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I like the audio..

Sounds TIGHTER!!

Pretty impressive on the steel bottlecap....especially with DD coil...

Nice looking kit there!

thanks for the share

Keith

“I don't care that they stole my idea . . I care that they don't have any of their own”
-Nikola Tesla

You are welcome.

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These detectors are going to sell like crazy. Garrett found a market for themselves.

The question is how fast this unit works... with double iron sound should be very fast to work in heavy iron... if not not good. Recovery speed test.

The A T Pro works darn good in iron. With similar d n a, see no reason the Max won't. HH jim tn

The audio is VERY good! Well done on the bottle cap audio, that's tremendous. I'd love to see how it sounds on that old flat rusty tin crap that litters my ghost town sites I enjoy detecting, because they sound pretty good on my Impact! I suspect they will sound just like that bottle cap.

I would've liked to have seen how a coin next to, on top of, and below the bottle cap would sound and ID.

Nice to see the wireless headphones, although I'm digging the Makro ones that don't quite go all the way over the ears for summer detecting, but the Garrett ones look solid and I like that Steve said you can get two full days of detecting from a single charge (although 5 hours seems like a long time to charge).

It's still a single frequency detector though right (no ability to switch to a low, mid or high frequency) ?

Might just have to try one once the hype dies down I liked my old ATP, except it didn't seem very deep, but it was very good in iron in pro mode (never used the standard mode).

hh,
Cal

I see they got a good handle on this new one. Those foam handles were terrible. I would like to see some salt water hunting videos. I heard it does better than the Pro.

I would get one as soon as they are available but from past experience, I am going to wait and see how the initial release goes. My first two AT Pros leaked.

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jim tn Wrote:
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> The A T Pro works darn good in iron. With similar
> d n a, see no reason the Max won't. HH jim tn

If you compare for what? Better: good enough This audio is little too complicated and will be clipped in heavy iron. This is my opinion. Delay, latency call like you want. Audio is very good, but how fast?

I will get my demo unit soon I hope.

I love Garrett ATP audio, but ergonomy -DON'T.

As a avid old coin hunter, the only thing I can compare the Pro to is the fact I find a good many good targets hunting through modern trash sites and demo'ed house sites. But, by the same token, I also find good targets with my F 75 LTD DST and Omega 8000. The audio is very telling on the A T Pro, however. And the Max sounds like it now may be even better. If the A T Max is in fact a bit deeper then the Pro, it will be even better for my kind of hunting. IMHO! HH jim tn

Seems like a nice "souped" up crossbreed PRO/GOLD. Now where is that delivery truck.....

Video showing testing of At Max.
Mr Edmonton's it looks like.
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Sod-buster Wrote:
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> Video showing testing of At Max.
> Mr Edmonton's it looks like.
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Keith or anyone how do these air depths compare to a F75 DST ?

doc holiday Wrote:
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> Sod-buster Wrote:
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> > Video showing testing of At Max.
> > Mr Edmonton's it looks like.
> > [m.youtube.com]
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> > youtu.be
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> Keith or anyone how do these air depths compare to
> a F75 DST ?


This is from host's thread on testing F75 series detectors. This thread page 14.
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Now, this air testing above shown in video, will this even transition to same targets Buried in mild ground???

