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it will be night and day in performance... I used to use one of those you have in the video...They are a non motion machine also but the depth you will find really struggles compared to the newer P.I.'s with ground balance...
there's a few option's on the market..
TDI
Infinium
gold scan
Minelab's
I like the infinium for relic hunting when comparing it against a TD
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Keith Southern
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with topic's not really related to detecting...they have removed a couple I know of...
so yes the At-Pro is very sensitive in 2 way's HA-HA...
nothing said that time wont heal though...
Keith
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Keith Southern
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I for one have wondered when a larger coil would become available if ever? Hope it's built on the Bi-axial platform...
I would like to see a 4x6 Bi-axial.. I know we have the 5" round but I would bet a 4x6 Mini-Bi-Axial would be amazing in iron....(Could you imagine the separation on that one!!!!!)
Good info hope it play's out.....
Keith
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Keith Southern
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I would rather have a machine work 100% than be crippled in an area that could be fixed MAYBE quite easily...we will see how it plays out with the issue....
Either way it's not the deepest and it's not the fastest but it's a good combo unit...
as always keep a couple of different machine's for your hunting need's
No one machine will be good all around..
for me
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Keith Southern
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that is if history repeat's itself......we had the 1270 for the 70th anniversary ...F-75 for the 75th, and we are 2 week's away from the 80th year so ...
Maybe a dual/multi freq in the newer housing's
I bet something is around the corner..
Keith
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Keith Southern
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the 3.0 ones were the ones that came on and said Gold Bug
I believe when they made the G-2 say G-2 on start up they changed it to say 1 also on the version..(probably the same as the GB-Pro 3.0?)
Just a cosmetic change....who wanted a G-2 to say Gold Bug HA-HA
the GBSE were 2.9 the GB-Pro is 3.0 ...
cant get a GBSE anymore so I guess it's now a MOOT point...
believe the GB-Pr
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Keith Southern
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And I never intended any thanks ( But thank's) just like the mutual flow of knowledge the internet allow's...
there's no one person that has all the answer's......
every little tid-bit of information gathered helps all of us in the long run...
Addressing your question on the Garrett
My take on it is it's great all around machine serious depth,fantastic audio,
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Keith Southern
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with Garret coil's....doing some sleuth work I have come across other instances of the same type problem on the other Garrett machine's...
Might be back down to having to reduce the sens down less than half in certain environ's...
I said from the get go it was a noisy machine and the reason was the falsing from vegetation ....Can you work around it? yes
But it could be so
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Keith Southern
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I have used both and have one which is it?
The G-2 is the winner.....
At least in my dirt it is..
And I love the GBSE..
the G-2 is a further enhanced version....Is it the same as the GB-Pro? maybe ....Probably.....But most surely a step above the GBSE...
here's what I have noticed with my G-2
1-Louder audio with headphone's
2-More iron resolution takes more num
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Keith Southern
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I have shown it around a few times but I am proud of it......
It took me a quarter of a century to get one.....
it was always in the back of my mind and the feeling is hard to describe when you finally pull one in a nice secluded deep wood's house site...
always wanted to go back and see if anymore are there
Keith
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what I have seen from the same machine's....
yes all the nail trick test and fast shutdown demonstration's don't work on the 1236 or Edge but they will run with the big boy's and even hunt behind the big boy's in tricky iron...
1236 still my favorite Fisher for trash Hunting...
Alway's wished the Edge would of had some kind of ground monitor on............
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Keith Southern
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everywhere I hunt is overgrown to some extent and the falsing causes a lot of headache's....
Glad someone else has seen the issue,,,I think everyone is seeing the twisting false so it's a universal problem...
You are the first to see what I see on the twig falsing..
