Equinox silver video

Okay don’t laugh.. I’m trying to learn as I film and publish.

I need to work on my camera distance etc.. I also had my head phones on... next time I’ll try to hunt without them

[youtu.be]

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Minelab Etrac
Minelab Equinox 800
Garrett Carrot
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Nice hunt!
Thanks for sharing the video..

Thanks for sharing your video.
Nice one.

Thanks for the video. Congrats on the silver. I don't have an Equinox so I am just watching and learning. It seems the VDI numbers are jumpy for a Minelab. The two wheats were bouncy and the silver rang up low. I have no idea on your dirt, but I was a little discouraged by the VDI and the screwy depth meter. You mentioned faint high tone on the silver, but again the depth looked like maybe 6 inches? Thanks again for the effort. I know filming a hunt and trying to learn a new detector can be a hard combination to accomplish.

Gannon,

I enjoyed that video! Thanks for making it. Q:what did you shoot on?
Despite 'a little wind noise', the commentary which was very good was easily discerned!
Your scanning first style with the PP is similar to my hunting style.
WELL DONE for showing the very good holes re-filling.

The 'barking dog' @ 3.02 in, could it see you? If not he was hearing the Tx winding harmonics and barked at it!

Seems you filmed in a few different areas? One was very 'spongy' turf as it moved sideways so well saturated but dry beneath. I remember prototyping 'X-Terra' in a similar area and used get 'jumpy ID's too... so that might account for your jumping or 'imprecise' TID's

I liked your watch clearly visible @ 4.47

Your deep signal that turned into a Merc dime was really interesting and produced many TID's incl one Ferrous minus 1
16,20,-1,19,25,32,23,28,31,32
That I'm attributing to the soil as described above and perhaps your settings: Default???
In addition, I'd estimate the depth of the dime more like 7" maybe.
Overall a very nice video presentation and looking forward to others perhaps?

Good Hunting,
Des D

Good job with the video. What kind of camera are you using to film? Thanks for taking us along on your hunt!!

Thanks for posting the video.

Definitely not seeing Etrac like TID stability. The depth meter never moved, does it just put a line under a triangle block for the depth? You mentioned that the merc didn't give a TID, just a faint high tone, and it looked like there was another inch on the pinpointer to go before it bottomed out in the hole, so I think that's about 8", just wondering if the TID can only do 8" on a dime? And you echo the most common comments I'm seeing repeatedly, the depth meter and pinpointing are way off, wonder why that is? Those functions worked excellent on my Etrac.

Hmmmm....game changer?

Maybe try pinpointing the target precisely and then checking the TID and depth.. Both can be affected when the
coil is not centered over the target.. I see that the Equinox depth meter is calibrated to a US Quarter so smaller
targets are going to read a little deeper.. A lot of detectors are calibrated to a dime or penny size target..
I wish I wasn’t snowed in so I could test this in the ground myself..

Bryan

Cal_cobra Wrote:
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> Thanks for posting the video.
>
> Definitely not seeing Etrac like TID stability. T
> he depth meter never moved, does it just put a lin
> e under a triangle block for the depth? You menti
> oned that the merc didn't give a TID, just a faint
> high tone, and it looked like there was another in
> ch on the pinpointer to go before it bottomed out
> in the hole, so I think that's about 8", just wond
> ering if the TID can only do 8" on a dime? And yo
> u echo the most common comments I'm seeing repeate
> dly, the depth meter and pinpointing are way off,
> wonder why that is? Those functions worked excell
> ent on my Etrac.
>
> Hmmmm....game changer?

"Interesting comments.
Before I posted my Comments, I took my Garrett Carrott from my vehicle and measured it and I noted Gannon' probe was a good 2" out of the hole so I'm guessing 7"
I also took a good look at the side wall of the sod and it didn't look to be 9"?
And the dime must have been angled if the response and other indicators were 'iffy?"

Waiting for Gannon to respond.

Des D, I think that last shot of him standing the pinpointer in the hole is deceiving..
If you go back and watch him dig the mercury dime and probe for it, you can see that the pinpointer
is all the way in the hole. I think 9” was a good call.. No less then 8.
Start watching the video at around 12:20 a pay close attention..

Bryan



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/25/2018 08:28PM by Cabin Fever.

Yes, lots of interesting comments. I agree the TID is jumpy on deep silver (or other deep coins) certainly compared to the CTX. I never had an etrac but I did have (and liked) a CTX, and the CTX did better on deep coins, there's no doubt. Minelab said as much in their releases regarding the Equinox and Multi-IQ, that FBS is still going to be superior on deep high conductors, and my experience with the Equinox is that they were right.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 02/25/2018 09:08PM by wayfarer.

It appears to be a good solid 8" Gannon, would you please provide more information on what your settings were?





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/25/2018 10:28PM by EPL II.

Nice vid and hunt. Always great to finish with silver! I am scheduled to get an 800 this coming week. Can't wait for it!

