9 inch concentric Anfibio coil...

Testing my new 9 inch coil on the Anfibio...9 inch coil.

Nice test--thanks for effort.

Thanks for the video, I might have to get one of those for my Multi Kruzer

EDIT: Where to get one?? Looking at the Nokta dealer page and am totally striking out from "we only carry one machine to nothing" ..... sigh.

Dilek can you tell me where the 9" Anfibio concentric coils where shipped to in the U.S.? I'd love to get one from anyone, except Kelly Co.



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Ole' Cal is gettin' exicted! The 9" concentric would probably be The preferred coin hunting coil



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Harold,ILL. Wrote:
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> Ole' Cal is gettin' exicted! The 9" concentric would probably be The preferred coin hunting coil

I'm thinking it might be pretty good in sea of nails and other iron laden spots on the Multi Kruzer. The last time I used a concentric was on my F75.

Cal_cobra Wrote:
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> Thanks for the video, I might have to get one of t
> hose for my Multi Kruzer
>
> EDIT: Where to get one?? Looking at the Nokta de
> aler page and am totally striking out from "we onl
> y carry one machine to nothing" ..... sigh.
>
> Dilek can you tell me where the 9" Anfibio concent
> ric coils where shipped to in the U.S.? I'd love
> to get one from anyone, except Kelly Co.


Craig Nichols may can help.

tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> Cal_cobra Wrote:
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> > Thanks for the video, I might have to get one of
> t
> > hose for my Multi Kruzer
> >
> > EDIT: Where to get one?? Looking at the Nokta
> de
> > aler page and am totally striking out from "we o
> nl
> > y carry one machine to nothing" ..... sigh.
> >
> > Dilek can you tell me where the 9" Anfibio conce
> nt
> > ric coils where shipped to in the U.S.? I'd lov
> e
> > to get one from anyone, except Kelly Co.
>
>
> Craig Nichols may can help.

Yes---and Craig is a great guy to deal with.

Craig is top notch

D&P-OR Wrote:
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> tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> > Cal_cobra Wrote:
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> > -----
> > > Thanks for the video, I might have to get one
> of
> > t
> > > hose for my Multi Kruzer
> > >
> > > EDIT: Where to get one?? Looking at the Nokt
> a
> > de
> > > aler page and am totally striking out from "we
> o
> > nl
> > > y carry one machine to nothing" ..... sigh.
> > >
> > > Dilek can you tell me where the 9" Anfibio con
> ce
> > nt
> > > ric coils where shipped to in the U.S.? I'd l
> ov
> > e
> > > to get one from anyone, except Kelly Co.
> >
> >
> > Craig Nichols may can help.
>
> Yes---and Craig is a great guy to deal with.


He sure is.
I don’t recommend bummers to folks.
Bought 2 coils for my Anfibio from him and the other off off ole Calabash (7”concentric).

Craig always has the best deals.

Other than the rod, what are the main differences between the Anfibio and Multi-Kruzer?

tabman

Thanks, I sent him a PM. Checking if he can get an EQ800 15" coil too

Thanks for the video, interesting. I believe my NOX would perform just as well.

Up to my ____ in Pulltabs, Grant

Up to my ____ in Pulltabs, Grant Wrote:
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> Thanks for the video, interesting. I believe my NO
> X would perform just as well.


As big a believer as I am with Equinox.
This Anfibio equipped with the 9”concentric and the 7” concentric.
In carpet of nails scenarios advantage Anfibio.

Not to say Equinox can’t perform.

But in this scenario my money is on Anfibio with the concentrics.

I do have 7”concentric for my Anfibio,
What will happen is user of Anfibio odds wises stands a better chance of detecting nonferrous ( from a higher angle of attack when sweeping).
Maybe your mileage may vary.

But this is my story and I am sticking with it.