NASA-Tom Wrote:
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> All-Metal Mode. This is a scientifically difficult
> mode to report...... as threshold/ears/re-tune can
> dictate final resultant; yet, some good data can b
> e extrapolated. First, , , , for all testing, I us
> ed 11" DD coil, 9.0, Sens 99, Ground Balance of '9
> 0' and 'Motion' mode. Buried clad dime in Florida
> dirt. I was always seeking to hear a slight, but a
> udibly intelligible threshold change.....enough to
> be categorized as a positive target response. Also
> , the process modes that you can select whilst in
> ID mode...... carry over to the all-metal mode. (W
> ith several unique observations I will discuss lat
> er).
>
> bp = 11.6"
> cl = 11.6" (Elongated audio response)
> je = 11.0"
> pf = 11.1"
> de = 11.0"
> bc = 10.1"
> FA = 10.4"
>
> Notice how there is not as much linearity carried
> over from the ID mode results. And notice the All
> Metal depth was slightly less than ID mode. Larges
> t contributor for this phenomenon/resultant is due
> to Florida's low mineral dirt. As a qualifier.....
> . I must say this: Some of the process modes requi
> red changing the 'Threshold' a small amount..... s
> o as to maximize detectors audible intelligence.
>
> * Ironically.......... performing only air-tests..
> ......... and depth/performance is nearly always a
> t maximum performance/depth....... even when switc
> hing through (and testing) all of the different pr
> ocess modes. The only change/difference is...... t
> he 'length' of the audio response. Invoking 'cl' m
> ode ... (then switching back to All Metal mode)...
> ....... and the targets audio response is elongate
> d.
>
> * Testing the 'Static' mode is too interpretive ..
> .... with largely varying resultants. When you res
> et the SAT/threshold audio...... by pulling the tr
> igger (and releasing)..... THIS ALONE can have a d
> ramatic effect on depth/performance; hence, too ma
> ny variables preventing solid/repeatable data.
>
> Okay. 9.1 performance/results:
>
> bp = 11.5"
> cl = 11.6" (Elongated audio response)
> je = 10.9"
> pf = 11.0"
> de = 11.0"
> bc = 10.0"
> FA = 10.3"
>
> There is minimal differential/delta in performance
> /depth whilst comparing 9.0 to 9.1........... All
> Metal -to- All Metal.
>
> * There is a slight EMI mitigation enhancement whi
> lst in 9.1....... and All Metal.
>
> * Whilst in All Metal......there is a large perfor
> mance difference ........ in regards to depth.....
> ... whilst comparing air-tests with "in real dirt"
> results. Especially with low conductors..... like
> a nickel. I can acquire a nickel at 19"++ in an ai
> r-test. In the ground....... at best..... is 12.8"
> . Interestingly........... if the nickel is 12.6"
> deep.......... you can sweep the coil 4.0" above t
> he ground (nickel is a total of 16.6" distance fro
> m the coil) and still clearly detect the nickel. T
> his is to say..... the All Metal mode is more air-
> gap forgiving (when compared to ID mode).
>
> * Another ironic observation is............ when F
> A mode is invoked........... I can acquire a dime
> at ... just over 10" ... in real dirt....... IN A
> TEST GARDEN ENVIRONMENT ONLY! In the real world...
> .... on live hunts........ it is rare to acquire a
> clad dime beyond 7" depths. This seems to only hol
> d true for the FA mode. This is the same phenomeno
> n the XP GMP encounters. I can acquire a 12.0" cla
> d dime in a test-garden environment ONLY. In the r
> eal world........ the nominal/median average of th
> e GMP (with stock 9" DD coil)..... is in the 7" de
> pth range,,, on a clad dime.
>
> * In air-tests............... switching through an
> y/all of the process modes (then invoking All Meta
> l mode)........ and there is a very minimal gain/l
> oss. Nearly the same air-test distance performance
> . In the ground...... the resultant differential i
> s dramatic.
>
> * Even with NO audible EMI............ switching t
> hrough the F1 - F7 noise-cancelling/EMI mitigation
> Freq's...... there is certainly notable performanc
> e changes. One "silent EMI" freq..... as compared
> to another "silent EMI" freq. THIS is where a larg
> e amount of my reporting/documenting 'delay' emana
> ted/stemmed from. WHAT do you choose. HOW do you '
> average'. Then.............. will tomorrow's atmos
> pheric EMI level/status change the results........
> ... from day-to-day? Yes! Some days.......... the
> delta/differential/change........... is minimal. O
> ther days...... and it's fairly dramatic. (The woe
> 's of utilizing a ElectroMagnetic detection device
> ......... in a ElectroMagnetic atmosphere....... o
> n a magnetic/ElectroMagnetic Core Earth!!! )))
>
> Because audible EMI is quite minimal on this new L
> TD2 platform...... I have had minimum interests in
> testing/data collection for Sensitivities of anyth
> ing less than '99'...... as long as EMI is silent.
>
> My test-garden dirt is 1-bar dirt. (0.1).



