EQUINOX, Now That The Smoke Has Cleared.

Well, now that the chum has been thrown in the water, and the feeding frenzy has begun. Unveilings are intended to whip up excitement among the targeted market. From that standpoint, the Equinox is a success!

Now that the overly excitable folks have had a chance to change their shorts (and hopefully did so), and taken a deep breath. It's time to take a pragmatic look at this new machine. It appears there'll be plenty of time for those like myself, who prefer to look new equipment over very closely, and see it's realworld capabilities strengths/weaknesses before purchase. Patience before purchase!

I personally was never a fan of, nor have I ever got into the "pre-order" thing. I would be interested to know how many ATM "pre-order" folks have cancelled their order, or are considering it, or, at very least regret making too quick of a decision? Knowing the true capabilities of a machine is to me, of huge importance, rather than basing it on a press release, and no serious objective testing. Pre-production machines are not always set up, or perform as the production version!

A few personal thoughts/questions on the Equinox, based on as yet, limited information:

It's certainly going to provide a serious challenge to the Impact, and ATM! It clearly provides more diverse abilities than the others, at a similar price. I'm sure it will become very popular among the beach hunting folks. Providing it performs as expected in that domain.

I can't help but think of this machine as a modernized/simplified/submersible V3i. That's not a bad thing at all!

The specifics of the multi-frequency feature are very vague. This has fueled much speculation, perhaps creating higher expectations, and comments as to it's abilities in relation to the FBS machines. It is reasonably clear to me that, it is NOT the FBS/Smartfind of the Etrac technology, and certainly NOT the FBS2/Smartfind2 of the CTX. I believe those who have that expectation of the multi freq. of the Equinox, are mistaken. Minelab made no reference, nor indication that it was intended, or able to match the FBS2 technology, or render the FBS machines irrelevant, to my knowledge. That's wishful thinking, IMO.

In terms of any serious "breakthrough technology", It surely would have been announced and emphasized to further fuel the frenzy/excitement among prospective buyers, had it contained any. The silence on that front, is notable to me. There is nothing I can see that gives it any super powers in any specific way.

As to performance levels, that's where it all counts! No extensive information on that. I'll be very interested to see the objective opinions from realworld, knowledgeable, independent users. How will the individual, single frequencies perform? Will they be as good as, or better than, current single frequency machines, with coils, and software specifically tuned to that one frequency? Will there be one frequency that performs better, as has been suggested with other changeable frequency machines? How well will the 40Khz and prospecting program perform?

Too many unanswered performance questions for me to make any super machine anology! There's certainly some promising possibilities.

Right now, what I see, is a very nicely featured, multi use machine, at a competitive price level. Did I mention that it reminds me of a modernized/simplified/submersible V3i?

It's true performance levels, in all the detecting environments, will determine it's true worth, and place in the detecting world. Since it's not even on the market yet, the jury hasn't even been given all the facts, let alone, started deliberation! I await the performance results from actual production machines.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/19/2017 04:09PM by EMField.

From what I understand(it may not be correct):

This is new technology.
This will use two detect modes simultaneously. One for just the ground and the other as a regular detect mode.
The TID numbers are not set/complete.
This is NOT FBS/BBS.
This can run single frequency or multi-frequency.
The methodology of this machine is different than any on the market.
It is extremely fast at target separation/unmasking.
The ones that have been shown so far, are Beta models(maybe an alpha as well).
There are many testing this machine around the world(most likely under an NDA).
(IMO) There will be no fe/co formatted numbers. However we may see a new number system.
The little shovel graphic is staying(ugh).

To me, these are things which KINDA separate it from other VLFs

Its a Minelab.... It will perform and it will perform good.
They know their $h!t...

Pre-ordering was an easy decision for me.
I did it with the Monster and I'm thrilled with it!

