How to save money on the Deus.

The one non-essential component of the Deus system is the headphone assembly. The distributor sells the parts individually.

It looks like one can save lots of money by purchasing the coil, rod, and control box seperately. throw in the charging clip and charger and you're looking at about $1500.00 . That's close to Etrac territory.

Just an idea.

PM me for other ideas.

Yeah, they sell the Deus for 1500 Euro with headphones or 1200 Euro without headphones here in Europe! That is A LOT of money or headphones and it is because you can control the unit from the headphones without using the control box. But I like having a VID so would never do that.

The bad thing is there is NO VOLUME CONTROL on the control box (as of yet, they can do that in an upgrade). So, if you plug in headphones (smaller 3.5mm size) you need headphones with a volume control! Important point. 300 bucks is a lot to save. And if you try using an adapter to use your current headphones, your hand will be in the way of the adapter when the control box is mounted on the shaft (so, you can put it in your pocket or on your arm - the latter sounds fine as I don't watch the scree when I hunt anyway.

My back is making me look at this machine!

earthmansurfer Wrote:
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> Yeah, they sell the Deus for 1500 Euro with
> headphones or 1200 Euro without headphones here in
> Europe! That is A LOT of money or headphones and
> it is because you can control the unit from the
> headphones without using the control box. But I
> like having a VID so would never do that.

The Deus is not that expensive in Europe, 1110-1305 euros is more like it, you just need to buy it in the right place.

It's not that price in all of Europe. Here in the U.K, it will cost 1250 Pounds = 1980 dollars, 1500 Euro. There is a 'Deus Lite' package available now, without the main control unit, though I can't see it being that popular.

Pimento Wrote:
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> It's not that price in all of Europe. Here in the
> U.K, it will cost 1250 Pounds = 1980 dollars, 1500
> Euro. There is a 'Deus Lite' package available
> now, without the main control unit, though I can't
> see it being that popular.

Then the Deus is way overprices in the Uk, as an example you can get one from the Detectorlabs.com for a 1355 euros.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/17/2012 11:13AM by Etsija82.

Overpriced in the U.K? Too many things are. Including US made goods. F75-LTD's cost 750+ pounds = 1200 dollars here. Same with US brand mountain-bikes. Just change the dollar sign to pounds.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/17/2012 11:25AM by Pimento.

Pimento Wrote:
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> Overpriced in the U.K? Too many things are.
> Including US made goods. F75-LTD's cost 750+
> pounds = 1200 dollars here. Same with US brand
> mountain-bikes. Just change the dollar sign to
> pounds.

Holy...that's why some of the Uk folks have bought their machine elsewhere, you really should not support this kind of thievery.

Here's a UK dealer's XP page, listing the Lite (ie. missing an important part) model. It amuses me that the large coil for the Deus is 350 pounds, 550 dollars!
[regton.com]

There are rumors of a package coming out that will not have the GUI (Control Box) . The unit can be setup with the headphones and it is not needed . then you could add it later.

Tom in SC

Lite package is available without remote for $1120.

Tom in SC

Good info guys...shop around...take a note from the better half as my wife will drag me to 10 stores before she buys..

Some mother companies have their dealers sell at one price and one only and don't know how this outfit works....

For instance one manufacturer quotes a price and take 20 percent off and thats the going price for the unit and the dealer will be let go if he does conform to company regs...

Etsija82 Wrote:
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> earthmansurfer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yeah, they sell the Deus for 1500 Euro with
> > headphones or 1200 Euro without headphones here
> in
> > Europe! That is A LOT of money or headphones
> and
> > it is because you can control the unit from the
> > headphones without using the control box. But I
> > like having a VID so would never do that.
>
> The Deus is not that expensive in Europe,
> 1110-1305 euros is more like it, you just need to
> buy it in the right place.


We can post links here. Would you mind sending me some of the cheaper ones? I'm in Germany. Thx

It looks like this thread has alot of our European friends. I have a question. Detech has come out with a EDS metal detector. Has anyone used it? Does it really have the fantasic depth that the manufacturer claims it has? No Dealers for that machine here in the USA, and there is very little info out there. I see Joan Allen in the UK does sell the machine, but again, very little info.
Any info is appreciated !

Possum - My thoughts exactly. $1500, $1800 better shop around if you want one?

How does it perform ??? What are you getting for that kind of silly money ???

Probably yet another shallow performer that hits a dime in the air at 10" which means
6-7" (max) in the ground. Big Deal ?

This would make it a $600-$700 machine in my book.

Bells and whistles (Advertising Masking) don't get you added depth. So . . .
How many fancy features do you need to hit a 5" dime ???

Nobody should buy one of these until they are honestly evaluated.

This hobby needs to be turned around and stopped from heading backwards by refusing
to buy poor performance (DEPTH).

We are involved in an expensive niche hobby where honest performance standards do not exist
or are not disclosed by any of the manufacturers.

This forum is an exception to that and is one of the few trying to honestly inform the consumer

mcgov51 Wrote:
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>
> Nobody should buy one of these until they are
> honestly evaluated.