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Sod-buster Wrote:
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> Video showing testing of At Max.
> Mr Edmonton's it looks like.
> [m.youtube.com]
> youtu.be


Have you seen the last target?
5" of BS.

I like the Tones also. Man Depth seems to Be Good. Would be nice if they would have did a Silver Dime in The Air test and how Far it would Hit it. To Me it has a Analog type sound more so than digital? Is the Coin Mode 3 or 4 Tones? It's Modulated from what I hear. Good to see as People were saying it was just a Repackaged AT-Pro but seems Better to Me.

tones seem identical to AT Gold. Great for me but generally most people prefer the soft atp tones over scratchy at gold tones. Its more of a at gold rehash than at pro IMO.

I like the new Freq choice...

I think it will be more in line with a T2 and F75 ...

Airtest depths in all metal mode are impressive...

Not sure what the IDs are showing at these depths...

Too me it seems like an old school T2 Or F75 in all metal mode ..yet more behaved..

I know I WILL get one since it now has all metal mode.and should work in salt water compared to the AT Gold..

I leaned towards the AT Pro because to me it seemed to get better depth on all sizes of targets in my soil over the Gold version and it could handle my occasional salt water trip...with this new version slightly lower freq and rolling blendy bleedy tones with added depth of all metal I think we may have a better all around unit as of now for an all arounder..

If they would of only of done mixed mode like a MXT it would be about perfect single freq VLF ..

Anyone thinking its a At Pro may be right BUT....They have tweeked it..its hotter it seems and has added features...

VLF Is VLF so whatever we can get out of a unit audio wise and feature set wise and a sharp shovel will be the deal breakers...

Its been hard not to like the AT series since release and to be honest in years to come the AT series will go down as a classic design...In other words you know what your getting and they will be sought after and hold resale value..Heck an AT Pro will sell for 450.00 used now and they can be bought new for 490.00 if you look around..so that's pretty dang good...its has BRAND recognition and it has proven SEEN/SHOWN performance...Sort of Like Mcdonalds...I know what Im getting when I buy it...I can pull in any where and grab a BIg Mac and I Know what its like and from store to store its consistent..No surprises ..Just a proven product and you trust it ..

Garrett has to me Met a situation and really a Open gap in the detector market...a water unit that can be submerged and also do double duty in any situation..And do exceedingly well with excellent I'D's and world class unmasking..good battery life strong sturdy design..and great support network...

And come on..have you seen the price..722.00 at kellyco ..That's with wireless headphones...and added features...and it's waterproof..not resistant..Where else can you get all these features in a unit for that price...

Plus a Whole line of aftermarket coils that can be adapted to it and can get the unit deep or very sleuthy...

I'm going to check it out for sure and if its got that AT series DNA in it I think it will sell like hotcakes at that price...

What's nice is they listened and added features like larger ID numbers ...backlight...All metal mode..Wireless phones...and seems like added gain..even added the ground bal window..

And another unique thing on the AT series is the bard size...have you ever seen it???its just the size of the display and that's it ..that housing is just long to hold batteries..There doing alot with a small board...That takes a good engineering team to do that...Micro components...

Even the screens are sturdy and doesn't seem to scratch like alot of units..

We are at the time where the user is reaping the rewards at lower cost...and we are seeing Multi purpose units become excellent and WORLD CLASS against dedicated units..Yes you can still get a dedicated machine and push limits on certain targets in certain sites..but a Unit like this I can surmise in all but maybe prospecting or deep salt work will get 90 percent of what's available to VLF tech even up against a dedicated site unit...Skill levels and Proper key will always win out..and the AT Seems to have the right tools..And the lineage has one of the best LOCK on in iron ID's Ive seen with 5x8 coil..