Bryan

One can argue about the strengths and weaknesses of this new detector until it is released. The real reason to get excited is that finally after twenty some odd years going back to the very first Sovereign a manufacturer finally listened to salt beach hunters. Now whether this detector performs with the depth and stability we need is all speculation, but the excitement and demand for the features on this detector are real.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/19/2017 04:55PM by goodmore.

Cabin Fever Wrote:
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> Its a Minelab.... It will perform and it will perf
> orm good.
> They know their $h!t...
>
> Pre-ordering was an easy decision for me.
> I did it with the Monster and I'm thrilled with it
> !
>
> Bryan

I only partially agree.
Do you think they missed badly on the GoFind line? They're also Minelabs. Do they perform?

I have cancelled my AT max order which was paid in full and putting the funds torwards an Equinox 600 and 800. I cancelled it because the Equinox has selectable freqs and simultaneous multi frequency for around same price and ergonomics look better. Still going to keep my CTX, Excals, Deus, AT pro and TDI pro for now. My detector arsenal will likely change again as I'm sure FTP is gonna give me no choice once they release their game changer pulse machine or whatever else they got coming out. I have a good feeling about these Equinox machines time will tell if there gonna be good or not, I respect the guys that'll wait n see how it does first but I'm jumping on this train right away because if the reviews come back that it's an awesome new tech I don't wanna be on a waiting list for months and if the reviews come back not so good it's not a huge loss.

John

EMField Wrote:
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> It's certainly going to provide a serious challe
> nge to the Impact, and ATM! It clearly provides
> more diverse abilities than the others, at a simil
> ar price. I'm sure it will become very popular a
> mong the beach hunting folks. Providing it perfor
> ms as expected in that domain.
>
> I can't help but think of this machine as a mode
> rnized/simplified/submersible V3i. That's not a b
> ad thing at all!
>

Not sure that I'd agree that it provides more diverse abilities then the Impact. It has the ability to do simultaneous multi-frequencies, and the Nox 800 has the 40kHz prospecting mode, which are both great features, but aside from that the Impact actually has a lot more modes (12 search modes vs 4 for example) and AFAIK thus far it's more tweakable.

Does the Nox offer adjustable iron audio and adjustable tone break? Those are pretty big features for me, hunting iron infested sites with adjustable iron audio is a game changer IMHO.

Once I see some positive reports on the Nox to validate it's performance, I'll be ordering one. It would be awesome to have the "perfect" an all in one machine, did ML finally make it???

I'd really like to see the "expert" menu on the Nox, and I'm very curious if they still have a noise cancel function like the Explorer series. This ability to pick the cleanest frequencies to use is a huge asset as well as we generally have no idea what EMI is present, unless it's audible. I heard the Scottish ML guy mention the noise cancel, but he made an odd comment, like "this doesn't have it because it's a beta build" or something to that affect.

dave_e Wrote:
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> Cabin Fever Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Its a Minelab.... It will perform and it will pe
> rf
> > orm good.
> > They know their $h!t...
> >
> > Pre-ordering was an easy decision for me.
> > I did it with the Monster and I'm thrilled with
> it
> > !
> >
> > Bryan
>
> I only partially agree.
> Do you think they missed badly on the GoFind line?
> They're also Minelabs. Do they perform?

If I'm not mistaken, I think the GoFinds are entry level kids detectors.
I don't think they were designed to complete with the big boys.
I could be wrong?
Bryan

Nox. I like that Brian. You could even add the number....The Nox 6, or the Nox 8.

HH
Mike

I hear what you're saying BP.

I guess what I was referring to when I said "breakthrough technology" I meant, is it demonstrably better in any specific detecting realm? Is it simply new technology as in, it performs the task differently, with similar results, or does it give clear, unequivical, unequalled, MUCH BETTER results in any one, or more detecting parameters? Something like providing huge depth increases, absolute iron unmasking, etc., clear "breakthrough technology" that is totally unmatched by others. Not just the features in other detectors in which it is "KINDA" better that we have come to know over the years. If you get my point?

