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ACQ
Does it make any sense? -- long sad smiley
September 17, 2010 06:06PM
Folks, I've found this surfing around and I was wondering if is there any technical base behind just to try it out.

Thanks
Antonio

Teknetics T2 EMI SETUP
On the T2, the iron discriminatory range is 10-40. So a setting of 10 on the T2 is the same as a zero discriminatory setting we are familiar with on all other machines. This is the first zero discrimination level.
Unique to the T2 is the ability to go below iron into the mineral range, which is the 0-9 discriminatory settings. This can be technically considered to be a sub-zero disc range that is totally wide open and very susceptible to outside electrical effects as well as the internal noise of the T2 circuitry itself. This is the second zero discriminatory range. A discrimination setting of 0 on the T2 opens the T2 to receive any and all signals, including it's own circuitry noise. Once you understand this it becomes much easier to set up a stable T2 as regards to electrical interference.
DISC MODE: With the coil held flat and unmoving on the ground, I select my primary tone id/target processing mode, then turn my sensitivity and discrimination settings both to zero.
I begin raising my sens setting until I start to just hear noise. I find that in my areas that it doesn't take much, usually somewhere around a sens setting of 15-25 before I start picking up electrical interference noise. I adjust my sens setting down a number or two so that the noise is barely coming through and at this point I run through the frequency selections to find the one that works best. I have found that doing the freq check at this level ensures that I am choosing the best one because I'm not overpowering the circuit, which in turn, lets me really hear which one works the best. If you can't tell as you cycle through them, then your sens level it too high and you need to back it down another number.
Once I've selected the quietest frequency, then I raise my discrimination setting to 10 (full iron acceptance or zero discrimination). Now I raise my sensitivity settings until I hear noise again and then back off a number or two until its quiet. I have now set my machine stable as far as electrical interference is concerned.
This easily lets me raise my sensitivity up into the high 70s, low 80's with no noise from electrical interference. Now, if the ground will let me, I can raise my disc up to around 25 and increase my sensitivity into the 90s and still remain stable. Thats IF the ground will let me.The T2 is so sensitive to small and tiny targets (it is a gold machine after all) that the 'small signal' ground responses may force you to lower your sensitivity lower than required by electrical interference.
ALL METAL MODE: Start with sens and hum level both at 0. Then raise the sens until you hear noise. Once you hear noise, raise your hum level until it runs steady and covers the noise. Then raise your sens level again until you hear noise. Then again raise your hum level until it 'hums' steady. I do this until I reach a hum level that I choose not to go beyond. For me, I typically stop when I reach a hum level of +3, which so far allow me to achieve higher sensitivity levels as regards to electrical interference. Then the ground always has the final say as to if I can keep it that high or not.
Remember. Electrical interference is adjusted to with a motionless coil. Ground interference is checked with coil in motion. If your detector is quiet when it is held still, you are not hearing electrical interference.
Hey, I recognize that post! Thats me!
September 17, 2010 08:13PM
That goes back a couple of years The T2 had recently been released to the public and many were struggling with it and how noisy it was. I made this post in regards to how best cancel any EMI that might be encountered. There was a lot going on at that time. EMI, search coil issues, and just the fact the machine had a super fast response speed and high gain. Biggest complaint at the time was that folks couldn't tell EMI from ground noise. This post helped.

Thanks for digging it out and sending it back around.

HH
Mike
ACQ
Re: Does it make any sense? -- long sad smiley
September 17, 2010 08:51PM
Thank you Mike for helping out the newbies like myself. I'll give it a try since I get a lot of noise where I hunt. I suspect of my cell phone but will try your method.

Take care.
Antonio
Re: Does it make any sense? -- long sad smiley
September 19, 2010 12:25PM
Very interesting, sounds kinda like the LTD in some areas. Very quiet while the coil is in the air, but sound terrible while the coil is sweeping over the ground. Maybe I should change that last sentence to, hearing all the small metal particles that are in the ground.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/19/2010 12:27PM by markg.
Re: Does it make any sense? -- long sad smiley
September 20, 2010 12:07PM
Very quiet while the coil is in the air, but sound terrible while the coil is sweeping over the ground.[Markg wrote] My ltd is just the opposite, I can run it some what quiet while sweeping the ground but when I set it down to dig,it starts to drive me nuts with all the noise its making lying on the ground??

F4
F75LTD
I can dig it!!!!
Re: Does it make any sense? -- long sad smiley
September 23, 2010 01:18AM
Thanks Mike and Antonio... I am printing it out now to try in the field.

Julien