Just me or are others

Beyonder-Pa Wrote:
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> "''My Own'' Detector and do it myself'' This is a
> thought that used to run through my head all the
> time. Truth is, most people don't have the time,
> inclination, or interest to. I always hear, "I
> thought about getting one of those". I usually try
> to discourage them, for the simple fact, if you
> don't have a real passion for it, you won't enjoy
> it.
>
> Too many people and videos spreading the idea
> that, you will go out and find awesome things.
> It's a lot of hard work and dedication. Who would
> go out deer hunting, sit for 4 hours, not fire a
> shot and have say that they had a great day? Only
> someone who is passionate about it. Same with us.
> Who but us, would have such a great thrill of
> finding 35 cents in coins for 4 hours work, and
> enjoy it?
>
> The illusion of riches being found with a metal
> detector via 'the tube' and forums, brings in the
> "smash and grab", giant hole diggers looking for
> quick riches. This needs to stop. I have a few
> ideas on how it can, but it aint pretty.

Amen
I would ponder too say the attrition rate for newbies is 100 to 1 at least.
The hunting analogy is spot on,it has to be a passion,not an occasional hobby.
I like fishing but I can't hook up the boat at anytime,metal detecting I can hit my own yard at midnight if the fever hits me.

------------"Cz's still bad to the bone".------------
Living on a big ass Astroid.
The woman that got my rib,I want it back.

Beyonder-Pa Wrote:
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> Try some curb strips. I have seen people making a
> killing on them.


right! sidewalk easements in the correct locations i.e.: (old)
can be very productive,AND MOST hunters over look them!
try 'em out!..you may be pleasantly surprised!.use a small coil to get between the junk!

(h.h.!)
j.t.

ozzie Wrote:
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> I have a decision to make. Today I stopped at a
> sales trailer. My intention was to ask permission
> to detect an area where the demoed an old 1700's
> home and are building dozens of high end homes on
> the farm land that was part of the home. I gave my
> schpeel to the lady in the office. She was of
> bright and positive demeanor and said "Go for it.
> There's no one here that really gives a hoot". I
> said I don't want to get into needless trouble for
> trespassing. Again, she said with a smile, "go for
> it, no one is here during the weekends".
>
> I think the draw to pull out history will overcome
> my sense of me doing the EXACT right
> thing.....agree or disagree?


agreed ozzie! i done the same thing over the years!...the "lure"
is just so strong,so if i get "pitched",i go somewhere else is all!
been at it for 36 years ain't gonna stop now!

(h.h.!)
j.t.

Beyonder-Pa Wrote:
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> "I think the draw to pull out history will
> overcome my sense of me doing the EXACT right
> thing.....agree or disagree? "
>
> THE RIGHT THING IS, YOU GOT PERMISSION, YOU GOT
> HER NAME I HOPE, SO HAVE FUN.
>
> "Seems like every place I think of someone else
> has long before. "
>
> YEP. A LOT OF DRIVEN(TO BE NICE) PEOPLE MD'ED
> EVERYWHERE THEY COULD AND LEFT NOTHING FOR FUTURE
> GENERATIONS TO ENJOY THE HOBBY. THE DEATH OF THE
> HOBBY SQUARELY SITS ON THEIR SHOULDERS.


so what do you do when ya get tossed everywhere yo want to hunt?
take up knitting?..sometimes in life ya gotta "roll the dice",ya gotta have some "balls"
i,for one have hunted too damn long,and i ain't ready to just "give up" any a**hole can do that!
i'm gonna fight to stay in the hobby!..i'm just saying'

(h.h.!)
j.t.

