YOU do not have to Dig Crown Caps !!!

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Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 10/02/2016 06:30AM by auminesweeper.

Crown caps come rusty, whole, crushed, bent, mangled etc.....and believe me they all react differently and your idea may work but not all for sure...

Sure make me pick up your share! Its hard enough to see them with my Excal.

Past(or)Tom
Using a Legend, a Deus 2, an Equinox 800, a Tarsacci MDT 8000, & a few others...
with my beloved, fading Corgi, Sadie

Dan-Pa. Wrote:
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> Crown caps come rusty, whole, crushed, bent,
> mangled etc.....and believe me they all react
> differently and your idea may work but not all for
> sure..

Yes I know they do and I tested many different types, Shapes and conditions of Caps



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/02/2016 06:31AM by auminesweeper.

Yeah they handle bad ground better than concentric coils but you failed to mention the most important thing and that's DD's separation abilities compared to concentric coils.

Just get a Minelab FBS detector and crown caps are a non-issue while the deep silver is easy.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/01/2016 01:25AM by silverhound.

"You do NOT need one unless your Ground meter ( GND Reading ) is Above 75 to 78 ish At the most."


I did this video today just for you. I don't know about you, but I know which coil I would prefer to have on my MXT Pro in this 56 GND reading ground. And it's not the concentric coil. Now before someone says that the 10x12 coil is a larger coil and will go deeper, thus explaining these results..I will say that I also have a 6x8 SEF DD coil and it will do very close to the same thing the 10x12 does. So this ground is not even considered to be bad ground since the gnd phase reading is not 78 or higher. Well I will let the video show the rest.

[youtu.be]

Daniel Tn Wrote:
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> "You do NOT need one unless your Ground meter (
> GND Reading ) is Above 75 to 78 ish At the most."
>
>
> I did this video today just for you. I don't know
> about you, but I know which coil I would prefer to
> have on my MXT Pro in this 56 GND reading ground.
> And it's not the concentric coil. Now before
> someone says that the 10x12 coil is a larger coil
> and will go deeper, thus explaining these
> results..I will say that I also have a 6x8 SEF DD
> coil and it will do very close to the same thing
> the 10x12 does. So this ground is not even
> considered to be bad ground since the gnd phase
> reading is not 78 or higher. Well I will let the
> video show the rest.
>
> [youtu.be]

Good video Daniel.

I could care less about ground phase reading.

If say a F75 shows 4 bars or more on the meter,,,better scratch the concentric coil and go for the dd coil.

Isn't it amazing,,,it seems most manufacturers flagship model detector do come equipped with DD coils.
Wonder why???

Your site where you did your video,,,,looks to be carbon copy to the ground in my area at the lower altitudes,,go up 100-200 ft,,,mineralization goes up quite a bit.

Great bit of advice. An easier way might be be to raise the coil while swinging above the target and you will see a drastic drop in the TID meter. Example: An 80 to a 50 in a few inches above it. This works 90% of the time.

88junior Wrote:
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> Yeah they handle bad ground better than concentric
> coils but you failed to mention the most important
> thing and that's DD's separation abilities
> compared to concentric coils.

If you want better separation then use a smaller Concentric,



John.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/02/2016 06:35AM by auminesweeper.

Daniel Tn Wrote:
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> "You do NOT need one unless your Ground meter (
> GND Reading ) is Above 75 to 78 ish At the most."
>
>
> I did this video today just for you. I don't know
> about you, but I know which coil I would prefer to
> have on my MXT Pro in this 56 GND reading ground.
> And it's not the concentric coil. Now before
> someone says that the 10x12 coil is a larger coil
> and will go deeper, thus explaining these
> results..I will say that I also have a 6x8 SEF DD
> coil and it will do very close to the same thing
> the 10x12 does. So this ground is not even
> considered to be bad ground since the gnd phase
> reading is not 78 or higher. Well I will let the
> video show the rest.
>
> [youtu.be]

Good Video Daniel,

John..



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/02/2016 06:36AM by auminesweeper.

I do like the thought of an MXT, and John hitting12" with the 950 coil sounds impressive yet Daniel can't get near it in the same type ground, maybe you could do a video with your phone (or ask someone to video it for you) to show it hitting 12" and the settings etc it might help others out with the same machine?
And maybe another showing how to go about not digging crown caps would be great.

Edit

John.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/02/2016 06:43AM by auminesweeper.

