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Picked up a New F19
December 24, 2014 08:20PM
to test against the FA mode on the F75...

It Ieaves me wondering which is the best in iron...I think maybe the F19 might have an edge with the tone break plus 5khz higher....But the F75 in 1n is no slouch, but cant hear the iron toen since its muted...

the audio gate needs to stay open I have found for the best unmasking to occur on these digital units...


I have the BiAxial ,,5x10 and 5 DD for it and I have the same for the F75 so it should be fun...

Im hearing good things about the F19...The one I used on initial release suffered from problems....Like 7 inch on a nickle airtest with 5x10....

can anyone tell me what the newer ones airtest a nickle at with 5x10...

Hope this one is updated...I bought it new but you never Know...

what really worries me is how good is it next to the DEUS..Nothing is written in stone!


Keith



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/24/2014 08:30PM by Keith Southern.
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 24, 2014 08:27PM
I am REALLY interested in hearing how this goes Keith. If I did not want camo I would have the F19 by now - came real close to pulling the trigger, then decided to wait for the new G2. Would be even better to hear that the F75 removes the need to even try.

Do me a big favor please and try your F75 out on a Bic pen and the F19 because my F75 refuses to give a non-ferrous beep on my pen test. Notka is killing it there, but my F75 is not upgraded either. [www.detectorprospector.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/24/2014 08:28PM by Steve Herschbach.
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 24, 2014 08:37PM
Will do Steve!

Im picking the F19 up Sunday...So Ill do both then...

Yes Im not a fan of the Camo...But I got the unit at such a price I said what the heck...Not sure what happened to the gold ones.. I saw a guy on you tube in vegas using one but that was it...I would rather have a gold one....Actually I would rather have a solid black...

I to am hoping good things for the G2...Im hearing its suposed to be Hotter..

I truly feel if I could have a G2 with ability to have some sort of BP mode on it or Power Boost when needed I would have a unit I could really take a liking to ...
What would be not to like simple effective light accurate deep ....all in one unit....

I'll do the testing Steve!
Give me a few days..

Keith
wjs
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 24, 2014 08:50PM
I can get a faint repeatable signal at 11" with the stock coil. That was inside the house.
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 24, 2014 09:02PM
Bill was that with a truck rim? winking smiley kidding lol dime?
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 24, 2014 09:40PM
If you are picking up the tip of a pen at 11" you need to take the watch off.
wjs
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 24, 2014 10:51PM
"can anyone tell me what the newer ones airtest a nickle at with 5x10"


You guys are funny. I was answering Keith's request to see how a nickel would air test with the stock coil.
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 24, 2014 11:15PM
That is funny! Classic crossed wires, sorry about that wjs. That's too bad though, I was hoping to buy that detector from you!!
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 24, 2014 11:15PM
There will be no BP on the new G2...buddy of mine emailed First Texas asking about the new G2... their reply is that it is just going to get the same features as the F19....as FT has stated before..BP is not doable on the G2 platform....also they said expect the new G2 unveiled in 2-6 months. PM me if you want to kn ow the individual at FT who stated this, as I will not post his name on the forum
wjs
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 24, 2014 11:23PM
My post was kind of vague now that I read it again. Hey but I knew what I meant......Lol
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 24, 2014 11:24PM
I'm sure it will do something to make it a better detector if it works?

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/25/2014 02:33AM by Lawrenzo.
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 24, 2014 11:39PM
Just endure the camou and the red backlight, it's wicked cool!

The detector isn't bad either :-)

The guys with the XP's are giving my 7.0 release F75 Ltd some hard earned respect.
We need to get a day out detecting with the F19 thrown into the mix, I've got this weird feeling it will stand it's ground.