Folks have been using the DEUS for two years with very few complaints. Is that not good enough for you?

mcgov51 Wrote:
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> Probably yet another shallow performer that hits a
> dime in the air at 10" which means
> 6-7" (max) in the ground. Big Deal ?
>

Now you are talking out of your behind, because the Deus can hit 13,7 inch in airtest with a clad dime in basic 1 program and this is not the deepest program at all, this is no Ace 250 we are talking about. Where does these armchair detectorist come from, that dont own the machine, but still think they know everything about the Deus and it's depth capabilities??

Go swing your Ace 250, if you want those 5" clad dimes, you so desire.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/17/2012 09:39PM by Etsija82.

Being a European (French) machine, it's not unreasonable to suggest it's designed to tackle European conditions. These can vary from woodland/pasture which are similar to those in the US, through to intensely iron-infested sites, where the fast-recovery is a desirable attribute. While it seems to have credible depth performance, it is not its' 'trump card' or 'unique selling-point'. Versatility and fast (adjustable) response seem to be why people buy it. They seem to be happy with them, too, as they rarely come on the pre-owned market, and fetch 80 - 90% of new price when they do.
If you want to read English-language opinion on the Deus, this is a popular, (and civil !) U.K forum:
[www.metaldetectingforum.co.uk]
[www.metaldetectingforum.co.uk] (Deus threads)



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earthmansurfer Wrote:
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> Etsija82 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > earthmansurfer Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Yeah, they sell the Deus for 1500 Euro with
> > > headphones or 1200 Euro without headphones
> here
> > in
> > > Europe! That is A LOT of money or headphones
> > and
> > > it is because you can control the unit from
> the
> > > headphones without using the control box. But
> I
> > > like having a VID so would never do that.
> >
> > The Deus is not that expensive in Europe,
> > 1110-1305 euros is more like it, you just need
> to
> > buy it in the right place.
>
>
> We can post links here. Would you mind sending me
> some of the cheaper ones? I'm in Germany. Thx

Here is some of cheaper ones:
[www.metallidetektor.ee]
[detectorlabs.com]
Both are good shops, so pick one.

Well . . . I really enjoy a lively discussion and my armchair is on the East Coast
of the U.S.A. just above DC.

13,7 inches in the air you say on a dime?
So what does that mean as far as . . . true ground depth ( <10" right? )
Just what this hobby needs . . .

So at twice the price of existing comparable units what are the advantages again???

$550 for a large coil . . . that sounds reasonable . . . bet it will probably be necessary
to hit that 13,7 dime in the air.

I feel $orry for you UK guy$ . . . you really do have a lot of wonderful deep history
over there and a true need for good equip. Not just more expensive status-quo.

I doubt if I will ever buy one because I demand value for my hard earned money.

Performance needs to be expertly evaluated and documented.

Eventually it will be and it does not sound like it is going to turn out to be anything special.

Armchair Yank

Not many mentions about the extreme light weight of the Deus. To me, being up there in years , the weight will mean very very much. I hunted wed and friday 4-5 hours each day using my E-trac and it sure takes a toll on my old body. Something lightweight and hopefully a very interesting detector will mean a lot. Time will tell and it sure wont be the first or most likely last bad decision I have made. Lets wait see!!!! HH..

mcgov51 Wrote:
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> 13,7 inches in the air you say on a dime?
> So what does that mean as far as . . . true ground
> depth ( <10" right? )
> Just what this hobby needs . . .

> $550 for a large coil . . . that sounds reasonable
> . . . bet it will probably be necessary
> to hit that 13,7 dime in the air.

Yes, a clad dime...13,7 inch with the 9" dd stock coil, Basic 1 factory preset and with the non-motion mode, the dime could be detected even further.



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mcgov51 Wrote:
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> Possum - My thoughts exactly. $1500, $1800 better
> shop around if you want one?
>
> How does it perform ??? What are you getting for
> that kind of silly money ???
>
> Probably yet another shallow performer that hits a
> dime in the air at 10" which means
> 6-7" (max) in the ground. Big Deal ?
>
> This would make it a $600-$700 machine in my
> book.
>
> Bells and whistles (Advertising Masking) don't get
> you added depth. So . . .
> How many fancy features do you need to hit a 5"
> dime ???
>
> Nobody should buy one of these until they are
> honestly evaluated.
>
> This hobby needs to be turned around and stopped
> from heading backwards by refusing
> to buy poor performance (DEPTH).
>
> We are involved in an expensive niche hobby where
> honest performance standards do not exist
> or are not disclosed by any of the manufacturers.
>
>
> This forum is an exception to that and is one of
> the few trying to honestly inform the consumer


most of the people 'engaged' on this forum are long time hunters
with many years of experience! no (b.s.) here! ..just "respected"
dialogue!..just sayin'

(h.h.!)
j.t.

the deus is pricy but who cares when it pays for itself so quickly ,doesnt take long before your in + side balance sheet

So what do we think we know sofar . . .

