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We're barely scratching the surface
December 05, 2017 05:58PM
This past weekend I took my Etrac to an old baseball diamond. I dug over 50 old coins from six to eight inches deep, mostly wheat cents but also some silver, including a Standing Liberty quarter, plus a couple of Buffalo nickels. None of these coins were textbook signals. They were all either difficult to hear or broken up. I dug anything repeatable that was "deep."

I also dug an old pocket knife from about a foot deep. Is there any reason why the pocket knife would sink deeper than coins? Isn't it more likely that there are a bunch of coins at this site which are too deep for me and my Etrac to find?

I guess the good news is that if detector technology ever truly improves with regard to absolute depth, there are probably many more coins remaining to be found.
Re: We're barely scratching the surface
December 05, 2017 06:03PM
Don't wait for any improved detector "Technology" Just hunt it with the E Trac and then go back over it with the Deus to get all that's left LOL!
Re: We're barely scratching the surface
December 05, 2017 06:19PM
choppadude Wrote:
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> Don't wait for any improved detector "Technology"
> Just hunt it with the E Trac and then go back over
> it with the Deus to get all that's left LOL!

I briefly owned a Deus and was not impressed with the depth. I also didn't like how it gave a high tone on anything round, including steel washers and crown caps.
Re: We're barely scratching the surface
December 05, 2017 06:22PM
there is a video of a guy with an E-trac and a pulse machine. He found signals with the pulse then checked them with the E-trac. Interesting results for sure.
Re: We're barely scratching the surface
December 05, 2017 06:27PM
Bayard Wrote:
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> This past weekend I took my Etrac to an old baseba
> ll diamond. I dug over 50 old coins from six to e
> ight inches deep, mostly wheat cents but also some
> silver, including a Standing Liberty quarter, plus
> a couple of Buffalo nickels. None of these coins
> were textbook signals. They were all either diffi
> cult to hear or broken up. I dug anything repeata
> ble that was "deep."
>
> I also dug an old pocket knife from about a foot d
> eep. Is there any reason why the pocket knife wou
> ld sink deeper than coins? Isn't it more likely t
> hat there are a bunch of coins at this site which
> are too deep for me and my Etrac to find?
>
> I guess the good news is that if detector technolo
> gy ever truly improves with regard to absolute dep
> th, there are probably many more coins remaining t
> o be found.


A deep old pocket knife could indicate fill dirt.

Running a detector that has true all metal, and dig some signals.

Depth of iron and nails might tell you some thing.
Re: We're barely scratching the surface
December 05, 2017 06:50PM
Beyonder-Pa Wrote:
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> there is a video of a guy with an E-trac and a pul
> se machine. He found signals with the pulse then c
> hecked them with the E-trac. Interesting results f
> or sure.

I saw that video a couple of years ago. Still can't justify the price of a GPX5000 for park hunting quite yet. Even the 4500 and 4800 are still up there.
Re: We're barely scratching the surface
December 05, 2017 06:56PM
In my soil the Etrac was also deeper than the Deus, not by much though. On clean ground using the Etrac i got deep with good ID till about 7"-8" on most coins, i go deeper with my Signum, 12" quarter size silvers with a good digable signal, but deeper right on the edge of detection your down to ferrous/non ferrous.
Re: We're barely scratching the surface
December 05, 2017 07:56PM
Bayard Wrote:
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> This past weekend I took my Etrac to an old baseba
> ll diamond. I dug over 50 old coins from six to e
> ight inches deep, mostly wheat cents but also some
> silver, including a Standing Liberty quarter, plus
> a couple of Buffalo nickels. None of these coins
> were textbook signals. They were all either diffi
> cult to hear or broken up. I dug anything repeata
> ble that was "deep."
>
> I also dug an old pocket knife from about a foot d
> eep. Is there any reason why the pocket knife wou
> ld sink deeper than coins? Isn't it more likely t
> hat there are a bunch of coins at this site which
> are too deep for me and my Etrac to find?
>
> I guess the good news is that if detector technolo
> gy ever truly improves with regard to absolute dep
> th, there are probably many more coins remaining t
> o be found.