Hombre Wrote:
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> ozzie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have a decision to make. Today I stopped at a
> > sales trailer. My intention was to ask
> permission
> > to detect an area where the demoed an old
> 1700's
> > home and are building dozens of high end homes
> on
> > the farm land that was part of the home. I gave
> my
> > schpeel to the lady in the office. She was of
> > bright and positive demeanor and said "Go for
> it.
> > There's no one here that really gives a hoot".
> I
> > said I don't want to get into needless trouble
> for
> > trespassing. Again, she said with a smile, "go
> for
> > it, no one is here during the weekends".
> >
> > I think the draw to pull out history will
> overcome
> > my sense of me doing the EXACT right
> > thing.....agree or disagree?
>
> Ozzie,
>
> If someone walked up to me, full knowing that I
> did not have permission to be there. I would
> rather be asked "How are you doing?" not "What are
> you doing?"
>
> Get the permission first, then you can concentrate
> on detecting rather than looking over your
> shoulder. Just my 2¢

funny i been looking' over my shoulder for a long a** time!
sometimes i make it,sometimes i don't,get it if ya can,(in particular,PRIVATE property)
but consider OTHER options on "public" property if ya don't!.,however,i do agree with you
in general,MAKE the effort to get "permission",IF possible!

(h.h.!

Harold,ILL. Wrote:
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> Welcome to My World so here I go pointing
> finger's,But too many in the Hobby Diggin'
> everything up with Shovels in open area parks.
> They see all the Newbee's on Youtube doin' it so
> they say why can't I use a Shovel too? Then We got
> all the Detecting shows makin' it look like you
> dig a gold coin every other time out gets the
> greed in people going who have no love of History
> or Collected Coins or Relic's or Civil War History
> in there life. But they ruin it for us guys who
> have the Passion. This Hobby is in trouble as I
> see more parks in ''other city's'' getting closed
> to Detecting also so enjoy it My Friend's as it
> will come to your home town too!


right! using a "shovel" in a public park is tantamount to shooting yourself in the head!
one would ask,WHY would one want to do that? perception is everything!

(h.h.!)
j.t.

DirtyJohn Wrote:
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> Yep, it's tough all over. I agree with Harold
> about the shovels in the parks. Seems like common
> sense to me.
>
> Don't know why some people in this hobby don't
> feel the need to be inconspicuous.
>
> It's an odd hobby and I knew that coming in. Why
> draw attention to yourself?
>
> I guess some people still believe we live in a
> free country. I used to believe that too.
>
> HH
> John


been my "mantra" for over 36 years!..NEVER,EVER, draw "attention" to your self
in a "public domain!..period!

IDXMonster Wrote:
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> I'll repeat what I've stated before. Every chance
> you get,pick up garbage(especially when someone's
> looking!) and WAVE at EVERYBODY! Not just the cop
> car or the park truck...EVERYBODY! There are a few
> people out and about that have an influence on
> things,including detecting,and you may not know
> who they are. If you appear to be a "friendly
> trash collecting dude" not only WONT you go
> wrong,you CANT go wrong. This is assuming that
> plugs are dug correctly and replaced nicely,you
> are not doing anything retarded and you're just
> out enjoying the fresh air. While we are wary of
> the select few that have to ability to change how
> or where we can detect,the more likely scenario is
> that most people really don't care. But we still
> have to do things according to common
> sense....including decisions about when or where
> to detect. The "when" is very important many
> times...


i tend to agree,HOWEVER,in my view,..RISKY!..i prefer to take a pass on that!
again ,as mentioned,drawing attention to oneself while performing this hobby in a public place
is,i feel "verboten" to be totally honest,i have to state for the record,that there have been numerous occasions
where i have truly wanted to crawl under a very large rock to avoid attention,and NOT because i was doing anything wrong,
but because after more than 36 years detecting,i STILL feel that no matter where jam hunting,i am about to be" ratted
on!..still,i manage to persist,and i ain't gonna quit! ..i'm just sayin'

(h.h.!)
j.t.

Harold,ILL. Wrote:
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> Well for the record I was talking about Public
> Areas, But I think you will find more and more
> people who watch the Detecting Shows sayin' to
> there self, Hey Self? why Should I let This Guy
> hunt My Property and find something valuable when
> I can Buy ''My Own'' Detector and do it myself?
> Don't mean to Be a Debbie Downer Just sayin'.


you are right ozzie,he is absolutely correct as it pertains to "private properties!"
that's a whole other issue,and he's exactly correct in all that he stated!

(h.h.!)
j.t.

more hunters will need to use very discrete walking stick machines as its all closing down .makers will need to adapt or go out of business