I use the wiggle and pull back method on my F70 with my DD coils mounted.
As the front edge of the coil passes over these high number caps there is a drop in the numbers on about 98% of these things down to at least the foil to nickel range...most times down into single digit iron numbers but there will be a drop...coins and rings won't do this.
Some do that raise the coil thing for the same results, I just got more comfortable and very fast and efficient doing it this way.
Exceptions are the old steel caps that are smashed flat, rusted and laying perpendicular to the top if the ground...those might not drop at all.
I dug hundreds and hundreds of caps learning this and gaining confidence in this technique, now I rarely dig these caps at all.
Knowing this turned hunting in pop top infested public sites using DD's from a frustrating and energy draining endeavor into a pleasure.

This should work on any VLF unit with a DD coil, of course using concentrics this type of trash usually is not too much of an issue at all.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/01/2016 11:40AM by diggwr27.

diggwr27 Wrote:
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> I use the wiggle and pull back method on my F70
> with my DD coils mounted.
> As the front edge of the coil passes over these
> high number caps there is a drop in the numbers on
> about 98% of these things down to at least the
> foil to nickel range...most times down into single
> digit iron numbers but there will be a
> drop...coins and rings won't do this.
> Some do that raise the coil thing for the same
> results, I just got more comfortable and very fast
> and efficient doing it this way.
> Exceptions are the old steel caps that are smashed
> flat, rusted and laying perpendicular to the top
> if the ground...those might not drop at all.
> I dug hundreds and hundreds of caps learning this
> and gaining confidence in this technique, now I
> rarely dig these caps at all.
> Knowing this turned hunting with pop top infested
> public sites from a frustrating and energy
> draining endeavor into a pleasure.
>
> This should work on any VLF unit with a DD coil,
> of course using concentrics this type of trash
> usually is not too much of an issue.

I totally agree, and the F5 and the F70 all hold my attention because they have enough gizmo's to deal with any thing that comes up.

John.

I wouldn't even attempt to detect an area that had a lot of crown caps or screw tops with my detector, it would send me loopy, saying that i rarely come across them, scrap lead is more my enemy!

ghound Wrote:
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> I wouldn't even attempt to detect an area that had
> a lot of crown caps or screw tops with my
> detector, it would send me loopy, saying that i
> rarely come across them, scrap lead is more my
> enemy!

Learning good techniques really helps, I no longer hate sites infested with caps anymore as a matter of fact I love them.
I have a pretty great chance of finding some excellent things in areas where others have hunted but could never get a handle on these things or any heavy trash or better yet tried to hunt but gave up really quick.

On the other hand I kind of feel your pain on that lead thing.
I don't really hunt for relics much but one of my favorite sites in parks to hunt is areas near lakes.
So serene and peaceful.
Most of these kind of sites are also fishing areas and from what I have found fishermen don't manage to keep all of their lead weights safely tucked away in their tackle boxes as you might think.
I have dug many pounds of this stuff in my time, from those large heavy barrel shaped and triangular ones down to split shot of all sizes...even the smallest ones they make.

Even though they come in at all areas depending on their size they all seem to come in solid, clear and stable, all within my sometimes strict digging rules for trash behavior.
My F70 hits on even the tiniest ones that are fairly deep hard, and I just have to dig them with a signal like that.
There might be a way to recognize this stuff much more easily like I did with those crown caps but as yet I haven't figured one out.
I don't fish much anymore but I have a large supply of these now in case I do ever decide to start up again and I have a couple of friends that do still fish a lot that are very happy to take all the extra ones I don't want off my hands.
My pain is their gain.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/01/2016 03:41PM by diggwr27.

I think you missed the point of the video. You keep saying that a DD coil is not as good as a concentric coil unless the ground phase reading is 78 or higher. You've said that numerous times now. I'm showing you that ain't always the case. You keep making blanket statements thinking you have the whole spectrum covered when you actually don't. That's why you'll get in trouble making blanket statements. A concentric coil is not going to get a 12 inch coin in MY soil unless that coin is silver dollar size or larger; and it doesn't matter the size of the coil. I've already been down that road and that is why I choose the machines that I do with the coils that I have. I've found out what works best IN MY AREA and have came to accept that what works good in someone else's soil may not work well in mine. Thus when I see a blanket statement being thrown down, I will speak up.