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so far the Multi seems like a machine i might like especially with concentric coil but the weight bothers me. 3.7 pounds. The Impact is 4 pounds and I liked it a lot but got rid of it because of the weight. and i don't want to hear that it's well balanced. I bought that BS and bought the CTX3030 and even if it is wll balanced it's still HEAVY. lol

Up to my ____ in Pulltabs, Grant Wrote:
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> Thanks for the video, interesting. I believe my NOX would perform just as well.

With what the 11" DD?

TNSS I believe the MMK is definitely superior to the EQ in iron from my experience, like sea of nails and heavier, not doubt about it.

As far as a concentric on the MMK (or Anfibio for that matter), since you've tested both the 7" & 9" concentrics, can you offer any opinions between the two?

I feel the 7" is a bit on the small side (kind of like using the OOR, killer coil if you have the time), and I'm sure additional depth would be had with the 9", as well as coverage.

How are the Anfibio/MMK contrics at handling flat rusty tin?

How about larger iron that gets ID'd as a higher conductor with DD coils on the MMK (Racer/Impact/F75/Equinox/or whatever) ?

Amazingly the stock 11" DD coil does pretty dang well on the MMK in sea of nails, but flat rusty tin, flat iron, and other oddball iron still gets it sometimes (as well as anything else with a DD). Haven't ran a concentric at the sites I'm thinking would benefit from the Anfibio 9" concentric (or possibly the 7"), but would be curious to see how they perform.

TIA,
Cal

Cal_cobra Wrote:
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> TNSS I believe the MMK is definitely superior to t
> he EQ in iron from my experience, like sea of nail
> s and heavier, not doubt about it.
>
> As far as a concentric on the MMK (or Anfibio for
> that matter), since you've tested both the 7" & 9"
> concentrics, can you offer any opinions between th
> e two?
>
> I feel the 7" is a bit on the small side (kind of
> like using the OOR, killer coil if you have the ti
> me), and I'm sure additional depth would be had wi
> th the 9", as well as coverage.
>
> How are the Anfibio/MMK contrics at handling flat
> rusty tin?
>
> How about larger iron that gets ID'd as a higher c
> onductor with DD coils on the MMK (Racer/Impact/F7
> 5/Equinox/or whatever) ?
>
> Amazingly the stock 11" DD coil does pretty dang w
> ell on the MMK in sea of nails, but flat rusty tin
> , flat iron, and other oddball iron still gets it
> sometimes (as well as anything else with a DD). H
> aven't ran a concentric at the sites I'm thinking
> would benefit from the Anfibio 9" concentric (or p
> ossibly the 7"), but would be curious to see how t
> hey perform.
>
> TIA,
> Cal

I only have 7” concentric,
I may do a video late tomorrow or Thursday.
I have a site with tin, nails, etc. dates back to early 1800s.
Will run EQX too with 6” coil.
Try to sweep in same/similar areas.
And over tin (folks can see) and see how both report.

Hard to put into words really.
Does seem disc level 3 provides some very good performance separating.

I know you are wanting to bust your ghost town sites. And want to know which one will serve you best.



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tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> I only have 7” concentric, I may do a video late tomorrow or Thursday.
> I have a site with tin, nails, etc. dates back to early 1800s.
> Will run EQX too with 6” coil.
> Try to sweep in same/similar areas.
> And over tin (folks can see) and see how both report.
>
> Hard to put into words really.
> Does seem disc level 3 provides some very good performance separating.
>
> I know you are wanting to bust your ghost town sites. And want to know which one will serve you best.

If you get a chance, I'd appreciate it.

I pretty much proved to myself last weekend hunting an old iron ridden site that the EQ has limits in heavy iron that the MMK can handle much better, but if the MMK can be improved even more with the concentric coil, that would be amazing.

