor...... I recommend turning the iron volume down to 'no' iron audio output. This is one in very few metal detectors that you can do this...... and have success. Other detectors..... if you Disc out iron (or..... if available..... turn down the iron volume)......... these other detectors will give you ghost signals, falses..... leading to time-consuming frustration. On the GMP platform...... it is substantially more intelligible........ a true 'value-added' attribute...... with minimal ghost/fatigue factor imposed.
The GMP manual copy I have is a little unclear on the Iron Volume control, and which way it goes. But as I gather the further the right or clockwise you turn it, that decreases the audible level of iron as I understand it?? It sure seems to test that way and what a difference that single control makes.
Heading out again Tuesday to my favorite iron grounds that dates back to the 1870's... Another report then!!! Really appreciate your guidance!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/09/2014 02:29AM by SilverPeter.
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Re: XP GOLD MAXX POWER (GMP) - Field Test September 10, 2014 02:20AM |
Latest items picked out from my first 90 minutes of detecting. The amount of small indicators is growing for sure against the iron items. I will add that this small group of items came from a 6' by 6' area.
One item of interest was the fact that the little conductive bits all were in the company of iron and not detectable by my Minelab SE. Pretty good start for sure. There is a nuance that I am still trying to figure out however.... While these small conductive bits are readable down to the 4-5" mark, coins are still to tuff to eek out in the 7-9" range. The high scratchy repeatable tones which seem to indicate deep coins are still elusive once I dig down the first 8 to10 inches.
Moving the Iron Volume knob to the right does seem to help distinguish the iron tones-However the deeper iron bits are still sounding nice with a mid tone audible that says dig me. Back to re-reading this post.
EDIT Sept 11-2014:
I want to add a few more things here-As I put more hours in this machine, I am realizing the extent to which this machine will chase after conductive targets in my particular ground situation. (As stated above) The tuning of the Iron volume, has been a real eye opener and keeping the sensitivity high, I am amazed at what this machine can do. While I don't feel competent to make any educated evaluations until I have hit the 100 hour use mark, I can say in this early-early stage that this machine far exceeds my abilities... However I am playing catch up just as quickly as I can.
I also purchased a stand alone pin pointer to assist me with my target search as I learn the GMP... Of course this is for larger targets only!! Testing the Whites pointer on the small (really small) targets, the end has to be within 1/4 to 1/2 inch to pick those up. A testament to the strength of the GMP on the little bits. Pretty amazing. Anyways, the pointer will hopefully help as I learn to pin point properly in time.
Should have another 10 hours on the GMP by end of day Sunday. Thanks all!
What was once impossible..... is now easy and obvious. BUT.......... if : You don't know...what you don't know........ it continues to appear/look impossible.
-Thomas Dankowski
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/12/2014 02:51AM by SilverPeter.
One item of interest was the fact that the little conductive bits all were in the company of iron and not detectable by my Minelab SE. Pretty good start for sure. There is a nuance that I am still trying to figure out however.... While these small conductive bits are readable down to the 4-5" mark, coins are still to tuff to eek out in the 7-9" range. The high scratchy repeatable tones which seem to indicate deep coins are still elusive once I dig down the first 8 to10 inches.
Moving the Iron Volume knob to the right does seem to help distinguish the iron tones-However the deeper iron bits are still sounding nice with a mid tone audible that says dig me. Back to re-reading this post.
EDIT Sept 11-2014:
I want to add a few more things here-As I put more hours in this machine, I am realizing the extent to which this machine will chase after conductive targets in my particular ground situation. (As stated above) The tuning of the Iron volume, has been a real eye opener and keeping the sensitivity high, I am amazed at what this machine can do. While I don't feel competent to make any educated evaluations until I have hit the 100 hour use mark, I can say in this early-early stage that this machine far exceeds my abilities... However I am playing catch up just as quickly as I can.
I also purchased a stand alone pin pointer to assist me with my target search as I learn the GMP... Of course this is for larger targets only!! Testing the Whites pointer on the small (really small) targets, the end has to be within 1/4 to 1/2 inch to pick those up. A testament to the strength of the GMP on the little bits. Pretty amazing. Anyways, the pointer will hopefully help as I learn to pin point properly in time.
Should have another 10 hours on the GMP by end of day Sunday. Thanks all!
What was once impossible..... is now easy and obvious. BUT.......... if : You don't know...what you don't know........ it continues to appear/look impossible.
-Thomas Dankowski
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/12/2014 02:51AM by SilverPeter.