Different "methodology" doesn't always translate into better/best end results. I have seen no impirical evidence that claims to provide that game changing result in any detecting parameter. I assume, if there was one, it would be put out there in the boldest of print, and demonstrated, to show such a "breakthrough". I, and every other hobbyist would love to see that happen, but, I haven't seen it in this machine as of yet. Emphasis would surely be given to such a game changer on rollout, if it existed.

EMField Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Well, now that the chum has been thrown in the wat
> er, and the feeding frenzy has begun. Unveilings
> are intended to whip up excitement among the targe
> ted market. From that standpoint, the Equinox is
> a success!
>
> Now that the overly excitable folks have had a cha
> nce to change their shorts (and hopefully did so),
> and taken a deep breath. It's time to take a prag
> matic look at this new machine. It appears there'
> ll be plenty of time for those like myself, who pr
> efer to look new equipment over very closely, and
> see it's realworld capabilities strengths/weakness
> es before purchase. Patience before purchase!
>
> I personally was never a fan of, nor have I ever g
> ot into the "pre-order" thing. I would be interes
> ted to know how many ATM "pre-order" folks have ca
> ncelled their order, or are considering it, or, at
> very least regret making too quick of a decision?
> Knowing the true capabilities of a machine is to m
> e, of huge importance, rather than basing it on a
> press release, and no serious objective testing.
> Pre-production machines are not always set up, or
> perform as the production version!
>
> A few personal thoughts/questions on the Equinox,
> based on as yet, limited information:
>
> It's certainly going to provide a serious challe
> nge to the Impact, and ATM! It clearly provides
> more diverse abilities than the others, at a simil
> ar price. I'm sure it will become very popular a
> mong the beach hunting folks. Providing it perfor
> ms as expected in that domain.
>
> I can't help but think of this machine as a mode
> rnized/simplified/submersible V3i. That's not a b
> ad thing at all!
>
> The specifics of the multi-frequency feature are
> very vague. This has fueled much speculation, pe
> rhaps creating higher expectations, and comments a
> s to it's abilities in relation to the FBS machine
> s. It is reasonably clear to me that, it is NOT t
> he FBS/Smartfind of the Etrac technology, and cert
> ainly NOT the FBS2/Smartfind2 of the CTX. I belie
> ve those who have that expectation of the multi fr
> eq. of the Equinox, are mistaken. Minelab made no
> reference, nor indication that it was intended, or
> able to match the FBS2 technology, or render the F
> BS machines irrelevant, to my knowledge. That's w
> ishful thinking, IMO.
>
> In terms of any serious "breakthrough technology
> ", It surely would have been announced and emphasi
> zed to further fuel the frenzy/excitement among pr
> ospective buyers, had it contained any. The silen
> ce on that front, is notable to me. There is nothi
> ng I can see that gives it any super powers in any
> specific way.
>
> As to performance levels, that's where it all co
> unts! No extensive information on that. I'll be
> very interested to see the objective opinions from
> realworld, knowledgeable, independent users. How
> will the individual, single frequencies perform?
> Will they be as good as, or better than, current s
> ingle frequency machines, with coils, and software
> specifically tuned to that one frequency? Will th
> ere be one frequency that performs better, as has
> been suggested with other changeable frequency mac
> hines? How well will the 40Khz and prospecting pr
> ogram perform?
>
> Too many unanswered performance questions for me
> to make any super machine anology! There's certai
> nly some promising possibilities.
>
> Right now, what I see, is a very nicely featured
> , multi use machine, at a competitive price level.
> Did I mention that it reminds me of a modernized/s
> implified/submersible V3i?
>
> It's true performance levels, in all the detecting
> environments, will determine it's true worth, and
> place in the detecting world. Since it's not eve
> n on the market yet, the jury hasn't even been giv
> en all the facts, let alone, started deliberation!
> I await the performance results from actual produc
> tion machines.