Cabin Fever Wrote:
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> Des D, I think that last shot of him standing the
> pinpointer in the hole is deceiving..
> If you go back and watch him dig the mercury dime
> and probe for it, you can see that the pinpointer
> is all the way in the hole. I think 9” was a good
> call.. No less then 8.
> Start watching the video at around 12:20 a pay clo
> se attention..
>
> Bryan


Bryan,
I watched again and it looks like the 8 you said was more like it is and possibly 8.5"
Surprised this thread hasn't garnered more views?
Des D

Des D Wrote:
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> Gannon,
>
> I enjoyed that video! Thanks for making it. Q:what
> did you shoot on?
> Despite 'a little wind noise', the commentary whic
> h was very good was easily discerned!
> Your scanning first style with the PP is similar t
> o my hunting style.
> WELL DONE for showing the very good holes re-filli
> ng.
>
> The 'barking dog' @ 3.02 in, could it see you? If
> not he was hearing the Tx winding harmonics and ba
> rked at it!
>
> Seems you filmed in a few different areas? One was
> very 'spongy' turf as it moved sideways so well sa
> turated but dry beneath. I remember prototyping 'X
> -Terra' in a similar area and used get 'jumpy ID's
> too... so that might account for your jumping or '
> imprecise' TID's
>
> I liked your watch clearly visible @ 4.47
>
> Your deep signal that turned into a Merc dime was
> really interesting and produced many TID's incl on
> e Ferrous minus 1
> 16,20,-1,19,25,32,23,28,31,32
> That I'm attributing to the soil as described abov
> e and perhaps your settings: Default???
> In addition, I'd estimate the depth of the dime mo
> re like 7" maybe.
> Overall a very nice video presentation and looking
> forward to others perhaps?
>
> Good Hunting,
> Des D

Love my Garmin s20 watch.. I use it for golf.

Correct I was at 2 sites that day. One was a park that has very few signals. It was a park owned by the city, that looked like 2 vacant lots.

The dime I dug was only found initially by tone. I got a high tone and tried to see if it was repeatable.. it was. The numbers were all over the place but tone was pretty clear. I later hunted only this way and found all the wheat pennies.

XP Deus
Minelab Etrac
Minelab Equinox 800
Garrett Carrot
22 silvers, 2 silver rings, 1 Gold Ring -YTD 2018


Some of my random digs: [www.youtube.com]

EPL II Wrote:
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> Good job with the video. What kind of camera are y
> ou using to film? Thanks for taking us along on yo
> ur hunt!!


I use a Kodak ZX5 off EBay for $21!

XP Deus
Minelab Etrac
Minelab Equinox 800
Garrett Carrot
22 silvers, 2 silver rings, 1 Gold Ring -YTD 2018


Some of my random digs: [www.youtube.com]

Cal_cobra Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Thanks for posting the video.
>
> Definitely not seeing Etrac like TID stability. T
> he depth meter never moved, does it just put a lin
> e under a triangle block for the depth? You menti
> oned that the merc didn't give a TID, just a faint
> high tone, and it looked like there was another in
> ch on the pinpointer to go before it bottomed out
> in the hole, so I think that's about 8", just wond
> ering if the TID can only do 8" on a dime? And yo
> u echo the most common comments I'm seeing repeate
> dly, the depth meter and pinpointing are way off,
> wonder why that is? Those functions worked excell
> ent on my Etrac.
>
> Hmmmm....game changer?

Yeah the depth meter useless pretty much.
I haven’t came across a deeper coin beyond 8-9 inches so I can’t really gauge it.

XP Deus
Minelab Etrac
Minelab Equinox 800
Garrett Carrot
22 silvers, 2 silver rings, 1 Gold Ring -YTD 2018


Some of my random digs: [www.youtube.com]

EPL II Wrote:
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> It appears to be a good solid 8" Gannon, would yo
> u please provide more information on what your set
> tings were?
>
> [/u
> rl]


I was using park 2, tracking GB and noise cancel. Reactivity of 5.

XP Deus
Minelab Etrac
Minelab Equinox 800
Garrett Carrot
22 silvers, 2 silver rings, 1 Gold Ring -YTD 2018


Some of my random digs: [www.youtube.com]

wayfarer Wrote:
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> Yes, lots of interesting comments. I agree the TI
> D is jumpy on deep silver (or other deep coins) ce
> rtainly compared to the CTX. I never had an etrac
> but I did have (and liked) a CTX, and the CTX did
> better on deep coins, there's no doubt. Minelab s
> aid as much in their releases regarding the Equino
> x and Multi-IQ, that FBS is still going to be supe
> rior on deep high conductors, and my experience wi
> th the Equinox is that they were right.

It’s a fine machine for sure.. but there is an issue with outer coil detection as your post said yesterday. I’ve missed 6-7 targets so far that we’re near trash.

