Short hunt. Deus and Racer 2

Hunted for a short while in a site I visited some 4.5 years ago with etrac and stock coil.
This site hunted btw by others,,I know the owner,,he used to detect.

Broke out the CTX with stock coil,,,,used a couple minutes,,,and due to site conditions,,opted for Deus 9" coil.

First signal a steady 76 one way,,and lower the other direction when sweeping-- tone very nice though.
Out jumps the crusty IH--- btw coin at 3" deep. Air test at 84 in 18khz,which I was using when coin discovered.

Also found a small ring with ornamental design on it with Deus.

Found a few more things,,and then opted for Racer 2 with Racer1 OOR coil.

Found the big button with design,,,this target yielded in 3 tone,,the duck sounding tone--- like mixed conducitivty under the coil.

This hunt mainly just a cursory hunt of the site,,,will hunt some more later on.

Thanks for looking.





Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/12/2016 11:58PM by tnsharpshooter.

When you gettin' that Nauty from your buddy?
See if it can whup that Big Bad Deus!

Some nice finds,i dont own a Racer machine but i do own a Deus,had it a few years but its only in recent months have started using it as my everyday use detector,i guess old habits die hard,my T2 was my favourite for years but times change and the that held the No1 slot has been relegated too a backup machine,just love the versatility of the Deus.

Basically just use the Deus as the everyday detector and the Nexus for deep pasture work,most of my other machines are dust gathers,not used my TDI Pro for months.

I here them Nexus are a beast!

Harold,ILL. Wrote:
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> I here them Nexus are a beast!

You could say that,mine has the dual 9'' coils on which is deep enough for what i am looking for,i wont quote any depth figures,the reason i use one it basically gives me PI depth but with full discrimination,it looks a very intimidating machine but its a pussy cat too operate lol.Also just located a dual 6'' coil for everyday use,they also offer a dual 20'' coil which is basically 36'' x20'' due to the overlap of the coils,must be encroaching on one of the deepest machines but of course target size dictates the depth,alas i dont have a use for such a coil as its main niche is for WW2 artifact hunting.

Harold,ILL. Wrote:
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> When you gettin' that Nauty from your buddy?
> See if it can whup that Big Bad Deus!


We'll see.
No definitely plan time wise yet.

This coming from a " deplorable" metal detectorist.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/13/2016 02:26AM by tnsharpshooter.

Clean the ring up...it may be a silver antique wedding band, floral design of sorts........worth a couple hundred.

Junk and Disorderly Wrote:
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> Harold,ILL. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I here them Nexus are a beast!
>
> You could say that,mine has the dual 9'' coils on
> which is deep enough for what i am looking for,i
> wont quote any depth figures,the reason i use one
> it basically gives me PI depth but with full
> discrimination,it looks a very intimidating
> machine but its a pussy cat too operate lol.Also
> just located a dual 6'' coil for everyday use,they
> also offer a dual 20'' coil which is basicallyudio where deeper tare
> 36'' x20'' due to the overlap of the coils,must be
> encroaching on one of the deepest machines but of
> course target size dictates the depth,alas i dont
> have a use for such a coil as its main niche is
> for WW2 artifact hunting.

Does the Nexus have Modulated audio where deeper targets are softer? Any type of Tone I.D.? Thanks.

Looks like some sort of "state seal" type button Tnss

Is there a back Mark??

They are both great machines

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MichiganRelicHunter Wrote:
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> Looks like some sort of "state seal" type button
> Tnss
>
> Is there a back Mark??


Don't see one.

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tnsharpshooter
Hunted for a short while in a site I visited some 4.5 years ago with etrac and stock coil.
This site hunted btw by others,,I know the owner,,he used to detect.

Broke out the CTX with stock coil,,,,used a couple minutes,,,and due to site conditions,,opted for Deus 9" coil.

Unless a site is a somewhat distant drive, I don't think I'd hold of 4½ years between visits, especially if it has old-target potential.

