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My large coil is the Ultimate 13. Small coil is tied right now between the 4.5 x 7 Excelerator and the Coiltech 6". The Coiltech is just a bit deeper and the 4.5 x 7 seems barely better at on edge coins and small targets but the differences are small.
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Here's a guy who's run every coil imaginable on the platform talking about the Ultimate. He runs an Explorer. On my Etrac I find it separates on par with the stock coil, maybe a bit better. While I have never owned an SEF I have hunted around folks who use them. I found again, it seperated on par with them but caught the fringe targets with better audio.
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My two cents. I run an Etrac and the Ultimate is my standard coil these days. Many folks who have used lots of coils give the same report. It seems like the depth and separation are neck and neck with the SEF but the Ultimate gives better audio. It particularly likes copper and silver. It just comes through clearer and louder on deep targets. Not parting with mine!
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Yup Kieth turned me onto this one and thanks for doing it. It beat the stuffing out of the 5" Sunray when it came to one edge coins especially. What's going to be interesting is I have a 6" Coiltek coming and it's going to get run against it to see how they compare.
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While at the opposite end of size I've hunted with a friend who bought the NEL Big coil for the AT-Pro. Yeah, it's a monster to swing but it was also a depth monster as well. We were on a fresh water beach and comparing undug targets with my Etrac with Ultimate 13 coil.
It ran at full sensitivity and was very quiet. This was an old, old beach and the good stuff was very deep. We pull
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I think it can depend on soil and subjective opinion. Here in central FL the Ultimates get the nod. They hit copper and silver harder then the stock coil and can be run much hotter then the stock coil. They seem to be 1 to two inches deeper but they ID and give more reliable audio on fringe targets. Both are great coils though!
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This guy is blind. Hiked the entire length of the Appalachian trail before he got his guide dog. He's still out there going. He depended a great deal on guidance from those he ran into along the way. Many stretches of this trail are very remote. Look how well he did!
I've had lots of good experiences in the middle of nowhere with complete strangers.
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When I was a young man I did a lot of back packing. We had the occasional grizzly bear, black bear, rattle snake, coyotes aplenty in the area. Never had a problem as long as you knew what you were about. There were always people terrified of the thought of what could be, I decided to just ignore them. In those days in those places other humans were rare, just as I preferred it.
Then I took to
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Thanks Tom. Yes the upper area was producing some lead fishing weights at roughly the same depth as the greenies and the sand was hard. It's sometimes surprising to me how marked the difference in the densities are when you're digging in this stuff. There's a hard line of demarcation between the sand types.
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Tom, some good erosion the last week north of you. I imagine it was down in your neck of the woods as well. I'm trying to balance the idea of sand density gradients with wether or not the added depth is needed. On Daytona, New Smyrna in these conditions the layers of large grain heavy sand is about 8 to 10 inches and that's where I was hitting the really crusty greenies at. Two lines of
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So most folks think FL beaches are just pure white sand. Welllllll not always. On my two closest beaches this is what we get with erosion events. Normally I hunt the wet and dry sand with my Etrac. Since I run it pushing manual sense pretty high there's always a lot of chatter. I wonder if I'm losing some depth even though I'm still hitting strong down to 10" or so. Makes me t
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Different states, different self defense laws. Know your laws, not the hearsay. I spent time with a few lawyers making very sure of the truth.
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Not only CC but also one sided headphones. Pays to be able to hear whats around you urban or rural. Alone on a night beach with no external awareness/hearing? Not me.
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Keep thinking young!
I lost an old friend a few years ago, he was 102. We met when he was 82 and solo sailing his boat from Maine to Texas and back one year. He had just come off learning to ride a motorcycle and taking a Kawasaki from VA to WA to spend a month on an Alaskan crab boat his son captained (think Deadliest Catch). Then he drove it back home. Sold the sailboat when he was 92 becaus
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Have you tried comparing signals on undug targets? He finds one and lets you see if you're hearing it before he digs it? Might be very educational.
Or it might be that he's just reading the site better? Or it may be a hearing issue. I have a drop in part of my high range hearing so I really punch the signal on my Etrac so I can hear the quieter high range noises. I also found headph
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Yup, you turned me on to that one as well. It beats the 5" Sunray on edge on coins as well. Sold the 5". Still have the AT-Pro as well with the 5 x 8. Would love a GMP but a new Detector isn't in the cards right now so I'm just trying to wring out as much as I can from what I have.
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The Fisher organization has the treasure coast leases locked up. You sub lease from them. You can detect the beach above the tide line and that's pretty much it in the lease areas. Been there, done that and goin' back!
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Everyone actually has different hearing abilities so headphones can be a pretty personal flavor kind of thing to a point. I like Gray Ghosts and use the one sided ones known as "Rattlers" because I like one ear open to the world around me. I put the cup on my good ear. They have high tones that some don't like but I have a bit of a high range loss and they seem to make up for it an
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When I went to your website these old eyes saw specs for what appeared to be gen 1, if I'm reading it wrong then my apologies. I'm familiar with up through gen 4 equipment. Have not had a chance to experience I Gen. Are you saying it's superior to gen 4? Thermal imaging is wonderful stuff in the right settings but priced out of the range of most non LE / military users.
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Don't know of many security operations who want night vision with old tech, gen 1 intensifiers. That's as low as you go in image quality with night vision and that's what they list for their equipment. Gen 1 tubes typically have a pretty short useable life as well. Can't say it's very impressive.
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I get a different result, in the right spots, in my fairly inert FL soil with an Etrac. In one somewhat trashy but very old spot I often hunt near where I live I can hit the deepest targets when running my sens within a point or two of wide open. Yes, your ears get a little tired of listening to the chatter but when I've located something I suspect is a deep old coin if I turn the sens down
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While this is not metal detecting related I could use some help from some folks that I know are knowledgeable of Civil War era stuff.
I was recently given these ribbons and buttons and discovered I had a great grandfather who was a Union soldier and one of the early members of the Grand Army of the Republic. These are a collection of Encampment ribbons of the GAR and some from their ladies aux
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I might put in how much of our advanced weaponry systems were a spin off of space technology research. Some say, big deal! Well, it is. It's not a really kind world out there if you fall behind on that curve and others want what you have. Having friends in that industry until recently that's another area being cut off.
Suppose we never developed the GPS system? That took a space pro
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Well, I'd had hopes of one for deep jewelry on our sanded in beaches but with the current state of my economy it's going to be a long wait! Be interesting to see how it does in real life.
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