Troy shadow campaign

Let's start a campaign and see if we can get MR. Troy to design a new detector. If you'd like to see it add your name and maybe someone who knows or has contact with him can show the list to him.

Brian

Cough up a million dollars to fund the project.
Keith mentioned he talks to Troy.

DeepTech Vista X with 3 search coils.
Works for me

I always wondered about the evolution of the various Troy models. I've never used one. I think I've read that there were relationships with Tesoro and Fisher for coil production. Then maybe a couple of models were based on Tesoro machines and some were completely original. They resemble Tesoro machines. Does anyone know the facts?

Troy X2 and X3 were designed by Troy and manufactured by Tesoro for him. The X5 was Manufactured by Fisher for Troy and built to his specs. or design.

X2 is a Tesoro Silver Sabre Umax with coin check
X3 and X5 are built by Fisher to Troys Specs

DeepTech Vista X with 3 search coils.
Works for me

I heard he had another machine ready to roll out and it didn't happen for whatever reason.

Have him sign up here and see what kind of support he gets:

[www.kickstarter.com]

I cant fully remember but I think that maybe Troy Galloway was the one who developed the Low Noise High Gain for the micro circuit.(((Remember the first micro Circuit was the sidewinder but was not a high gain circuit))) . I think thats how he got envolved with tesoro then they had the falling out after they built a X2 for him to distribute under his company..

“I don't care that they stole my idea . . I care that they don't have any of their own”
-Nikola Tesla



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Tough for the little guy to make it without backing. Only way its going to happen if he makes a unit for a specific company as an employee....Indeed Troy had some good ideas and a new unit from him would be welcomed...I believe he worked for Tesoro before he went out on his own...

Troy had a lot of good ideas for detectors but he also burned a lot of bridges that can't be rebuilt. In such a small community of detector manufacturers, that was a death kneel. I have talked with him in email and on the phone. He seemed to like to blame others for his troubles a little too much for my liking. There's a saying that goes:

If you run into an a-hole during the day, then you just ran into an a-hole.

If you run into a-holes all day long every day, then YOUR the a-hole. Haha

Bflo Wrote:
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> Let's start a campaign and see if we can get MR.
> Troy to design a new detector. If you'd like to
> see it add your name and maybe someone who knows
> or has contact with him can show the list to him.
>
>
> Brian


Your idea is extremely do-able with these crowdfunding sites. Perhaps Keith can contact Troy and if he wants he could set an amount of money that needs to be raised and if the project is funded he gets the money, if not it goes back to the people. (Or you can be more flexible here.)

Some great and innovative products come out through crowdfunding. Look into:
[www.indiegogo.com]
[www.kickstarter.com]
etc.

I like that ise of fundme...all I see on facebook, is lazy people begging for money for a vacation, or a car, pisses me off. Ok, sorry to stray/vent,lol.

I think you're completely wrong. 100% wrong, as a matter of fact.

Daniel Tn Wrote:
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> Troy had a lot of good ideas for detectors but he
> also burned a lot of bridges that can't be
> rebuilt. In such a small community of detector
> manufacturers, that was a death kneel. I have
> talked with him in email and on the phone. He
> seemed to like to blame others for his troubles a
> little too much for my liking. There's a saying
> that goes:
>
> If you run into an a-hole during the day, then you
> just ran into an a-hole.
>
> If you run into a-holes all day long every day,
> then YOUR the a-hole. Haha

I doubt it would be feasible for him to produce a new detector. it would be hard to beat the economics of the Racer/Nokta and still be profitable.

Detectorist Wrote:
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> I doubt it would be feasible for him to produce a
> new detector. it would be hard to beat the
> economics of the Racer/Nokta and still be
> profitable.


Fair point but quite often we pay a premium for quality, design, etc.
I think of good instruments in this way. Guess it is true of detectors as well. You can get an Omega 8000 for 500 or so bucks (?) or a Minelab CTX for 2000. Is the Minelab 4 times as good?
Well, I've had both and would say definitely not, perhaps maybe 25% or more better, with more features. But people will pay for those extra features, performance benefits, water proofing, name, etc.

I think a semi "throwback" detector by someone like Troy, might actually succeed. To do so though, might really require the cooperation of Fisher, etc. But who knows, you can assemble
things pretty cheap overseas, and wouldn't be shocked if he did it mostly on his own.

Here is hoping anyway...

So should companies just stop making new detectors, the racer is the cure All? Surely that is not what your saying. I'm kidding with you, the racer might be a nice machine but it really doesn't spark an interest with me.

I used the Racer as an example of a good foreign made detector. The market is crowded with great detectors under $1,000.

All I usually here about is how the little Chinaman gets on plane and flys to America - Buys detector and flys bach to China to copy & mass produce detector -

How about American jumps on a plane with detector - Fly to Chinese manufacturing plant & get them to manufacture - FT do it because its cheaper to manufacture offshore than to use US manufacturers - Surely IMO that would be Mr Troys best option if there are no more bridges to burn in the USA -

Just a thought

I hate rustics idea. Thats what has went wrong in America in the first place.
If Makro was the end all, then nobody would buy a Deus, ctx , gpx, etc. If Troy came up with a good solid, American built detector for $1200 or less, it would sell.

I could'nt agree more with you deathray - However even some of the metal detectors manufactured in the USA have that Chinese made feel about them - Everyone worldwide knows the USA used to make things tough and made to last however things have certainly changed over the years as we have seen endless corporations heading off to China to get their Big Brand name products made - It stands to reason that that would be a good place to start if you are looking at getting a product made - Then simply let your marketing create the illusion it was made somewhere else - lol

For decades.......... folks have asked for 'lightweight' detectors. The direct/inevitable side effect is: they feel cheap ( "Chinese feel" ). What do you want?

To a degree you are correct but radio shack makeup is another aspect. Heck my F-5 is light and well made to name one unit while the omega 800 is light but that's where it ends...

I think balance is more important than weight.

NASA-Tom Wrote:
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> For decades.......... folks have asked for
> 'lightweight' detectors. The direct/inevitable
> side effect is: they feel cheap ( "Chinese feel"
> ). What do you want?

With Respect Sir -

There is certainly an obvious difference between looking and feeling cheap and a quality product - You in particular should know this

You only have to compare FT detectors with those coming out of Turkey to see the clear difference in design & build quality -

What do I want? = A quality product at a fair price backed up with worldwide support........



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deathray Wrote:
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> I think balance is more important than weight.

I couldnt agree more - The Fors CoRe is a good example

((( There's some truth here! )))








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I think most of us here are open minded and would support anyone trying to bring us a new metal detector. The question is, does Troy want to get back in the business? If not, then whats the point.

That would be awesome if He could come out with a Troy X-5 with some sort of Tone I.D. as it already has awesome Modulated audio. He seem's to be able to make a light weight Detector that still felt sturdy and not cheap and plastic. He used all top shelf material that is one reason they were priced like they were.

Yep, the Troy X-5 was super deep, great iron discrimination, and very lightweight. I wonder if he could sell the design to Nokta and they might add tone i.d. that's it. Nothing else would be needed.

Folks are inpressed when they can air test a quarter or a nickel at 13" with an 11" or 12" coil. The X5 did 15" with the 9" coil. This was consistent. If an X5 didn't do it, something was wrong. No need to cherry pick this model or that model. They all did it.



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