Very good post IMO. Reflects my thoughts as well...

Steve

EMField Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Well, now that the chum has been thrown in the wat
> er, and the feeding frenzy has begun. Unveilings
> are intended to whip up excitement among the targe
> ted market. From that standpoint, the Equinox is
> a success!
>
> Now that the overly excitable folks have had a cha
> nce to change their shorts (and hopefully did so),
> and taken a deep breath. It's time to take a prag
> matic look at this new machine. It appears there'
> ll be plenty of time for those like myself, who pr
> efer to look new equipment over very closely, and
> see it's realworld capabilities strengths/weakness
> es before purchase. Patience before purchase!
>
> I personally was never a fan of, nor have I ever g
> ot into the "pre-order" thing. I would be interes
> ted to know how many ATM "pre-order" folks have ca
> ncelled their order, or are considering it, or, at
> very least regret making too quick of a decision?
> Knowing the true capabilities of a machine is to m
> e, of huge importance, rather than basing it on a
> press release, and no serious objective testing.
> Pre-production machines are not always set up, or
> perform as the production version!
>
> A few personal thoughts/questions on the Equinox,
> based on as yet, limited information:
>
> It's certainly going to provide a serious challe
> nge to the Impact, and ATM! It clearly provides
> more diverse abilities than the others, at a simil
> ar price. I'm sure it will become very popular a
> mong the beach hunting folks. Providing it perfor
> ms as expected in that domain.
>
> I can't help but think of this machine as a mode
> rnized/simplified/submersible V3i. That's not a b
> ad thing at all!
>
> The specifics of the multi-frequency feature are
> very vague. This has fueled much speculation, pe
> rhaps creating higher expectations, and comments a
> s to it's abilities in relation to the FBS machine
> s. It is reasonably clear to me that, it is NOT t
> he FBS/Smartfind of the Etrac technology, and cert
> ainly NOT the FBS2/Smartfind2 of the CTX. I belie
> ve those who have that expectation of the multi fr
> eq. of the Equinox, are mistaken. Minelab made no
> reference, nor indication that it was intended, or
> able to match the FBS2 technology, or render the F
> BS machines irrelevant, to my knowledge. That's w
> ishful thinking, IMO.
>
> In terms of any serious "breakthrough technology
> ", It surely would have been announced and emphasi
> zed to further fuel the frenzy/excitement among pr
> ospective buyers, had it contained any. The silen
> ce on that front, is notable to me. There is nothi
> ng I can see that gives it any super powers in any
> specific way.
>
> As to performance levels, that's where it all co
> unts! No extensive information on that. I'll be
> very interested to see the objective opinions from
> realworld, knowledgeable, independent users. How
> will the individual, single frequencies perform?
> Will they be as good as, or better than, current s
> ingle frequency machines, with coils, and software
> specifically tuned to that one frequency? Will th
> ere be one frequency that performs better, as has
> been suggested with other changeable frequency mac
> hines? How well will the 40Khz and prospecting pr
> ogram perform?
>
> Too many unanswered performance questions for me
> to make any super machine anology! There's certai
> nly some promising possibilities.
>
> Right now, what I see, is a very nicely featured
> , multi use machine, at a competitive price level.
> Did I mention that it reminds me of a modernized/s
> implified/submersible V3i?
>
> It's true performance levels, in all the detecting
> environments, will determine it's true worth, and
> place in the detecting world. Since it's not eve
> n on the market yet, the jury hasn't even been giv
> en all the facts, let alone, started deliberation!
> I await the performance results from actual produc
> tion machines.