I kind of knew the coil size thing would come up in relation to the video I did yesterday between the 950 coil and 10x12. SO I have another one to show. The 6x8 DD coil on the MXT Pro. Which if the 10x12 is the equivalent to a 11 inch round coil...this should mean the 6x8 is the equivalent to a 7 inch round. So I ran it over the same targets as yesterday with the same settings used in the previous video. And IMO, the 6x8 bangs out better on the targets than the 950 coil too. And we're still in that 56 ground phase soil.

Crown caps aren't a problem for me. Soldiers in the 1860s had cork top bottles and not crown caps so I don't run into them in the field. But I do run into various soil conditions in the camps and battle sites, and as you can see from my videos, the DD coils are what gets the goodies in this soil around here. You will dig the occasional shallower coin and relic but will leave a lot in the ground for the next person too.

[youtu.be]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/01/2016 03:49PM by Daniel Tn.

Daniel Tn Wrote:
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> Crown caps aren't a problem for me. Soldiers in
> the 1860s had cork top bottles and not crown caps
> so I don't run into them in the field. But I do
> run into various soil conditions in the camps and
> battle sites, and as you can see from my videos,
> the DD coils are what gets the goodies in this
> soil around here. You will dig the occasional
> shallower coin and relic but will leave a lot in
> the ground for the next person too.



I understand what you are saying but on the other hand there could be something else in the soil that is having adverse effect on your 950 coil but some thing is not right there because my coil does not behave like that,

John.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/02/2016 06:45AM by auminesweeper.

I don't think I have a bad coil since this is the 4th MXT I've had since their intro, and all of them behaved the same with concentric coils attached. That being the same with the flat 950 Eclipse coil and the newer style domed shape like what I have. You can put a DD coil on them and they turn into a totally different machine in the ground. Otherwise, what difference does it make that I commented? You've done your share of commenting in threads over the last few months. I quit posting here for a while because of you and Kemper showing up in just about every thread that was posted on the forum and then rabbit trailing it. Others also quit posting because of it; some have came back but don't post as much as they used to and others are not coming back.

BTW, I have the black box Whites 5900 with CB board in it. They call it the Blue & Gray Pro because of the decal on the box and inside the meter it has a card in it that has commonly found relics from the American Civil War listed on it instead of the coins/trash like the 5900 typically has; same machine electronically though. Anyway...I have the pancake 9" coil for it and the 8" maroon Royal coil too. Both are concentric coils. The Blue & Gray Pro wont hit any of these targets I have in the video, in disc mode (GEB/Disc) but it will sound off on some of them in all metal mode. That is with either coil. There aren't any DD coils of similar size to try on it...too bad too. Otherwise, this machine is just a show piece for nostalgia purposes in my relic display room.

You can take Fisher machines with concentric coils vs their DD counterparts of the same size, and you will see the same results here in this soil. You can take Tesoro machines and see the same thing. Tesoro is easier to do this with, because they always have the exact same coil size in either Widescan or Concentric models. So it's not just limited to one coil on this particular MXT that you say may be bad. Trust me...this road is paved with many hundreds/thousands of dollars worth of experimenting that I've paid out of my pocket and many hundreds of hours in the field. Of which, I am headed out to do some hunting right after I post this.

Daniel Tn Wrote:
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> I don't think I have a bad coil since this is the
> 4th MXT I've had since their intro, and all of
> them behaved the same with concentric coils
> attached. That being the same with the flat 950
> Eclipse coil and the newer style domed shape like
> what I have. You can put a DD coil on them and
> they turn into a totally different machine in the
> ground. Otherwise, what difference does it make
> that I commented? You've done your share of
> commenting in threads over the last few months. I
> quit posting here for a while because of you and
> Kemper showing up in just about every thread that
> was posted on the forum and then rabbit trailing
> it. Others also quit posting because of it; some
> have came back but don't post as much as they used
> to and others are not coming back.
>
> BTW, I have the black box Whites 5900 with CB
> board in it. They call it the Blue & Gray Pro
> because of the decal on the box and inside the
> meter it has a card in it that has commonly found
> relics from the American Civil War listed on it
> instead of the coins/trash like the 5900 typically
> has; same machine electronically though.
> Anyway...I have the pancake 9" coil for it and the
> 8" maroon Royal coil too. Both are concentric
> coils. The Blue & Gray Pro wont hit any of these
> targets I have in the video, in disc mode
> (GEB/Disc) but it will sound off on some of them
> in all metal mode. That is with either coil.
> There aren't any DD coils of similar size to try
> on it...too bad too. Otherwise, this machine is
> just a show piece for nostalgia purposes in my
> relic display room.
>
> You can take Fisher machines with concentric coils
> vs their DD counterparts of the same size, and you
> will see the same results here in this soil. You
> can take Tesoro machines and see the same thing.
> Tesoro is easier to do this with, because they
> always have the exact same coil size in either
> Widescan or Concentric models. So it's not just
> limited to one coil on this particular MXT that
> you say may be bad. Trust me...this road is paved
> with many hundreds/thousands of dollars worth of
> experimenting that I've paid out of my pocket and
> many hundreds of hours in the field. Of which, I
> am headed out to do some hunting right after I
> post this.