Cal_cobra Wrote:
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> tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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>
> >
> > I only have 7” concentric, I may do a video late
> tomorrow or Thursday.
> > I have a site with tin, nails, etc. dates back t
> o early 1800s.
> > Will run EQX too with 6” coil.
> > Try to sweep in same/similar areas.
> > And over tin (folks can see) and see how both re
> port.
> >
> > Hard to put into words really.
> > Does seem disc level 3 provides some very good p
> erformance separating.
> >
> > I know you are wanting to bust your ghost town s
> ites. And want to know which one will serve you b
> est.
>
> If you get a chance, I'd appreciate it.
>
> I pretty much proved to myself last weekend huntin
> g an old iron ridden site that the EQ has limits i
> n heavy iron that the MMK can handle much better,
> but if the MMK can be improved even more with the
> concentric coil, that would be amazing.


Don’t know what your experience levels are with concentric coils.
Myself, sorta limited.
But did do some intense hunting when I used Rutus Alter 71 in two of my detector proving grounds sites after load of DD Coil Use with Deus, core unit, Racer, Nokta relic unit smaller DD coils.
My take.
Concentrics will find things faster in a nail ridden site usually. But more multiple hunts using doesn’t seem to produce like more multiple hunts with dd coils.
Concentrics seems are an easy go no go for detection.
Whereas dd coils are more of a “if you get lucky” and approach from the right angle and know what to listen for you’ll still find things.

So I wouldn’t spend a lot of time in a site walking around in circles with a concentric coil. Rather do this with smaller dd coil.

Maybe I don’t Know what I am talking about.
But this was my thought after hunting a site or 2 where I had hard busted with dd coils for 6 plus years.

Strangely enough, both sites yielded 4 nonferrous finds and I found them Quickly. Actually when I found say the first 2 nonferous Inwas thinking, oh boy this is a good sign. But the air went out of my ballon.

Now, how many of the finds could I have found using concentric, if Imwould have hunted the 2sites initially using concentric coil ???
Can’t say.

Elevated nails above nonferrrous concentric coils suffer vs dd coils.



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You could be right TNSS. I used concentrics on my old CZs, and C$, but they didn't have DDs so nothing to compare. I had the 10" elliptical concentric on my F75, but mainly used the 11" DD, so my concentric experience with a machine that can also use a DD is limited, definitely no A/B comparisons.

Tesoros can take both, wonder if any of the Tesoro users have done any A/B comparisons?

Concentric coils in heavy nail area I label as a minesweeper. Sweep through overlap some and a person is done. Then go to DD and rockmand roll.
Gridding not too important using concentrics. Get the easy good stuff before .Tom Ca gets it with his dinosaur. Lol



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tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> Concentric coils in heavy nail area I label as a minesweeper. Sweep through overlap some and a person is done. Then go to DD and rockmand roll.
> Gridding not too important using concentrics. Get the easy good stuff before Tom Ca gets it with his dinosaur. Lol

He has two dinosaurs, he has a Silver Sabre too Actually his Silver Sabre does pretty good in heavy iron, just doesn't go very deep.

Cal_cobra Wrote:
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> tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> > Concentric coils in heavy nail area I label as a
> minesweeper. Sweep through overlap some and a per
> son is done. Then go to DD and rockmand roll.
> > Gridding not too important using concentrics. G
> et the easy good stuff before Tom Ca gets it with
> his dinosaur. Lol
>
> He has two dinosaurs, he has a Silver Sabre too
> Actually his Silver Sabre does pretty good in heav
> y iron, just doesn't go very deep.


Just having some fun here. I have one of those dinosaurs. It works. XS Explorer. Wish it was lighter. Backlight works too.