HH
Johnb
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 24, 2014 11:42PM
sekypaleo Wrote:
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> There will be no BP on the new G2...buddy of mine
> emailed First Texas asking about the new G2...
> their reply is that it is just going to get the
> same features as the F19....as FT has stated
> before..BP is not doable on the G2
> platform....also they said expect the new G2
> unveiled in 2-6 months. PM me if you want to kn ow
> the individual at FT who stated this, as I will
> not post his name on the forum


So Bill---the new G2 is going to be just like the F-19 (except for the shaft handle grip configuration)?-----Like the configuration on the G2/GB Pro?---------Del
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 25, 2014 12:51AM
Heh Del, according to FT yes
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 25, 2014 12:57AM
Steve Herschbach Wrote:
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> I am REALLY interested in hearing how this goes
> Keith. If I did not want camo I would have the F19
> by now - came real close to pulling the trigger,
> then decided to wait for the new G2. Would be even
> better to hear that the F75 removes the need to
> even try.
>
> Do me a big favor please and try your F75 out on a
> Bic pen and the F19 because my F75 refuses to give
> a non-ferrous beep on my pen test. Notka is
> killing it there, but my F75 is not upgraded
> either.
> [www.detectorprospector.com]-
> fisher-f75se-vs-minelab-ctx-3030-vs-nokta-fors-gol
> d-vs-whites-v3i/


"new" g2?..have not heard!..care to expand on this?..thanks!

(h.h.!)
j.t.
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 25, 2014 01:10AM
scoopjohnb Wrote:
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> Just endure the camou and the red backlight, it's
> wicked cool!
>
> The detector isn't bad either :-)
>
> The guys with the XP's are giving my 7.0 release
> F75 Ltd some hard earned respect.
> We need to get a day out detecting with the F19
> thrown into the mix, I've got this weird feeling
> it will stand it's ground.

I have to agree with all of the above John!

Can't wait to see what she'll do up against the fisher flagship (and any others Keith wants to pit her against)!
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 25, 2014 01:18AM
j.t. It is actually old news now. Teknetics announced an upcoming upgrade of the G2 back in March on their Facebook page. I assumed it would just be a F19 in Teknetics clothing and have no reason still to think otherwise. Like everything First Texas however after the March announcement - nothing. Now 2 - 6 more months? I am sure I will be well on to something else by then.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/25/2014 08:07PM by Steve Herschbach.
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 25, 2014 02:31AM
Keith Southern Wrote:
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> Will do Steve!
>
> Im picking the F19 up Sunday...So Ill do both
> then...
>
> Yes Im not a fan of the Camo...But I got the unit
> at such a price I said what the heck...Not sure
> what happened to the gold ones.. I saw a guy on
> you tube in vegas using one but that was it...I
> would rather have a gold one....Actually I would
> rather have a solid black...
>
> I to am hoping good things for the G2...Im hearing
> its suposed to be Hotter..
>
> I truly feel if I could have a G2 with ability to
> have some sort of BP mode on it or Power Boost
> when needed I would have a unit I could really
> take a liking to ...
> What would be not to like simple effective light
> accurate deep ....all in one unit....
>
> I'll do the testing Steve!
> Give me a few days..
>
> Keith


hi keith!
wasn't aware fisher was getting ready to introduce a new g2!
can you share what you know about it at this juncture?
kinda curious!

(h.h.!)
j.t.
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 25, 2014 02:42AM
Steve Herschbach Wrote:
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> j.t. It is actually old news now. Teknetics
> announced an upcoming upgrade of the G2 back in
> March on their Facebook page. I assumed it would
> just be a F19 in Teknetics clothing and have
> reason still to think otherwise. Like everything
> First Texas however after the March announcement -
> nothing. Now 2 - 6 more months? I am sure I will
> be well on to something else by then.


thanks steve! i guess i am similar to the "last man on the deal team,and the last one to know!"
ehe he! he!!..well anyway, i always liked the "tone break" on the g2,but you can run 2 tone in other competing
detectors,and accomplish similar results. maybe the new one has improved "punch" into the ground,and some other
'tricks" i ain't..goin' no where for 3 months,or so, so i'll wait for news!