I pre ordered the pinpointers and Minelab was trying to tell me I should pre order the Nox but I declined. I will wait I'm sure there will be some in field videos coming in the next couple of months I want to see it in action before pulling the trigger

>
> If I'm not mistaken, I think the GoFinds are entry
> level kids detectors.
> I don't think they were designed to complete with
> the big boys.
> I could be wrong?
> Bryan


I believe ML wanted something extremly cheap for the newbies and children. which in its price range inst a awefull detector. its packed with great features. durability however is lacking especially if children are using it. portability is amazing

Mike Hillis Wrote:
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> Nox. I like that Brian. You could even add the n
> umber....The Nox 6, or the Nox 8.
>
> HH
> Mike

Got tired of typing Equinox so much - lol

Cal_cobra Wrote:
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> EMField Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > It's certainly going to provide a serious challe
> > nge to the Impact, and ATM! It clearly pro
> vides
> > more diverse abilities than the others, at a
> simil
> > ar price. I'm sure it will become very popular
> a
> > mong the beach hunting folks. Providing it perf
> or
> > ms as expected in that domain.


> >
> > I can't help but think of this machine as a mode
> > rnized/simplified/submersible V3i. That's not a
> b
> > ad thing at all!
> >
>
> Not sure that I'd agree that it provides more dive
> rse abilities then the Impact. It has the ability
> to do simultaneous multi-frequencies, and the Nox
> 800 has the 40kHz prospecting mode, which are bot
> h great features, but aside from that the Impact a
> ctually has a lot more modes (12 search modes vs 4
> for example) and AFAIK thus far it's more tweakabl
> e.
>
> Does the Nox offer adjustable iron audio and adjus
> table tone break? Those are pretty big features f
> or me, hunting iron infested sites with adjustable
> iron audio is a game changer IMHO.
>
> Once I see some positive reports on the Nox to val
> idate it's performance, I'll be ordering one. It
> would be awesome to have the "perfect" an all in o
> ne machine, did ML finally make it???
>
> I'd really like to see the "expert" menu on the No
> x, and I'm very curious if they still have a noise
> cancel function like the Explorer series. This ab
> ility to pick the cleanest frequencies to use is a
> huge asset as well as we generally have no idea wh
> at EMI is present, unless it's audible. I heard t
> he Scottish ML guy mention the noise cancel, but h
> e made an odd comment, like "this doesn't have it
> because it's a beta build" or something to that af
> fect.

Hey Cal_cobra,

My reference to it's "more diverse abilities" deal with it also having simultaneous mult-freq ability, not available on the Impact. Multiple switchable single frequencies, plus simultaneous multi-freq. (more usable in saltwater), which the ATM doesn't have. All at a similar price point. I certainly make no claim that it is better in any parameter they share. That is pretty much the crux of my post. At this point we really don't know what the true abilities, and certainly none of it's faults/weaknesses are? No faults/weaknesses are ever mentioned in promotional rollouts. Those come once the machine is in the hands of the general public. That's when it's true value will be known.

I absolutely like it's feature set and possiblities! Of my current machines, I have a 7.8Khz, a 13Khz, a 48Khz, and the FBS2 CTX. The single frequency realm is pretty well covered, and the multi also. I guess I have the luxury of not feeling pressed in any way to commit to it. To have it all in one good performing machine would be great.

I do hope that it turns out to be a good performer! Time will tell.

goodmore Wrote:
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> One can argue about the strengths and weaknesses o
> f this new detector until it is released. The rea
> l reason to get excited is that finally after twen
> ty some odd years going back to the very first Sov
> ereign a manufacturer finally listened to salt bea
> ch hunters. Now whether this detector performs wi
> th the depth and stability we need is all speculat
> ion, but the excitement and demand for the featur
> es on this detector are real.

Totally Agree! It appears to be just what water hunters have been looking for! There does indeed seem to be plent of excitement, my first couple sentences acknowledged that.

As to arguing about it's strengths and weaknesses, all any of us can do is render opinions/thoughts on that, hopefully not argue. No one really knows at this point what they are. Much to be learned! Some people are very passionate about the hobby and equipment, nothing wrong with that. That's the great thing about these forums, as long as it's kept civil. Since it's enveiling, reportedly months before it's actual release, you can bet there wiil be plenty of talk about it, and opinions given. Wait till the inevitable stream of videos appear. Lots more opinions will appear also.

