THE LONG AWAITED CZ3D

bado1 Wrote:
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> doc holiday Wrote:
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> > > > Modern designs don’t have the tens of trimme
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> > > > t an old design like the CZ has. Instead of
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> > > > g circuits, software does the demodulation a
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> > > > r feedback. Nothing to calibrate.
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> > > Correct.
> > > The "unwashed" were not aware of that, apparen
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> > > Dean
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> > Those "at home update/calibrations" were done by
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> > OU or some expert who wrote the software so that
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> > ou could do the update on line-----and you do un
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> > rstand that these updates were not free---you pa
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> Yep. Perhaps I should have said,"at no additional
> cost". What a bargain!
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> Dean

Good that you realize that somebody somewhere paid for the "free" update---Occasionally Cortex may have an opening on her economic advisory team.

calabash digger Wrote:
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> One thing you fail to realize is I know the Deus a
> nd Equinox. A F75 OR T2 User will have a bad day a
> round me in iron...or in open ground on super deep
> relics. BTW my mentor was has been at 30 yrs threw
> his T2 down after I blew his doors off numerous ti
> mes swinging the Deus and that was with the LF coi
> l. Now the HF coils are out and it is even better.
> ...He swings a Deus now. The F75 is another one of
> those tired detector models that needs redoing.

Would you be this so self righteous without the Deus. And how can you include te Equinox in that statement when you've only used it for such a short time.

doc holiday Wrote:
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> > > > > Modern designs don’t have the tens of trim
> me
> > rs
> > > t
> > > > ha
> > > > > t an old design like the CZ has. Instead
> of
> > a
> > > na
> > > > lo
> > > > > g circuits, software does the demodulation
> a
> > nd
> > > u
> > > > se
> > > > > r feedback. Nothing to calibrate.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Correct.
> > > > The "unwashed" were not aware of that, appar
> en
> > tl
> > > y.
> > > >
> > > > Dean
> > >
> > > Those "at home update/calibrations" were done
> by
> > Y
> > > OU or some expert who wrote the software so th
> at
> > y
> > > ou could do the update on line-----and you do
> un
> > de
> > > rstand that these updates were not free---you
> pa
> > id
> > > for them up front.
> >
> > Yep. Perhaps I should have said,"at no additiona
> l
> > cost". What a bargain!
> >
> > Dean
>
> Good that you realize that somebody somewhere paid
> for the "free" update---Occasionally Cortex may ha
> ve an opening on her economic advisory team.


Ha! Jeez, Doc, don't get me started on AOC!

Dean



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/02/2019 12:57AM by bado1.

I got hundreds of hours on the Equinox because I got one of the first ones to come out. You doubt me knowing the Equinox man where have you been? I mean have you not seen the finds I have made with it..I know that machine very well...Oh I forgot some of you think it takes 10 yrs to learn a detector model and that might be true with the old dinosaurs some of you use....



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/02/2019 03:19AM by calabash digger.

The gift that keeps on giving........

I have a neighbor who was a scientist at Kodak for 40 years - we call him Kodak Bob. His knowledge of the chemistry of film is unparalleled - PhD and all. Of course - today that’s worth nothing in the marketplace - he retired with a nice pension 30 years ago.

The other thing he is a brilliant photographer with a fine assortment of all the latest digital gear from the top manufacturers (all Japanese, of course).

I had lunch with him the other day and showed him a pic I am especially proud of, taken with a “point and shoot level camera. I told him that I have no claim to be a great photographer, just that I have been serious bout it since I was 8 years old (that’s 64 years ago). He was suitably unimpressed with my credentials, but admireded the pic. His comment “f8 and be there”..

For the non photographers in the forum, he meant - there is sometimes a great picture just sitting there - if you are there - and don’t screw it up - regardless of minor issues with your equipment - it’s yours.

Congratulations to every hunter who has made great finds and pardon me if I respond “f8 and be there”

Rick Kempf
Gold Canyon AZ- where there is no gold

muddydogz Wrote:
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> The gift that keeps on giving........


yeah! this guy is a real "gift" alright!
wonder boy with his toy! f**k everybody else!
yay for him!

(h.h.!)
j.t.

jmaryt Wrote:
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> muddydogz Wrote:
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> > The gift that keeps on giving........
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> yeah! this guy is a real "gift" alright!
> wonder boy with his toy! f**k everybody else!
> yay for him!
>
> (h.h.!)
> j.t.


Did he say something that isn't true?

Calibration: To bring an instrument to a known standard.

NASA Tom calibrated his instruments by adjusting knobs,ports,etc.MineLab calibrated the "Mighty Knox"(a Tnss gush) by utilizing software.