In all fairness:

Yes . . . it is probably the first baby step of any manufacturer to ursher this hobby into the 21st Century and I
certainly applaud that because it was many, many years overdue. Sure there was some R&D money spent to
develope this 1st attempt but the manufacturer should not expect to recoupe that investment the 1st year.

Yes . . . it is wireless from coil - control box - headphones whereas only my headphones are. . . but I only
paid $40 to do this and I can interhange this wireless capability with any unit I have.

Yes . . . it is light weight . . . great.
Yes . . . it seems to have excellent target separation . . . great.
Yes . . . it seems to have very quick recovery speed . . . great.
Yes . . . For Sure it will cost 3-4X what I paid for my AT Pro and probably deliver <1.4X the depth at best . . . not so great.

For some people these attributes may be enough as they are ?
But not me . . . at least not yet.

Soon there will be honest data to evaluate.

Armchair Yank



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/19/2012 10:57AM by mcgov51.

I hope what Mc is trying to say way to often we impulse buy then wait for the results, when it would be nice to have some info before hand on equipment hitting our market. If the machine has been on the market for 2 years why does it take so long for the detecting community to start talking it up? Is there other machines out there no one talks about that we could get BEFORE they get popular and pricy? In reverse are there machines hitting our market the UK doesnt know about? I doubt it. I rarely buy equipment ive not researched and im more prone to buy second best if the price difference doesnt justify it in some way. Supply and demand doesnt impress me or cause me to jump on the big price band wagon. I think its great that some of the dealers are willing to import these machines and other equpment...... nothing like good competition to lower prices.

Dew

Diggers - You have one?

Put up some honest data. C'mon.

With your cheerful attitude and sunny disposition, I bet you're the life of any party.

lol


mcgov51 Wrote:
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> Well . . . I really enjoy a lively discussion and
> my armchair is on the East Coast
> of the U.S.A. just above DC.
>
> 13,7 inches in the air you say on a dime?
> So what does that mean as far as . . . true ground
> depth ( <10" right? )
> Just what this hobby needs . . .
>
> So at twice the price of existing comparable units
> what are the advantages again???
>
> $550 for a large coil . . . that sounds reasonable
> . . . bet it will probably be necessary
> to hit that 13,7 dime in the air.
>
> I feel $orry for you UK guy$ . . . you really do
> have a lot of wonderful deep history
> over there and a true need for good equip. Not
> just more expensive status-quo.
>
> I doubt if I will ever buy one because I demand
> value for my hard earned money.
>
> Performance needs to be expertly evaluated and
> documented.
>
> Eventually it will be and it does not sound like
> it is going to turn out to be anything special.
>
>
>
> Armchair Yank

In response to Dew:
"If the machine has been on the market for 2 years why does it take so long for the detecting community to start talking it up? "
The Deus and it's predecessor, the GoldMaxPower have been well thought of for several years. The GMP is not a depth demon, but it is a fast-recovery high-frequency relic hunter. Many Deus users here in the UK 'graduate' from the GMP. Several other XP machines are liked, too, particularly the Adventis, though they are all pricey in the UK, limiting their appeal.
"Is there other machines out there no one talks about that we could get BEFORE they get popular and pricy?"
I believe the Deus was always this price, and hasn't increased in price due to popularity.
" In reverse are there machines hitting our market the UK doesnt know about? I doubt it."
Yes, in fact. DetectorPro are unknown, so we don't have the pistol-probe. The Vibra-probe range of pinpointers are also unknown and unavailable here, the only 'good' pinpointer here is the Garrett PinpointerPro. Nautilus are unheard of.

Detectorist Wrote:
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> With your cheerful attitude and sunny disposition,
> I bet you're the life of any party.
>
> lol
>
>
> mcgov51 Wrote:

Detectorist - I really had to LOL at that one. I do enjoy reading mcgov51's posts though, it sort of livens things up. And sincerely no offense meant, but the memories...

mcgov51 Wrote:
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> So what do we think we know sofar . . .
>
> In all fairness:
>
> Yes . . . it is probably the first baby step of
> any manufacturer to ursher this hobby into the
> 21st Century and I
> certainly applaud that because it was many, many
> years overdue. Sure there was some R&D money
> spent to
> develope this 1st attempt but don't expect to
> recoupe that investment the 1st year.
>
> Yes . . . it is wireless from coil - control box
> - headphones whereas only my headphones are. . .
> but I only
> paid $40 to do this and I can interhange this
> wireless capability with any unit I have.
>
> Yes . . . it is light weight . . . great.
> Yes . . . it seems to have excellent target
> separation . . . great.
> Yes . . . it seems to have very quick recovery
> speed . . . great.
> Yes . . . For Sure it will cost 3-4X what I paid
> for my AT Pro and probably deliver 1.6X the depth
> at best . . . not so great.
>
> For some people these attributes may be enough as
> they are ?
> But not me . . . at least not yet.
>
> Soon there will be honest data to evaluate.
>
> Armchair Yank


yes! soon! i await with "breathless anticipation!"
just sayin'

(h.h.!)
j.t.