EMField Wrote:
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> I hear what you're saying BP.
>
> I guess what I was referring to when I said "break
> through technology" I meant, is it demonstrably be
> tter in any specific detecting realm?

Well that really remains to be seen. The Nox is at a release stage. I am sure there will be more vids with further explanation on the tech.

Is it simp
> ly new technology as in, it performs the task diff
> erently, with similar results, or does it give cle
> ar, unequivical, unequalled, MUCH BETTER results i
> n any one, or more detecting parameters?

Too early to tell!

Someth
> ing like providing huge depth increases, absolute
> iron unmasking, etc., clear "breakthrough technol
> ogy" that is totally unmatched by others. Not jus
> t the features in other detectors in which it is "
> KINDA" better that we have come to know over the y
> ears. If you get my point?

I do but this is like looking at a cake and trying to describe what it tastes like without tasting it.

>
> Different "methodology" doesn't always translate i
> nto better/best end results.

True, but it could.

I have seen no impir
> ical evidence that claims to provide that game cha
> nging result in any detecting parameter.

The term "Game changing" is very subjective term. The fact that it is a multi-freq and under $1000 vs the V3i could mean that it is a game changer in that respect.

I assume
> , if there was one, it would be put out there in t
> he boldest of print, and demonstrated, to show suc
> h a "breakthrough".

This won't be done anytime soon. This release, IMO, was like a wake-up call(or is a wake-up call) to other manufacturers from Minelab. They want to provoke the others to see what is going to happen. From everything I've read and been told, Minelab is several steps above with their tech vs other manufacturers. IMO, they are sitting on some good stuff waiting for the right time. They time their releases with great precision. Many have been saying, and I agree, that the Nox was designed to take market share from Deus, Impact, MX sport, and the AT max.

I, and every other hobbyist w
> ould love to see that happen, but, I haven't seen
> it in this machine as of yet. Emphasis would sure
> ly be given to such a game changer on rollout, if
> it existed.

In the near future we should see more info. Time will tell.

Have you noticed that there was not a single video where "Nox" demonstrates its work in the ground?
.. There is not a single video in its depth, nor is there any video for identifying the target.
Also, no one conducted the Nail Board test ...

Couple things.
If no one buys the Nox and reports on it, what will we really ever know?

Second, bottom line, really about valued performance and versatility for the $$ spent.

Sod-buster Wrote:
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> Couple things.
> If no one buys the Nox and reports on it, what wil
> l we really ever know?
>
> Second, bottom line, really about valued performan
> ce and versatility for the $$ spent.

Valid point. To the best of my knowledge of new releases over the yrs., there's never a lack of sufficient sales, to provide qualified user's feedback. From that point, you have to weed out the overly exuberant or unfairly pessimistic reviews, and go with the known objective users, who give a straight shooter opinion of good and bad. With every machine made there will be both good and bad feedback, that perfect machine hasn't been made yet. The Equinox could be that one, I'm open minded at this point.

IMO, given the very appealing feature set, it should provide a VERY good value/performance ratio, IF it's performance turns out good. It's gotta be a winner for water folks right out of the gate!

To the best of my knowledge, the issues with the MX Sport, both hardware and software were discovered after release to purchasers. Not by testers, promoters, or company personel. The result was a whole bunch of detectors being sent back, some several times. To Whites credit, they addressed things and most likely lost a ton of money and customer confidence in the process, before getting it back on track.
Same with the CTX water issue. In that case, Minelab chose to ignore the issue for four yrs., only modifying the gasket setup on it's second generation model. That one didn't cost them money, other than repairs, because they basically didn't address the problem proactively to modify it during that time. It did cost them a lot in ill will, and customer confidence.
Garrett ATP, makro coil ears etc. etc....