Check some small nails close to the coil and see if they High tone....lay them N/S and Sweep E/W...could it be th
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Keith Southern
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the musky was turned off and on during target analysis ...I knew the cz was interfering with it by a clicking sound in my headphone's...
the token's actually came out of a spot I had really worked hard prior by-myself ......but did check 2 of his token's before digging and I could not hear them ?? Sens maxed zero disc he turned his off while I was analyzing ..I did the same for
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Keith Southern
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..I was hunting undisturbed ground a few years back and came upon a guy running a CZ-6A.....He was around a tree in the wood's digging dropped Spencer bullet's with the case's still on...There .56 caliber and pretty long with the brass casing ...he had dug some pretty deep holes around1-12 inches deep and had about 4 or so in his pocket...I asked him of he minded if I swung his ar
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Keith Southern
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the Bi-Axial gets way more depth and seems to separate about as good as the 5...I hear ya on the cz loving iron but they are deep..
But yes for a turn on a go machine that reject's iron great the musky is hard to beat...
Keith
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Keith Southern
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on the deck..
I know it does not mean a lot but it does show recovery speed and separation of the machine ..I was hoping with the audio it would blend it together but it just wont...
nail heads are tough and galvanized are even tougher..But the T-2 S.E. will not either ... it will in one tone but 2 tone is just a short sputter.
.Need to get the tone break on the t-2/f-75 like the gold bu
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Keith Southern
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it does not have a meter...Some of the hit's I dig with it would probably read below foil!! that turn out to be great item's....
Keith
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Keith Southern
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yeah you knew that leaf would blow away!!!!
I have had great success with the Musky on deep coin's I dug a large cent one time at a measured 12.25 inches and got a beautiful 1900 Barber half at close to 14 inches..Both in the same
yard...Very loamy soil...
and it's just as deep on button's and bullet's
I have heard that there's a couple of guy's down in N
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Keith Southern
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Yeah Jackpine it's perfect for my 11 year old daughter.....
There is a guy who makes extender's but who want to do that?
funny thing is the front part of the pole froward of the hardgrip is extra long why don't they just flip it around? I thought about doing mine like that...
what worries me more is is the coil wobble falsing like in the video I did could you work water a
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Keith Southern
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Here's a quick video I did of the Minelab Musketeer X.S. to just show the excellent iron rejection and speed of recovery and target separation...
Very fast analog machine using a 8 inch DD coil..
I like to use the deck to demonstrate since I believe most people have deck's or are able to get to one for testing ...
pretty easy standard that people can analyze with from area to
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Keith Southern
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give my take on it for what it's worth...
Iron hunting is very tedious for sure!!!
The machines you mention I also use for iron hunting and they work really well for me...I hardly get no falsing from nail's unless there bent...Dave Johnson really has a good iron I.D. circuit..
But I spend hour's and hours in one spot no bigger than a 15'x15' area picking throug
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Keith Southern
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O.K' the nail issue .............
What I have determined is the smaller nails will high tone if they are laying ----------------I----------------- like this( North/South to your East/West sweep) turn a little either way and they go back to a good iron audio response..Just the smaller ones seem to high tone though longer ones act normal...
Here's how I came about even noticing
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Keith Southern
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the coil is embedded in epoxy...
I actually un-hooked the rod from the coil and wiggled it from the backside in the same rocking motion and it still falsed..
Comparing it to the Edge...that a tough one but I have lot's of hours on an edge and about a dozen on the At..
the Edge is an awesome detector in iron trash...really uncanny ability to pull low conductor's from iron...
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Keith Southern
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to stop it.... It's just the close nail's and smaller one's at that...Must be something to do with it trying to look at small target's?? larger nail's are O.K...
It got great AUDIO!!!!!!
Keith
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Keith Southern
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nothing wrong with the GBSE great fantastic machine....But gotta always be on the lookout for something better....Relic's don't replenish themselves...Ha-Ha!!
I think the AT-Pro is a nice( great ) machine for "GARRETT" I wont say it's a world class unit but there platform hold's promise... It has astounding audio !! great mineral see through..
it's quirky
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Keith Southern
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not for sure if the nail and noise from coil is the same ????
Could be driving the coil pretty dang hot on transmit?
pretty sure the sens control's the receive side of the circuit...
A signal balance would be of help on the machine....
I can't figure out where manufacturer's get Field test done? The coil noise issue was something I caught right after putting it toge
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Keith Southern
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