sierra super trac

Keith Southern Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> It has to be all metal disc accept...tones work
> through disc not a TRUE ALL METAL mode...
>
> Whites is saying its all metal motion and in
> theroy it is bu its channeled all metal..
>
> A true all metal mode can not I.d. it does no
> phase comparison.
>
> And yes if you balance to iron it will become
> lifeless.
>
> Thanks for the info Alan..
>
> Keith


keith! this sounds likely as i always thought true all-matal could not
discriminate with tones,or visual id.maybe whitey developed a 'special" circuit with
jimmy's field experience input? i wouldn't bet ''against" whitey's engineering crew!
they got the money,and the moxie to git 'er done!..just sayin'

(h.h.!)
j.t.

Steve(MS) Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> ron_c, I think that is a true all-metal with a
> threshold circuit that resets in a given time. (
> IDX, foward trigger)
>
> I have to agree with the sentiments that the
> manufacturers have used the terminology
> "all-metal" to mean almost anything.
>
> But this new detector more than likely is a disc
> mode set to zero with tones.
>
> We used to call true all-metal "static mode" since
> that mode is non-filtered...and as Steve H.
> pointed out, will have circuit drift
> and static mode doesn't care what metal it detects
> or if there is motion on the coil or not.
>
> Threshold reset was added to deal with drift for
> "static mode" on many model detectors with "static
> mode"....but that is different from a disc. mode
> that requires ever so slight motion.
>
> So the big questions for this new detector is did
> they tweak the disc mode to make it faster than
> the usual MXT/M6 response/recovery time
> or is this a scaled down M6?
> ...And does it get better depth than the MXT/M6?
>
> Looks like one (or some) of us will have to try
> one out to see for sure...perhaps someone already
> with a MXT/M6 would make for better testing.


IF what you state IS true,i don't believe whitey will admit to it,
as they may consider the info "proprietary"..just sayin'

(h.h.!)
j.t.

Pac man Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> godigit1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am hoping it has a faster recovery speed
> since
> > it is not using a conventional desc circuit. It
> > might have a separation advantage over the Mxt.
> I
> > hunt jewelry primarially with the G2 and listen
> to
> > all the iron anyway and try to work between it.
> If
> > its anywhere as fast as the G2 with the
> addition
> > of the 7 tones it just might be a killer
> jewelry
> > hunter for the park and beaches. Im going to
> look
> > at one this week and test it with Sweet Caroline
> a
> > very nice whites dealer who is also very apt
> with
> > a MXT. I'm hoping she will have the time to do
> > some testing. I want to hear the tonal quality
> of
> > the all metal Id between the MXT and SST.
> >
> > All though I think I all ready talked my self
> into
> > it as I sit here shaking my head. LOL
> >
> > HH
>
> Let us know your thoughts after you try it out.
> thanks


yes! very curious about the tonal qualities between the two,as to
'"clarity" and perhaps,"perceived" air test depth with same coils,or perhaps,even
a coin garden test as well!

(h.h.!)
j.t.

Keith Southern Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Seem's like a nice machine for sure ...But its not
> running in all metal mode.It's running in an all
> metal accept disc mode....
>
> The tones are locked also.....
>
> Not sure why for intended purpose of DIG IT ALL it
> is not variable tone break in an expaned iron
> range..
>
> I dont like machines deciding where to break tones
> when I am looking for RELICS/ARTIFACT'S..
>
> Seems more like an M6 with disc control locked at
> zero...
>
> Keith


this exactly what i believe too! ..keith!

(h.h.!)
j.t.