When I mentioned calibrating the"Mighty Knox" the Washer Women launched--gonna give Ole Doc a washin' he won't never fergit-FAIL--they misunderstood that calibrating doesn't always require a hammer and wrench."Poor souls, they were just too high strung".

"There,now we can be friends again."><

I find it's really unfair to compare a new detector model against a 20 year old machine. I have owned a CZ3D and it was a good machine for its time. However, it cannot begin to compare to new technology. I retired from the USAf as an aircraft maintainer. The F16 is a great fighter and has it's place in the arsenal. However, I finished my career working on the F22 Raptor, stealth fighter. Both aircraft are exceptional at what they do. But, they can never be compared because one is 30 years older than the other. If a CZ3D works for you then great. I see the tests for what they are. Calabash is showing the results of both machines.

I have no dog in the fight....I enjoy all comparison videos and make my own judgements.

Just my thoughts........

Mark

Doc,
You made my point. Thank you. I think it was you who misunderstood, though, as you asked me if I had had my Nox "calibrated" by a professional. Clearly, you did not understand that digital machines, updated via the Internet, do not need to be "calibrated" by sending it to somebody to perform that service. Thankfully, those days are gone.

Friends again

Dean

Threads like this show the need for high fiber diets...

Can't we all just get along?

Past(or)Tom
Using a Legend, a Deus 2, an Equinox 800, a Tarsacci MDT 8000, & a few others...
with my beloved, fading Corgi, Sadie

bado1 Wrote:
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> Doc,
> You made my point. Thank you. I think it was you w
> ho misunderstood, though, as you asked me if I had
> had my Nox "calibrated" by a professional. Clearly
> , you did not understand that digital machines, up
> dated via the Internet, do not need to be "calibra
> ted" by sending it to somebody to perform that ser
> vice. Thankfully, those days are gone.
>
> Friends again
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> Dean

Sorry,BUT I asked you if your Nox would not benefit from a calibration by an expert---never said or asked about you "sending" it anywhere and apparently the EXPERTS at ML determined that not just your but All Noxes needed a calibration to their new software.The error occurred,not from my not understanding that digital machines could be updated via the internet,but from your misreading of my post. Makro has been updating via the internet Before the nox was born.

There,now we can be friends again.

The Fisher CZ......I have got 26 good years from mine. I know what it’s limitations are and I accept it. Calabash brings a lot to the table......information....good or bad , it helps to make decisions on future purchases that I can make. I like ole calabashes info better than the info that was provided for the last 40 years of detecting by publication/ print media where you got detector reviews that were always great (no detector had a single weakness...... ever)!!! New innovation comes to everything,and weather we accept or reject it, .... well that’s your call. The greatest success in detecting comes from getting permission to hunt a location, then knowing how to use the detector (adjust to different soil type etc. etc.). Calabash isn’t hurting this hobby, he just showing possibilities. His enthusiasm for performance from any given detector is welcome!! HH Tony

Tony-Ok Wrote:
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> The Fisher CZ......I have got 26 good years from m
> ine. I know what it’s limitations are and I accept
> it. Calabash brings a lot to the table......inform
> ation....good or bad , it helps to make decisions
> on future purchases that I can make. I like ole ca
> labashes info better than the info that was provid
> ed for the last 40 years of detecting by publicati
> on/ print media where you got detector reviews tha
> t were always great (no detector had a single weak
> ness...... ever)!!! New innovation comes to every
> thing,and weather we accept or reject it, .... wel
> l that’s your call. The greatest success in detect
> ing comes from getting permission to hunt a locati
> on, then knowing how to use the detector (adjust t
> o different soil type etc. etc.). Calabash isn’t h
> urting this hobby, he just showing possibilities.
> His enthusiasm for performance from any given dete
> ctor is welcome!! HH Tony

right on Tony.

Pasttom Wrote:
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> Threads like this show the need for high fiber die
> ts...
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> Can't we all just get along?


Respectful discourse is where true learning comes from. If we all, "just got along"... we would never get anywhere.


Tony is right on the money!



Dean

I eat Special K every day.

Oatmeal and eggs for Me.

calabash digger Wrote:
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> I got hundreds of hours on the Equinox because I
> got one of the first ones to come out. You doubt
> me knowing the Equinox man where have you been? I
> mean have you not seen the finds I have made with
> it..I know that machine very well...Oh I forgot s
> ome of you think it takes 10 yrs to learn a detect
> or model and that might be true with the old dinos
> aurs some of you use....


Remember man these detectors are just a piece of plastic. Sound familiar.

I was not offended about the plastic....I was though when he started telling me what my skill set was with the unit..