Fine



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/02/2016 06:47AM by auminesweeper.

auminesweeper Wrote:
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> Daniel Tn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I don't think I have a bad coil since this is
> the
> > 4th MXT I've had since their intro, and all of
> > them behaved the same with concentric coils
> > attached. That being the same with the flat 950
> > Eclipse coil and the newer style domed shape
> like
> > what I have. You can put a DD coil on them and
> > they turn into a totally different machine in
> the
> > ground. Otherwise, what difference does it
> make
> > that I commented? You've done your share of
> > commenting in threads over the last few months.
> I
> > quit posting here for a while because of you
> and
> > Kemper showing up in just about every thread
> that
> > was posted on the forum and then rabbit
> trailing
> > it. Others also quit posting because of it;
> some
> > have came back but don't post as much as they
> used
> > to and others are not coming back.
> >
> > BTW, I have the black box Whites 5900 with CB
> > board in it. They call it the Blue & Gray Pro
> > because of the decal on the box and inside the
> > meter it has a card in it that has commonly
> found
> > relics from the American Civil War listed on it
> > instead of the coins/trash like the 5900
> typically
> > has; same machine electronically though.
> > Anyway...I have the pancake 9" coil for it and
> the
> > 8" maroon Royal coil too. Both are concentric
> > coils. The Blue & Gray Pro wont hit any of
> these
> > targets I have in the video, in disc mode
> > (GEB/Disc) but it will sound off on some of
> them
> > in all metal mode. That is with either coil.
> > There aren't any DD coils of similar size to
> try
> > on it...too bad too. Otherwise, this machine
> is
> > just a show piece for nostalgia purposes in my
> > relic display room.
> >
> > You can take Fisher machines with concentric
> coils
> > vs their DD counterparts of the same size, and
> you
> > will see the same results here in this soil.
> You
> > can take Tesoro machines and see the same
> thing.
> > Tesoro is easier to do this with, because they
> > always have the exact same coil size in either
> > Widescan or Concentric models. So it's not
> just
> > limited to one coil on this particular MXT that
> > you say may be bad. Trust me...this road is
> paved
> > with many hundreds/thousands of dollars worth
> of
> > experimenting that I've paid out of my pocket
> and
> > many hundreds of hours in the field. Of which,
> I
> > am headed out to do some hunting right after I
> > post this.
>
> Well after spending so much money I am very
> surprized how little you have learned about
> detectors, Not to mention manners, As to what your
> SEF Coil does is little or no use and it totally
> unrelated to this subject of dealing with Crown
> Caps, I have no interest in any thing you say on
> the subject
>
> If you don't like my posts then don't read them, I
> am sure I will survive without your Approval as I
> have made it through life so far with out it, So
> the rest of it should be a walk in the park.

Bad manners???

Look,
Daniel does post his results,,,and has used a lot of different equipment.

I have learned from him,,,I don't think he is a BSer.

He just pointed out something he saw you posted.
As a matter a fact,,,you will even see where I questioned what you said.

You need to remember,,,more folks here besides the actual posters read here.

He doesn't need for me to defend him,,,,but I think you should be more receptive to what he says on this forum.

All of us want to share info.

His area,,soil wise is a bit unique compared to many other's soil who post and read here,,,but some folks actually detect,,"I think",,, and don't even realize just what tricks their soil is doing to their detect and or coil setups.

I will admit I have had my run-ins here too,,,and guess what some of these same folks,,,I have learned from.

I wished NASA Tom would talk a little about this subject.

Cheers.

Reminds me of an old saying... " no one likes a know it all "

The following statement told me about all I need to know. Quote, Anything to do with minelab is either a Con or Over priced or just Hype, I spent a few years wages on their gear, And I changed brands and my Finds rate went through the roof, The only time they will get any more of my money is if my Nuts are in a Vice and even then I think I could Tough It Out, Lol. John.