(h.h.!)
j.t.
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 25, 2014 03:04PM
Keith Southern Wrote:
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> to test against the FA mode on the F75...
>
> It Ieaves me wondering which is the best in
> iron...I think maybe the F19 might have an edge
> with the tone break plus 5khz higher....But the
> F75 in 1n is no slouch, but cant hear the iron
> toen since its muted...
>
> the audio gate needs to stay open I have found for
> the best unmasking to occur on these digital
> units...
>
>
> I have the BiAxial ,,5x10 and 5 DD for it and I
> have the same for the F75 so it should be fun...
>
> Im hearing good things about the F19...The one I
> used on initial release suffered from
> problems....Like 7 inch on a nickle airtest with
> 5x10....
>
> can anyone tell me what the newer ones airtest a
> nickle at with 5x10...
>
> Hope this one is updated...I bought it new but you
> never Know...
>
> what really worries me is how good is it next to
> the DEUS..Nothing is written in stone!
>
>
> Keith

I would be very interested in your comparisons against the F75 V2 and especially against Deus. I'm wondering what kind of depth it gets in highly mineralized soil with the different coils.

El
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 25, 2014 04:26PM
I'm getting 12" on nickel with ID in house.
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 25, 2014 05:01PM
artdegiovanni Wrote:
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> I'm getting 12" on nickel with ID in house.


What are you guys getting on an air test with a clad dime? (F-19)
wjs
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 25, 2014 05:15PM
>>>>What are you guys getting on an air test with a clad dime? (F-19)<<<<<<

8 1/2 inches in discrimination
10 inches in all metal

That is for a repeatable signal.
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 25, 2014 05:42PM
wjs Wrote:
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> >>>>What are you guys getting on an air test with
> a clad dime? (F-19)<<<<<<
>
> 8 1/2 inches in discrimination
> 10 inches in all metal
>
> That is for a repeatable signal.


Thanks Bill
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 25, 2014 06:31PM
Thats really good.. So now F19 or Deus. I hate decisions like this...
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 25, 2014 07:20PM
9" on dime in disc with I'd. All metal id not as deap as disc id
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 25, 2014 07:39PM
Hmmmm

I had a nice camo F19 on my watch list on eBay that NorthGeorgiaRelics had up for auction at a good starting price in like new condition from a trade in and that I was thinking about snatching up

Now Keith has a new camo F19 on its way

But

NGR ended the auction early/item is no longer for sale!?

Keith - you know anything about this!?

Did I wait too long and now It's on its way to you!?
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 25, 2014 09:37PM
I reinstalled the 5x10DD coil (Teknetics) onto my G2 and then set up for an air test. I only did this to perhaps add a comparative perspective.
With this arrangement, my G2 will hit a nickel with repeatable signal at 12 inches.
Just a tad over 9 inches with a dime (clad).
(I was bored and wanted to see if I would gain anything by getting an F-19).
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 25, 2014 10:20PM
Kevin B Wrote:
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> (I was bored and wanted to see if I would gain
> anything by getting an F-19).

Mike Hillis reviewed the F19 (and was a tester for it). He states:

"The Fisher design engineers took the Gold Bug Pro, with its 19 kHz operating frequency, already a success story in gold prospecting circles, and updated the Discrimination Mode with features more suited to relic hunting.  Yes, you heard me right.  The Fisher F19Ltd is a Gold Bug Pro with enhanced Discrimination features."

from this statement I would say there would be no depth improvements to be gained, just some new features....
Re: Picked up a New F19
December 26, 2014 12:02AM
canslawhero Wrote:
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>
> "The Fisher design engineers took the Gold Bug
> Pro, with its 19 kHz operating frequency, already
> a success story in gold prospecting circles, and
> updated the Discrimination Mode with features more
> suited to relic hunting.  Yes, you heard me
> right.  The Fisher F19Ltd is a Gold Bug Pro with
> enhanced Discrimination features."
>
> from this statement I would say there would be no
> depth improvements to be gained, just some new
> features....


Exactly

everything is exactly the same except the backlight was added, the notching feature, and the adjustable Iron audio/volume

other than that - it's the exact same machine except painted camo, stock with 5x10" coil and I believe a slight difference in freq

19.2KHz VS goldbug at 19KHz