That would be a perfect site to try the Equinox. Will it be a game changer in your ground?
Re: We're barely scratching the surface
December 06, 2017 01:56PM
Bayard Wrote:
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> choppadude Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Don't wait for any improved detector "Technology
> "
> > Just hunt it with the E Trac and then go back ov
> er
> > it with the Deus to get all that's left LOL!
>
> I briefly owned a Deus and was not impressed with
> the depth. I also didn't like how it gave a high
> tone on anything round, including steel washers an
> d crown caps.


I have no problems hitting silver dimes at 10"+ with the Deus. I own both right now and have many hours on each machine and can say my E Trac is nowhere near as deep as my Deus. Of course I am running the 11X 13 coil on it to get that depth.
Re: We're barely scratching the surface
December 06, 2017 03:38PM
I feel the explorer XS was deeper than any of that series....heck a CZ with stock 8inch coil will get 10-12 inch silver dimes .no need to swing garbage can lid...
Actually believe 20 inch coins in old areas are a reality...
Re: We're barely scratching the surface
December 06, 2017 06:10PM
Yes Dan the XS was the deepest FBS unit made to date.


Keith

“I don't care that they stole my idea . . I care that they don't have any of their own”
-Nikola Tesla
Re: We're barely scratching the surface
December 06, 2017 07:47PM
Bayard Wrote:
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> This past weekend I took my Etrac to an old baseba
> ll diamond. I dug over 50 old coins from six to e
> ight inches deep, mostly wheat cents but also some
> silver, including a Standing Liberty quarter, plus
> a couple of Buffalo nickels. None of these coins
> were textbook signals. They were all either diffi
> cult to hear or broken up. I dug anything repeata
> ble that was "deep."
>
> I also dug an old pocket knife from about a foot d
> eep. Is there any reason why the pocket knife wou
> ld sink deeper than coins? Isn't it more likely t
> hat there are a bunch of coins at this site which
> are too deep for me and my Etrac to find?
>
> I guess the good news is that if detector technolo
> gy ever truly improves with regard to absolute dep
> th, there are probably many more coins remaining t
> o be found.

I think there's more to it then sink rate. Burrowing animals, did horses ever grace the area, did a kid bury it when playing, was the terrain disturbed either by natural or man made forces?

During one of my desert trips we got flash flood rains one night. The next day after the rains were over, I went to detect a ghost town that's been detected to death over the years, but still gives up a good find now and then. When I arrived, the area had some major erosion events from the torrential rains the night before, it was like a winter beach erosion event had occurred. I started detecting the washed out areas, and immediately started making some good finds, and lots of targets were lighting up. I called a buddy that was nearby to come out and we had a field day detecting the eroded gullies, tokens, coins, jewelry, even bottles were found. We frequent this site a couple of times a year, the next time we returned about six months later, mother nature had filled everything back in. Now anything that sunk down in those gully washes will be a foot or deeper, and if anyone has a machine that can go that deep, they'll wonder how the targets go so deep.
Re: We're barely scratching the surface
December 07, 2017 07:29AM
Heck today using my Atpro received a good signal, hunt was in a forest type area, had a folding army shovel with me and dug a good foot deep then gave up..had a large 11" coil.
That was pretty deep wish had continued but had a pet dog with me had to watch. hh



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/07/2017 07:32AM by guvmore.
Re: We're barely scratching the surface
December 10, 2017 07:17PM
Try the impact and a bigger coil in all metal..may find a few more relics?

LowBoy

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Re: We're barely scratching the surface
December 10, 2017 07:18PM
When you have a site like that you have to keep coming back and then try the iron tones that maybe just a deeeeeep target. And in the spring the ground starts to push rocks upwards and I'm sure other objects..

LowBoy

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If you don’t dig it, then how are you going to know what you’re missing!
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Re: We're barely scratching the surface
December 10, 2017 10:33PM
Tesoro Mojave - field test - new site - 21" of soil dug out by construction crew - signals from coins from 3" - 6" from the remaining soil - makes 24" - 27"
Yes, we scratch surfaces!!! (Coins dated 1860 on)