XP Deus
Minelab Etrac
Minelab Equinox 800
Garrett Carrot
22 silvers, 2 silver rings, 1 Gold Ring -YTD 2018


Some of my random digs: [www.youtube.com]

That video camera takes nice clear pictures at a bargain price!

I use a Kodak ZX5 off EBay for $21!


Thank you for the settings.

I was using park 2, tracking GB and noise cancel. Reactivity of 5.

Gannon Wrote:
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> It’s a fine machine for sure.. but there is an iss
> ue with outer coil detection as your post said yes
> terday. I’ve missed 6-7 targets so far that we’re
> near trash.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that found this a challenge. I was starting to think I was imagining things since I was the only one to have mentioned noticing this. Like I said in my earlier post, all DD coils do this to some extent, but the Equinox is the worst in this regard. I think it's just the nature of the beast and something to have to learn to get used to. It sure makes me yearn for a nice concentric coil, since in my mild soil I don't really need the DD, but I doubt Minelab will give us one. Hopefully the 6" coil will be better.

wayfarer Wrote:
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> Gannon Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > It’s a fine machine for sure.. but there is an i
> ss
> > ue with outer coil detection as your post said y
> es
> > terday. I’ve missed 6-7 targets so far that we’r
> e
> > near trash.
>
> I'm glad I'm not the only one that found this a ch
> allenge. I was starting to think I was imagining t
> hings since I was the only one to have mentioned n
> oticing this. Like I said in my earlier post, all
> DD coils do this to some extent, but the Equinox i
> s the worst in this regard. I think it's just th
> e nature of the beast and something to have to lea
> rn to get used to. It sure makes me yearn for a n
> ice concentric coil, since in my mild soil I don't
> really need the DD, but I doubt Minelab will give
> us one. Hopefully the 6" coil will be better.


I posted this earlier in another thread here.

Something I have witnessed multiple times using the Nox.

I get a signal.
Pinpoint and start digging.
Miss the target (determined after recovery).

Equinox though when hole is dug adjacent to nonferrous find, meaning all dirt directly on top of nonferrous is still intact, but some dirt under coil is missing when sweeping nonferrous, Equinox fails to detect. Using pinpoint will sound off on target. Usually broad signal.

Super high percentage of nonferrous targets doing the above are flatter nonferrous on edge.
And this is using a locked auto GB.

Be advised, good way to walk off and leave a good find.

Makes me think, Nox is using the dirt somewhat at least to signal on find. Or the missing dirt under coil is confusing the Nox someway.

Thought I would share.

Btw, I super highly recommend folks use Nox with a pinpointer. If you choose not too, you will be spending a lot of additional time recovering some targets. Gotta have confidence with what you heard. Don't give up prematurely. You find a nail or nails, watch out, don't quit trying to recover your target necessarily.

Off all detectors I have run. I using Nox I am finding more nonferrous targets in sides of holes dug after proper pinpointing and X sweeping. And nonferrous just outside of side of hole.
Don't take this above wrong, Nox is locating things for me. I like that.

wayfarer Wrote:
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> Gannon Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > It’s a fine machine for sure.. but there is an i
> ss
> > ue with outer coil detection as your post said y
> es
> > terday. I’ve missed 6-7 targets so far that we’r
> e
> > near trash.
>
> I'm glad I'm not the only one that found this a ch
> allenge. I was starting to think I was imagining t
> hings since I was the only one to have mentioned n
> oticing this. Like I said in my earlier post, all
> DD coils do this to some extent, but the Equinox i
> s the worst in this regard. I think it's just th
> e nature of the beast and something to have to lea
> rn to get used to. It sure makes me yearn for a n
> ice concentric coil, since in my mild soil I don't
> really need the DD, but I doubt Minelab will give
> us one. Hopefully the 6" coil will be better.


I agree. It still stumps me why it occurs. All other detectors I’ve used or still have (T2, AT Max, Deus, Etrac, AT Pro, Vaquero) this doesn’t occur.
Sunday I was filming and I could have swore 3 targets were there. 1:30 of searching, I turned the camera off. To scan the plugs.. dime piped out. No other targets in or near by.
So far, this is my only real issue, which takes time to learn... or get use to.

I have found with the Equinox using a Slower speed helps pick out high tones.

One really good feature? I have yet to dig big iron, deep “wrap around” rusted nails.
Deus and the Etrac LOVE deep corroded iron, this is a huge plus I’m finding with the Equinox.

XP Deus
Minelab Etrac
Minelab Equinox 800
Garrett Carrot
22 silvers, 2 silver rings, 1 Gold Ring -YTD 2018


Some of my random digs: [www.youtube.com]

Does that happen on shallow targets? Raising the coil would help then.

Rick

Yes, only on shallow targets, and yes, raising the coil definitely helps. There are workarounds, just that it can making working in areas with lots of shallow targets rather confusing - it's just something to be aware of.

And tnsharpshooter, you did indeed point this out in your earlier posts. This pronounced edge effect seems to fooling a fair number of very experienced detectorists.