" Concentric John " might be a more fitting handle lol .

I am surprised at how smart you think you are You give yourself way too much credit. Your really just a soup sandwich. You can't accept that you are wrong on this and have been proven wrong via video. Your scape goat is the crown cap side show you are putting on. You carry on like you are the most knowledgeable person on the forum and I hate to break it to you but you are FAR from it. You never post any finds or talk about any of your outings...big or small. All you do is flap your jaws on the forum.

Anyone has their right to their favourite piece of kit.
Some like Racers, Deus, Tesoro, Minelab, Fisher, Garett, Whites and a whole lot of different brands I simply forgot to mention.

Why not bang the drum about your favourite piece of kit,... you can even BANG very loudly,... it's all just detecting.

Concentric John has raised a few pointers, loud enough and long enough for me to take notice.
Rather than stick to my trusted and true coils, why not add one to the mix and just see how it hunts for myself.

I'm allready the XP outcast because my favourite piece of kit is a Minelab X-terra for dirt hunting.

A lot of this "best of the best" is marketing. My dealer has turned from an XP guy into a Fisher Teknetics guy, used to be a Garett guy
and before even wore the Minelab badge. Never was into Whites solely because the profit wasn't there.
Seems to even be stocking the Nok/Mak gear.

So someone new will walk into the shop, take their pick out of the candy jar and go and make finds.
Hey digging crown caps might even "depolute" the ground enough to find him a true keeper below.

Stick it on the "brand badge facebook page" and sell another unit :-)

I don't mind people not showing their finds, couldn't care less. Because you dig the signals you get.
No use in fishing for lake trout on an offshore wreck.

But some people should add a little restraint into their mix,... no use in hammering on and on about the subject.
If they didn't get it in the first 3 times,... well they probably will never,... perseverance doesn't count on forums.
It's all just virtual.

Same with the MX Sport stuff not working up to standard,... taste the steak,... don't like it,... the dog doesn't mind.
Allthough my dog certainly knows a fresh deere/pork burger when it comes along. I do too.

I'm a Mauser/Swarovski guy when hunting. Recently bagged a 300+ yards deere. Guys in the lodge made a bit of a fuss about it.
They sight in their rifles at shorter distances,... never heard of a ballistic turret and range finder.

Anyway,... my freezer is filled with enough deere to last us through the winter and some.
Maïze is being harvested, seefishing temps are cooling down.
Bring on Relics and Cod :-)

We're all real manly men with sharp knives, hot concentrics, fast DD's, deep PI's, smooth thresholds, laser pointed hooks and then the missus shows up.

silverhound Wrote:
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> Reminds me of an old saying... " no one likes a
> know it all "
>
> The following statement told me about all I need
> to know. Quote, Anything to do with minelab is
> either a Con or Over priced or just Hype, I spent
> a few years wages on their gear, And I changed
> brands and my Finds rate went through the roof,
> The only time they will get any more of my money
> is if my Nuts are in a Vice and even then I think
> I could Tough It Out, Lol. John.
>
> " Concentric John " might be a more fitting
> handle lol .

HH
Johnb

Cool, that's fine,, Lol.

John.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/02/2016 10:49AM by auminesweeper.