If very littered, especially with iron debris, I think tucking the CTX 3030 away for a nap was a good idea. Not the right tool in most cases, even with the new 6" DD coil. Am I a Deus fan? Nope, but mainly because I like 'Simple' - 'Functional' - 'Performance', and the Deus starts out, for me, being un-simple or -un-functional' with the multi battery powered and charging requirements. Also too much for most folks to figure out and adjust. Am I saying it doesn't work? No, it can do okay if set up right and I know a couple of guys who use the Deus and are pretty successful with it. It's a matter of site selection and trash density, too.

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tnsharpshooter
First signal a steady 76 one way,,and lower the other direction when sweeping-- tone very nice though.
Out jumps the crusty IH--- btw coin at 3" deep. Air test at 84 in 18khz,which I was using when coin discovered.

I'm glad you posted your comment about recovering an Indian Head 1¢ that only gave a one-way response. Too often I have read book, magazine or Forum comments that suggest all one-way signals are likely junk and can be ignored. How incorrect that statement can be!.

I note you were using the 18 kHz option with the Deus. I ought to ask my friends which frequency they prefer in some of the nastiest trash we hunt in. I just returned from an 11 day trip to hunt six old railroad ghost towns and in many parts of them the iron nails and other ferrous-based trash is quite abundant. In them, since the summer of '83, I have done quite well with the 10 kHz to 15 kHz Tesoro models I have hunted them with. Generally better in iron than almost all other makes and models during this third-of-a-century with a few recent exceptions.

Those exceptions, for me, are the 14 kHz Makro Racer 2. In the dense trash I use the 'OOR' DD coil most of the time and round 5½" at other times. I also put my 15 kHz Nokta FORS CoRe w/'OOR' coil mounted to work in the junk, and this year the FORS Relic w/round 5½" DD has been handling things quite well, and it operates at 19 kHz.

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tnsharpshooter
Found a few more things,,and then opted for Racer 2 with Racer1 OOR coil.

Found the big button with design,,,this target yielded in 3 tone,,the duck sounding tone--- like mixed conducitivty under the coil.

I would guess that 85%-90% of the time I use the Racer 2, CoRe or Relic with their small 'OOR' or 5½" DD coils, the 3-Tone Discriminate mode is chosen. When mainly hunting sites with a lot of rusty tin and other forms of sheet iron or flat iron, I like the "duck sounding tone" you refer to that seems to help audibly classify many targets when using the 3-Tone audio Disc. mode.

The rest of the time, the other 10%-15% of hunting iron challenged sites where it is mainly nails, cut iron wire or other similar ferrous junk, I prefer the 2-Tone search modes using rather one of the smaller coil or a 5½X10 when it is only low to modest amounts of nails or cut-wire type iron. No "duck squawk" type audio then, but a cleaner Low-Tone audio for the ferrous targets.

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tnsharpshooter
This hunt mainly just a cursory hunt of the site,,,will hunt some more later on.

Looking for a report on how that hunt goes. Best of success to you.