Being the first kid on the block to own a new toy, has definite risks. Certainly not to say, no one should be an early purchaser by any means! That's always a matter of personal choice. Being one of the first, could mean getting in on the ground floor with a fantastic machine. Or disappointed that it had issues unknown at time of purchase. As to whether anyone is first in line, or chooses to sit back and see how it shakes out is merely a personal choice, none right, or wrong. If you can look back and say "no regrets", it's all good.

Mike Hillis Wrote:
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> Nox. I like that Brian. You could even add the n
> umber....The Nox 6, or the Nox 8.
>
> HH
> Mike

and the X-Terra becomes the X-Tinct, lol

I have never known Minelab to over-hype any of their gear and they seem to be functioning exceptionally well, so given that, I would not hesitate to get one as soon as they are released -

I certainly haven't filled my shorts over the EQ, but I am not going to hang around for months watching everyone else enjoy the crap out of it either -

[www.earthscan.co.nz]

rustic charm Wrote:
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> I have never known Minelab to over-hype any of the
> ir gear and they seem to be functioning exceptiona
> lly well, so given that, I would not hesitate to g
> et one as soon as they are released -
>
> I certainly haven't filled my shorts over the EQ,
> but I am not going to hang around for months watch
> ing everyone else enjoy the crap out of it either
> -

Aside from the GoFind I would agree. Granted to the GoFind was targeted at kids, but it did have some challenges, which are all corrected with the GoFind refresh coming.

Yep why let everyone else have all the fun, fat kids like cake and that's all there is to it

This looks like the answer to a wading Xcal. That takes it further.... its faster, we hope as deep, and has some real potential as a micro gold dry sand machine.... has TID, simple and lighter...most of what us salt water guys have asked for. Not ment to out shine the CTX off the beach..... but capable. Now will it perform?

Yes I agree with dewcon. Finally I think a replacement for the X-caliber. I had a few over the years but just too heavy in the water and slow to retune. Also not hot enough for the small gold. This new detector appears to solve these issues and lets just hope that it will be every bit as deep as the X-cal is and is a true multi-frequency detector. Now you throw in the x-tra coils that will be available for it; the screen and the ID system it will have is truly a bonus for us non traditionalist water hunters that hunt around old fur trade posts that were at one time on the water. As these water sites can be littered with square nails ,tin and modern day junk. This detector looks to be a hybrid between the X-cal and the Exterra 705. The price point looks to be just south of an X-caliber. I will be watching this one closely.

vfp7 Wrote:
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> Have you noticed that there was not a single video
> where "Nox" demonstrates its work in the ground?
> .. There is not a single video in its depth, nor i
> s there any video for identifying the target.
> Also, no one conducted the Nail Board test ...

Bingo. Good observation. I guess people are just assuming it will at *least* rival the famed Explorer line, CTX, etc...

Also: Wake me up when it will have ability for in-line probe.

You folks crack me up.

You probably won't see these tests either.
Why??

A person told me a few days ago maybe the reason why. Not a Minelab employee either or a person connected to Equinox any way whatsoever. He has it seems associated with some of the Minelab engineers in the past,,and maybe still the present.

Have faith is all I can say.

Besides if some here saw one test,,what then?
Likely they would want to see another,,and another, and another.

AKA was supposed to introduce their Whiz Bang Intronik the day after the OX unveiling. I haven't heard a thing about that one.

possum mo Wrote:
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> AKA was supposed to introduce their Whiz Bang Int
> ronik the day after the OX unveiling. I haven't h
> eard a thing about that one.


Maybe AKA couldn't find a brave soul to drop in to Detectival site by air..

possum mo Wrote:
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> AKA was supposed to introduce their Whiz Bang Int
> ronik the day after the OX unveiling. I haven't h
> eard a thing about that one.


The employee AKA who was supposed to hold presentations, his wife got sick - doctors diagnosed oncology.
They canceled all activities, including ours.
/ I apologize for my English, I do not know how to write about such things correctly /