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I did a head to head test early this season. Detectors used was CZ-21, Excal 1000, ETrac and a AT Pro. The sand quality was a marble looking with the black and tan sand. Using one target "small channel set diamond ring". Burried the ring with a string that was marked every inch. Settings for each machine was normal beach settings. Nothing elaborate. Goal here was to see what machine wou
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I'm always on +3
One secret is how were able to get an acepted target to come though a null "rejected target". Something other explorer machines have a hard time doing. Throwing masking and silent masking out the window to a degree.
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If i could have what the Etrac does in a T2/F75 package and make it weather proof i would be a happy camper.
And please no more bottle cap dance. Just take crown caps off the target line.
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kasparov747 Wrote:
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> I would assume most of you dont use the Mark 1
> anymore. But I can say for sure that the analog
> target id of the Mark 1 will give the user a world
> of information from just a slight movement of the
> needle. Differentiating between clad and silver is
> no problem with the Mark 1 meter and tel
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It's not so much the depth or what ground. It's all about the target ID. Fisher will need to have a machine that : Can tell w IH penny from a zinc. Tell a clad dime from a silver dime from a memorial/wheat penny and so on. The fact that you can pass up a wheat penny or memorial and dig only silver is huge. More silver and less digging. The target structure of the fisher machines are too
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Thank you Tom for explaining it. In research reading. I have seen it mentioned that a duel freq detector handles black sand better than a muti freq. Andy Sabach, Clive James cylink as well as yourself. I wonder how many people select a brand based on the conditions they hunt ? Or selecting based on a guess? It's very interesting how these two machines perform differently than each other.
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Site dependent i know . To manny factors i get it. Yet why is one machine more unstable "Excal" than the other "CZ-21" ??? Bay, sound beaches that have little wave action have a "Tiger stripe" black" sand strata. Machines have no chance "Minelabs" . Yet the CZ can TID at depth with no problem? Lost????
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As far as Synthnuts machine. He got it back from Garrett. It seems more stable. The control head is the same one he had. They did change the coil. It still falses when brushing/bumping the sand. This reason alone is not why i don't own one. I do not and will not swing my coil inches in the air. Both my ETrac and CZ does not false when brushing the sand.
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Instead of calling out names of Mfgs. Why doesn't a company come out with a true beach machine? Give me a light fast waterproof machine that has a true gold range. But also make it stable. We beach hunters are in the dry, low tide wet, ankle,knee,waste, chest deep in water. Why make us adapt to "dive 250 foot" dive machines ? The dive machines we use today and adapt to are ok. B
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Gman, thanks. Thats kind of what i thought "G2". I love my ET for beach work. But where i hunt i only have a small window of time before the crowds/hunters hit. I found enough finds gridding off the sections last year to pay for my machines.
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Out of whats on the market today. What do you all think would be the lightest,fastest with good gold range "jewelry". No relics or coins. Dry sand only.
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Men are hunters and women are gathers. Hunting is in our blood. I have hunted wild game all my life until i moved to NYC. Now detecting and fishing has replaced it. Ever notice when you want something and are in the market for it? You/we research it, we hunt it and then........
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Good post. Brings me back to my last hunt on the beach. On my beach here in the NE. We get heavy ripples of black sand. So heavy that it can be picked up at times. What threw me off was that my ETrac and Jims Excal doesn't do well in this stuff. Completely opposite of what we are told. With these two machines "even my F75 that i had". Any targets that were at depth....in this type
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-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Snell
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 12:14 PM
To: Fisher Labs Customer Service
Subject: RE: FISHER WEBSITE INQUIRY - CZ-21
Most of those so called hair line stress marks are really just knead
lines that are developed during the molding process of the housings.
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Took some Acetone to anneal the cracks. Then used black epoxy to fill over. Never going to dive with it. Worst case i send it into Fisher. I think it will be fine. There are four cracks. All in the same places opposite of each other.
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Wondering if a CZ land machine is worth putting into my stable. Does anyone think Fisher is going to come out with something close to the characteristics?
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Cleaning my CZ after a hunt. I noticed what looked like hair line stress cracks. The lines are on both sides of the housing in the same places. What to you think could have caused this? Ive never dropped or banged it in any way. I did buy it used.
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It was a cold hard truth that lead me to lay down my F75 and put a ETrac in it's place. I would come back to Fisher in a heart beat if they made a land machine that can hunt the 100+ year old city parks i pound. Love my rock solid CZ-21.
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Jim, next time we get out there. I'm going to put/use the Pro coil on The ETrac. I found that ring we used in the test with the Etrac wPro coil. Maybe the Big 12x15 SEF isn't good for thin small rings? It's worth it to everyone to spend some time and do real world test. It really seperates the BS from fact, like it or not.
The one thing i explaned to Jim that day. If we were th
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