Monte

Monte Wrote:
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> Hunted for a short while in a site I visited some
> 4.5 years ago with etrac and stock coil.
> This site hunted btw by others,,I know the
> owner,,he used to detect.
>
> Broke out the CTX with stock coil,,,,used a
> couple minutes,,,and due to site conditions,,opted
> for Deus 9" coil.Unless a site is a somewhat
> distant drive, I don't think I'd hold of 4½ years
> between visits, especially if it has old-target
> potential.
>
> If very littered, especially with iron debris, I
> think tucking the CTX 3030 away for a nap was a
> good idea. Not the right tool in most cases, even
> with the new 6" DD coil. Am I a Deus fan? Nope,
> but mainly because I like 'Simple' - 'Functional'
> - 'Performance', and the Deus starts out, for me,
> being un-simple or -un-functional' with the multi
> battery powered and charging requirements. Also
> too much for most folks to figure out and adjust.
> Am I saying it doesn't work? No, it can do okay
> if set up right and I know a couple of guys who
> use the Deus and are pretty successful with it.
> It's a matter of site selection and trash
> density, too.
>
>
> First signal a steady 76 one way,,and lower the
> other direction when sweeping-- tone very nice
> though.
> Out jumps the crusty IH--- btw coin at 3" deep.
> Air test at 84 in 18khz,which I was using when
> coin discovered. I'm glad you posted your comment
> about recovering an Indian Head 1¢ that only gave
> a one-way response. Too often I have read book,
> magazine or Forum comments that suggest all
> one-way signals are likely junk and can be
> ignored. How incorrect that statement can be!.
>
> I note you were using the 18 kHz option with the
> Deus. I ought to ask my friends which frequency
> they prefer in some of the nastiest trash we hunt
> in. I just returned from an 11 day trip to hunt
> six old railroad ghost towns and in many parts of
> them the iron nails and other ferrous-based trash
> is quite abundant. In them, since the summer of
> '83, I have done quite well with the 10 kHz to 15
> kHz Tesoro models I have hunted them with.
> Generally better in iron than almost all other
> makes and models during this third-of-a-century
> with a few recent exceptions.
>
> Those exceptions, for me, are the 14 kHz Makro
> Racer 2. In the dense trash I use the 'OOR' DD
> coil most of the time and round 5½" at other
> times. I also put my 15 kHz Nokta FORS CoRe
> w/'OOR' coil mounted to work in the junk, and this
> year the FORS Relic w/round 5½" DD has been
> handling things quite well, and it operates at 19
> kHz.
>
>
> Found a few more things,,and then opted for Racer
> 2 with Racer1 OOR coil.
>
> Found the big button with design,,,this target
> yielded in 3 tone,,the duck sounding tone--- like
> mixed conducitivty under the coil.I would guess
> that 85%-90% of the time I use the Racer 2, CoRe
> or Relic with their small 'OOR' or 5½" DD coils,
> the 3-Tone Discriminate mode is chosen. When
> mainly hunting sites with a lot of rusty tin and
> other forms of sheet iron or flat iron, I like the
> "duck sounding tone" you refer to that seems to
> help audibly classify many targets when using the
> 3-Tone audio Disc. mode.
>
> The rest of the time, the other 10%-15% of hunting
> iron challenged sites where it is mainly nails,
> cut iron wire or other similar ferrous junk, I
> prefer the 2-Tone search modes using rather one of
> the smaller coil or a 5½X10 when it is only low
> to modest amounts of nails or cut-wire type iron.
> No "duck squawk" type audio then, but a cleaner
> Low-Tone audio for the ferrous targets.
>
>
> This hunt mainly just a cursory hunt of the
> site,,,will hunt some more later on.Looking for a
> report on how that hunt goes. Best of success to
> you.
>
> Monte

I didn't hunt the site for 4.5 years,,because I hadn't gotten permission since the first time when the gent did give me a go at the site years ago,,,plus the only detector I had was the etrac and V3i with stock coils---- plus my experience was rather lacking when it came to detecting.

Definitely know much more now vs then.

As far as Deus goes,,,and I do have Racer 2,,Nokta Relic and others.

Deus IMO is still coil size for coil size the supreme performer in iron,,,,I say this based solely on my personal experiences.

It is not complicated.

It is not cheap either,,,,vs some other nice performers like Relic and Racer.

And I sure don't plan on getting rid of any,,,Deus,,Racer 2, or Nokta Relic.

CTX IMO personal,opinion is very overrated for price.

I think folks get mistaken somewhat about its performance,,,what do I mean???

While it is true it generally does provided superior TID even at depth (especially for coin hunters).,, one must remember they first have to be able to detect a target for this great ID system to perform.

I think it is also worth pointing out,,,amount of ground covered say by Deus vs CTX,,,advantage Deus.

Will I be getting rid of my CTX,,,likely not.

Realizing a detectors weakness and applying this to a site for possible better detector selection and or coil- paramount for better success.

We should all want to see any and all manufacturers make better performing detectors.
Why???

Because these better performers could indeed be springboards for even better detectors.

Plus it keeps the detecting maker industry honest,,,and hopefully better on top of their game.