scoopjohnb Wrote:
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> Anyone has their right to their favourite piece of
> kit.
> Some like Racers, Deus, Tesoro, Minelab, Fisher,
> Garett, Whites and a whole lot of different brands
> I simply forgot to mention.
>
> Why not bang the drum about your favourite piece
> of kit,... you can even BANG very loudly,... it's
> all just detecting.
>
> Concentric John has raised a few pointers, loud
> enough and long enough for me to take notice.
> Rather than stick to my trusted and true coils,
> why not add one to the mix and just see how it
> hunts for myself.
>
> I'm allready the XP outcast because my favourite
> piece of kit is a Minelab X-terra for dirt
> hunting.
>
> A lot of this "best of the best" is marketing. My
> dealer has turned from an XP guy into a Fisher
> Teknetics guy, used to be a Garett guy
> and before even wore the Minelab badge. Never was
> into Whites solely because the profit wasn't
> there.
> Seems to even be stocking the Nok/Mak gear.
>
> So someone new will walk into the shop, take their
> pick out of the candy jar and go and make finds.
> Hey digging crown caps might even "depolute" the
> ground enough to find him a true keeper below.
>
> Stick it on the "brand badge facebook page" and
> sell another unit :-)
>
> I don't mind people not showing their finds,
> couldn't care less. Because you dig the signals
> you get.
> No use in fishing for lake trout on an offshore
> wreck.
>
> But some people should add a little restraint into
> their mix,... no use in hammering on and on about
> the subject.
> If they didn't get it in the first 3 times,...
> well they probably will never,... perseverance
> doesn't count on forums.
> It's all just virtual.
>
> Same with the MX Sport stuff not working up to
> standard,... taste the steak,... don't like it,...
> the dog doesn't mind.
> Allthough my dog certainly knows a fresh
> deere/pork burger when it comes along. I do too.
>
> I'm a Mauser/Swarovski guy when hunting. Recently
> bagged a 300+ yards deere. Guys in the lodge made
> a bit of a fuss about it.
> They sight in their rifles at shorter
> distances,... never heard of a ballistic turret
> and range finder.
>
> Anyway,... my freezer is filled with enough deere
> to last us through the winter and some.
> Maïze is being harvested, seefishing temps are
> cooling down.
> Bring on Relics and Cod :-)
>
> We're all real manly men with sharp knives, hot
> concentrics, fast DD's, deep PI's, smooth
> thresholds, laser pointed hooks and then the
> missus shows up.
>
> silverhound Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Reminds me of an old saying... " no one likes a
> > know it all "
> >
> > The following statement told me about all I
> need
> > to know. Quote, Anything to do with minelab is
> > either a Con or Over priced or just Hype, I
> spent
> > a few years wages on their gear, And I changed
> > brands and my Finds rate went through the roof,
> > The only time they will get any more of my
> money
> > is if my Nuts are in a Vice and even then I
> think
> > I could Tough It Out, Lol. John.
> >
> > " Concentric John " might be a more fitting
> > handle lol

I did wonder as to why my dealer swore back a few years ago when I asked him to order me a V3i, I did not know that they had a low mark up price.

john.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/02/2016 10:52AM by auminesweeper.

They can't give outstanding customer service if the dealers walk away with all the profit.

Same with the big brands we sell, we earn a little when selling new. But the real profit is in customer service.
Parts available for the pro series 25 years plus.
No questions asked if a warranty needs to be handled.
Use their gear: chains, oils, blades, filters, sparkplugs,... you name it and it keeps on lasting with normal use.
And the dealers keep em running.

Detectorists want the latest tech, thinking it will give them an edge.
Our branch a 40 year old mower cuts grass, one born yesterday cuts grass.

So a metal detector brand needs to sell new, old tech is,... old tech. But new provides the dollars.
So if Jack Diddly throws major dollars into marketing DD wireless coils and people are finding stuff,... Sweet Home needs to follow if not to be perceived as Old Tech.

Even if the most sensitive VLF I know about, the Goldbug II uses a concentric elliptical and it just about has the finest Iron Disc I've encountered.
Effectively digging small leadshot between crowncaps :-)

HH
Johnb

John, seeing as you've got a youtube channel with other metal detecting videos, could you post up a few videos showing how your coils work much deeper than Daniel's?
good man thanks.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/07/2016 11:53AM by wildwally1.

scoopjohnb Wrote:
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> They can't give outstanding customer service if
> the dealers walk away with all the profit.
>
> Same with the big brands we sell, we earn a little
> when selling new. But the real profit is in
> customer service.
> Parts available for the pro series 25 years plus.
> No questions asked if a warranty needs to be
> handled.
> Use their gear: chains, oils, blades, filters,
> sparkplugs,... you name it and it keeps on lasting
> with normal use.
> And the dealers keep em running.
>
> Detectorists want the latest tech, thinking it
> will give them an edge.
> Our branch a 40 year old mower cuts grass, one
> born yesterday cuts grass.
>
> So a metal detector brand needs to sell new, old
> tech is,... old tech. But new provides the
> dollars.
> So if Jack Diddly throws major dollars into
> marketing DD wireless coils and people are finding
> stuff,... Sweet Home needs to follow if not to be
> perceived as Old Tech.
>
> Even if the most sensitive VLF I know about, the
> Goldbug II uses a concentric elliptical and it
> just about has the finest Iron Disc I've
> encountered.
> Effectively digging small leadshot between
> crowncaps :-)

Well your right the GB II is very sensitive, But you will see similar results by putting a GB II "type" Coil on the GMT.