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Cal, I have been using small concentrics on Tesoros to include the 8in and 5.75in on my Tesoros for years in ghost towns and the such from California, Nevada, Colorado. They handle the flat tin like ration can lids and small cut nails a lot better than the same size DD coils on the same machines.
I got the 7in concentric for the MMK for that same reason and it pretty much replaced my Tesoros for hunting in them conditions. Phenomenal coil for getting around sage brush, deep and sensitive. Must have coil for old homesteads, rail road camps, ghost towns etc. I am thinking of one of those 9in concentrics also.

martygene Wrote:
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> so far the Multi seems like a machine i might like
> especially with concentric coil but the weight bot
> hers me. 3.7 pounds. The Impact is 4 pounds and I
> liked it a lot but got rid of it because of the we
> ight. and i don't want to hear that it's well bala
> nced. I bought that BS and bought the CTX3030 and
> even if it is wll balanced it's still HEAVY. lol


That's heavy indeed, it doesn't look like it. Thanks for bringing it up! I wonder what part is responsible for such weight. The battery sits in a relatively small housing? Apart from that, the heaviest part is probably the display. Is it the rod, or the coil, or is every part (equal) "too heavy"?

Could someone measure the weight of the 11" coil (with cable), the housing and the rod separately and post the result? I'm just curious what makes this detector that heavy.

Apparently, the design engineers of a lot of metal detector companies don't actually use the detectors that they designed or they'd be more concern with ergonomics. It's like buying a car that gets great gas mileage or one that's super fast, but it's not comfortable or fun to drive. To Hell with them, detecting is supposed to be about having fun.

tabman

Cal_cobra Wrote:
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> Up to my ____ in Pulltabs, Grant Wrote:
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> > Thanks for the video, interesting. I believe my
> NOX would perform just as well.
>
> With what the 11" DD?




Well damn....

The Nox in both P1 and F1 with the 11" DD will find a Merc Dime, Clad Dime and Copper Penny when a rusty nail is vertical to the sweep but not horizontal. In other words it won't find it when you sweep as Calabash calls it " Down the Barrel "
I'm a little surprised because I've found clad in small piles of rusty roofing nails which were orientated randomly, with some being over top of the target and other similar scenarios where I was surprised by a handful of crown caps and carpet tacks but managed to find good targets.

Up to my ____ in Pulltabs, Grant

Welgund Wrote:
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> Cal, I have been using small concentrics on Tesoros to include the 8in and 5.75in on my Tesoros for years in ghost towns and the such from California, Nevada, Colorado. They handle the flat tin like ration can lids and small cut nails a lot better than the same size DD coils on the same machines.
> I got the 7in concentric for the MMK for that same reason and it pretty much replaced my Tesoros for hunting in them conditions. Phenomenal coil for getting around sage brush, deep and sensitive. Must have coil for old homesteads, rail road camps, ghost towns etc. I am thinking of one of those 9in concentrics also.

Thanks, appreciate the feedback.

Oh those ration can lids, they sound so good with a DD coil. I know Montee and several others have said the 7" concentric was great on the Makro detectors, wondering if I should get the 7" or the 9" ?

x2000 Wrote:
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> martygene Wrote:
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> > so far the Multi seems like a machine i might li
> ke
> > especially with concentric coil but the weight b
> ot
> > hers me. 3.7 pounds. The Impact is 4 pounds and
> I
> > liked it a lot but got rid of it because of the
> we
> > ight. and i don't want to hear that it's well ba
> la
> > nced. I bought that BS and bought the CTX3030 an
> d
> > even if it is wll balanced it's still HEAVY. lo
> l
>
>
> That's heavy indeed, it doesn't look like it. Than
> ks for bringing it up! I wonder what part is respo
> nsible for such weight. The battery sits in a rela
> tively small housing? Apart from that, the heavies
> t part is probably the display. Is it the rod, or
> the coil, or is every part (equal) "too heavy"?
>
> Could someone measure the weight of the 11" coil (
> with cable), the housing and the rod separately an
> d post the result? I'm just curious what makes thi
> s detector that heavy.

I dumped my Impact after getting the MMK because for me the ergonomics were a hot mess, and it was heavy too. The MMK is light as can be, and sans some search modes I never used, a better detector then the Impact to boot. So if they were able to shed a pound going from the Impact to the MMK, I wonder why the Anfibio gained it back? Maybe that vibration mechanism has some good weight to it, and they could dump it? I'd be willing to bet 99% of us will never use it.