If Garrett could ever get hold of some say simultaneous freq transmission tech there's that gut feeling it would overtake a minelab especially price wise VS performance ..Could you imagine a at series with Multi freq transmission for salt work and deep turf work..and the way they price theres units low...maybe come in at a Grand.. Keep the excellent rolling audio and response DNA but pump maybe half dozen freqs at once into the soil..

I'll go a little further and to me it this should of already been done..straight shaft pistol grip..just screen on top of grip about inch thick same face plate and all just depth of housing can literally be inch deep...put the battery supply under the armrest..no more opening whole unit to change batteries...that can already be done right now and no reworking of circuitry necessary ..just new thin housing and extend the battery wires to rear...or if they want to keep it all in same housing have them ( Batteries) side load like a XTerra then it could still only be 1"1/2 Thick/Deep...

Its a wonder some aftermarket company hasn't already made slimline housing and battery pod under elbow on a straight rod with all the new 3d printing available now..


Not trying to push Garrett But to me and what I know its a Unique machine that needed some tweeks and it seem like it's here...Depth if not deeper in disc can be surely got in in all metal in certain sites...and that's a HUGE PLUS..And the lineage is impressive for this LIne too...

In other words in a solid design and is a rung on the ladder in Garrett lineage..

Through out the years there's been ton's of machines and models built but only a few are remembered and sought after today as time passses and progress goes on...in twenty years I bet people still remember the AT Line..the The Mark 1..Nautilus... Sovereign, T2 the CZ, F75, the Explorer the 1266 the 5900 ,MXT those were trail blazers or apex VLF tech designs..I'm sure the AT can be slid in there in a decade from now...



Keith

“I don't care that they stole my idea . . I care that they don't have any of their own”
-Nikola Tesla

Keith, can't wait until you get one and do a report !!

Heck all I wanted was larger numbers and a backlight! I guess I got a little more! LOL......
I felt that with the Etrac/ATpro combo there wasn't much I couldn't cover......I'll be getting the Max as soon as I sell my 6 month old Pro......

Kenny
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I watched the Hoover Boys Video. Heck I watch all their videos. He mentions good stability on salt water beaches as long as you ground balance between wet and dry. Dirt Hunting? While this detector sure has more bells and whistles than the Pro and is a bargain for the price in my opinion I just don't see the new Max finding many more targets than the Pro.

Some thing I feel Garrett should have considered.

The wireless headphones are not waterproof, the way I understand it.

So, what could we expect to see happen occassionally?
Headphones being dropped into water??
I would expect folks to use this detector with these wireless headphones in say knee deep water, even shallower, or a little deeper.

Garrett should have considered a lanyard setup,,somehow so if headphones are dropped or if for whatever reason they fall off your head, they are caught-- hence stay out of the water.

And headphones should have been equipped with lanyard connecting point(s) as needed.

Thoughts???

And even if it is too late with production wireless headphones ready to release.
Can a good makeshift something be created to suffice.

And be offered even later.



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goodmore Wrote:
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> I watched the Hoover Boys Video. Heck I watch all
> their videos. He mentions good stability on salt w
> ater beaches as long as you ground balance between
> wet and dry. Dirt Hunting? While this detector sur
> e has more bells and whistles than the Pro and is
> a bargain for the price in my opinion I just don't
> see the new Max finding many more targets than the
> Pro.


I like the improvements and hopefully there is some added depth, but I'm not seeing it as a game changer either...........just yet, anyway. But, lets hope! HH jim tn

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With it being a single frequency detector, I would not expect it to be a depth demon in the wet salt sand.

The detector Garrett sent to John - Edmonton, was probabaly a hot one. Anyone who buys a Max should air test theirs, and compare there results to johns results, and see if they have a hot unit or average one. ( I'm not trashing Garrett by the way)

Lets hope they are all hot. I can see some grumbling if someone's new Max will only air test 12" on a dime after seeing John's numbers.That last video above hitting a buried quarter at 10 1/2" is still pretty strong. HH jim tn