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D&P-OR Wrote:
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> Monte Wrote:
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> > Del,
> >
> > I seldom miss an interesting post if it deals
> with
> > a Nokta or Makro or Tesoro model as those make
> up
> > my active arsenal. I have owned too many
> Bandido
> > II µMAX models to count since they came out,
> and
> > I borrowed a few Outlaw's from a Dealer friend,
> > then bought one to give it a fair try. So, as
> a
> > loyal Tesoro fan, and having used both models,
> > using the same search coils and hunting
> > side-by-side in the same sites (and you know
> the
> > types of dense nail and other iron debris sites
> I
> > deal with), I kept my Bandido II µMAX and
> dumped
> > the Outlaw.
> >
> > Their in-the-field performance in nails and
> > similar iron and non-iron trash is about
> > identical, and if anything there was something
> > about the Outlaw's performance that just didn't
> > feel right handling nails. Don't ask me what
> > because I haven't a clue. The Outlaw was based
> on
> > the Bandido II µMAX, according to Vince, and
> they
> > each use the ED120 Discriminate circuitry, but
> > .... It worked OK, but of all the microMAX
> series
> > of models, my two favorites are the Bandido II
> > µMAX, with GB capability, and the Silver sabre
> > µMAX, for "turn-on-and-go" simplicity.
> >
> > I only own and use the thin-profile 6"
> Concentric
> > coils I keep on them, as that's my favorite
> > trashy-site hunting coil. Let me just add one
> > closing comment with regard to hunting in "nail
> > beds" and picking a Tesoro model. Of all the
> > microMAX series I own my two favorites, and if
> I
> > wanted a 3rd but different model from that
> > 'series' it would be the Conquistador µMAX
> (NOT
> > the original Conquistador w/o the µMAX in the
> > label name as it had glitches).
> >
> > All of these models have the
> Low-Noise/High-Gain
> > circuitry and will provide a little louder
> audio
> > response and get a little better depth of
> > detection for general purpose hunting than most
> > former models. However, I did a lot of
> > side-by-side comparisons with all the Tesoro's
> I
> > liked when they came out against what I had
> been
> > using, and in really tough iron debris fields,
> and
> > I am including other smaller-size iron junk,
> not
> > nails and not rusty tin, but discarded iron
> car,
> > truck or tractor parts, the 'original' Bandido
> and
> > Bandido II are hard to beat!
> >
> > These two models, that brought the introduction
> of
> > the ED-120 circuitry with the first Bandido in
> > 1990, might not get the depth, but in nasty
> iron
> > trash you can't get any depth with the masking
> > iron in the way. I am still looking for
> another
> > pristine or close-to0-new condition Bandido or
> > Bandido II to put back in my arsenal ... and I
> > already have a 6" Concentric coil on a lower
> rod
> > just waiting to get one in-hand.
> >
> > Just thoughts and opinions based on personal
> > experience with Tesoro's for over 33 years now.
> >
> > Monte
> >
> > PS: I hope you two are enjoying pleasant
> weather
> > where you're travelling. Our nice weather is
> > ending, and there could be snow where you live
> > this Wednesday.
> >
> > PS #2: Other than performance and the 'feel' of
> > the Bandido II µMAX and Outlaw, I also didn't
> > care for the Outlaw's goofy push-button design
> > with the two-position button compared with the
> > logical toggle functions of the Bandido II
> µMAX.
> > Also didn't like the Outlaw's audio as well as
> it
> > was just a little 'different.'
>
>
> Thank you for your response Monte.---That is the
> info I was looking for---especially your first
> sentence of your second paragraph.-----Yes---Patsy
> & I are in NV right now--should be in CA in about
> three days (Lord willing).----We have been taking
> our time in travel & hunting along the way at
> selected spots.-----Stay warm up there in OR this
> winter my friend.----------Del & Patsy