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Super Hot Mineralized iron infested gold detecting soil
January 08, 2014 02:46PM
This video will give some of you a clear understanding the issues we encounter when
Gold prospecting.

This is a video of the atx in Aus. A magnet is used to pick up
The ironstones from the ground.

[m.youtube.com]

Joe from Aus
CZ3D, G2, Garrett Sea Hunter M2
Re: Super Hot Mineralized iron infested gold detecting soil
January 09, 2014 12:34AM
The test video is interesting.

First hand experience is so much more.





The consensus is.....if you can detect the small ones in actual field search, you are most likely doing something correct.

ivanll
Re: Super Hot Mineralized iron infested gold detecting soil
January 09, 2014 01:33AM
Nice link Joe!!

Nice Gold Ivan!

Yes thats some nasty dirt for sure...!!

I do pitty yall down that way even trying to relic hunt or coin let alone gold hunt... the dirt just shuts the machines down...

Pulse is the way to go down you way for sure for gold...and as time moves on maybe a disc circuit P.I. will help in the relic and coin finds....you know that goodies are just inches under your feet but so hard to get with a VLF...

I have watched all the NQExplorers video's..

and I must say what gets me the most is just feel good attitude the guy exudes....I picture all the Aussie people like that...real salt of the earth type..friendly...passionate.. and have a good time!
Re: Super Hot Mineralized iron infested gold detecting soil
January 09, 2014 02:22AM
Thanks Keith.

Ivan I am not a fan of the TDI. I did test it in Maryborough in 2013 and for me it does not have a constant steady humming threshold I like.

I gave the guys feedback from where it was rented and was told there could be interference with thunder but none was around.

I then tested the 4500 and was blown away how smooth it was but in my opinion a bit too expensive.

I then purchased the new VLF targetted at gold prospecting last year and my presumption after reading about it and reading more about it in the instruction books and watching the DVD it was more primed for

iron stone detecting ground. Found the unit noisy and was going off on ironstone. Tested it for 3 hours gave up coursed a little and sold it off on ebay. I did throw a challenge for

someone to prove me wrong that I had no idea what I was doing and if a video can be put up on youtube to show this machine in action like a spot in the above video.

Then I got into a debate in another aussie forum (and realised yesterday my account was deleted and posts removed) how people were being led to believe there were 2 versions

of this machine and had it clarified by the manufacturer only one was made. Makes you wonder why things have happened in the past 8 or so months.

For me I don't care what machine I use as long as it works and have no real preference over one manufacturer to another.

This was the same spot I tested the Tesoro Dingo with and found gold with in the same spot which worked nicely 15 years earlier. I regret selling this detector.

It was a good detector for small nugget shooting with the small coil and gave a loud distinctive zap zap on tiny nuggets.

I have now ordered a Teknetics G2 and should arrive soon and I am confident this detector after reading about it and with the awesome feedback by members in Tom's

forum it should work fine in the same spot mentioned above. In fact I think the G2 is going to be an awesome coin machine as well since most coins I have found including pennies have only been buried about 6" or 7".

What really really annoys me though is that it takes a competitor to come up with a great product alternative then another is made by a competitor that's been a leader in the market. It's not a good look

Ivan does the ATX run deep in the salt water compared to the sea hunter?

Joe from Aus
CZ3D, G2, Garrett Sea Hunter M2
Re: Super Hot Mineralized iron infested gold detecting soil
January 10, 2014 03:58AM
bump
Re: Super Hot Mineralized iron infested gold detecting soil
January 12, 2014 04:00AM
Some videos leave too much too speculation. In this one I would like to have seen the ground tested before hand. Ground balance? And in every video I have seen so far of the ATX and small gold it looks like the coil is swept unevenly they are diving at the ground to get it to hit. Could that not alone trigure a signal?
Re: Super Hot Mineralized iron infested gold detecting soil
January 12, 2014 02:17PM
I found the G@/Gold Bug Pro to run OK in Western Australia but was surprised I could get my Gold Bug 2 to do even better. More ground adjustments to work with. The ground balance was much touchier on the G2/GBP. But it worked fine, be interesting to hear how it does for you Joe.

Heading out myself with the ATX to see if it can find me some more gold. I do much prefer the smooth ATX threshold over the TDI threshold.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/12/2014 02:18PM by Steve Herschbach.
Re: Super Hot Mineralized iron infested gold detecting soil
January 12, 2014 03:06PM
wolfau Wrote:
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> This video will give some of you a clear
> understanding the issues we encounter when
> Gold prospecting.
>
> This is a video of the atx in Aus. A magnet is
> used to pick up
> The ironstones from the ground.
>
> [m.youtube.com]


I have several locations that look just like what was presented in the video. Iron makeup pebbles, dirt and very little if any organic vegetation. The soil is red in color and easily attract to a magnet. But all the VLF machines ,+15 different machines, some of the best (CTX 3030, Fisher F75 LTD etc.) VLF in the market but all are very poor performers. In fact at some places a 3-4" dime will be very lucky regardless of the VLF machine we use.
Re: Super Hot Mineralized iron infested gold detecting soil
January 12, 2014 10:07PM
markg Wrote:
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> wolfau Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This video will give some of you a clear
> > understanding the issues we encounter when
> > Gold prospecting.
> >
> > This is a video of the atx in Aus. A magnet is
> > used to pick up
> > The ironstones from the ground.
> >
> > [m.youtube.com]
>
>
> I have several locations that look just like what
> was presented in the video. Iron makeup pebbles,
> dirt and very little if any organic vegetation.
> The soil is red in color and easily attract to a
> magnet. But all the VLF machines ,+15 different
> machines, some of the best (CTX 3030, Fisher F75
> LTD etc.) VLF in the market but all are very poor
> performers. In fact at some places a 3-4" dime
> will be very lucky regardless of the VLF machine
> we use.

correct. This is why Minelab developed the sd, gp and gpx series
of gold detectors which started back in the 90's due to the harsh detecting grounds
in around Australia. These machines have found thousands of ounces of
Gold the vlfs could not due to different technoligies.

Until recently Minelab had the opposition rattled in reference to competitors
Being able to manufacturer a competing product on small deep gold.

Its my view building such a detector requires outside thinking by an
Experienced electronics engineer with no detector building requirement
Required. Just take a look with whats coming out of Europe.

I congratulate Garrett for finally putting together a great team that developed
The ATX. These guys knew what we all wanted and craved. That was a
Detector that excels in small gold in high minerslised soils.

Get hold of a 2nd hand gpx 4000 make sure its a genuine minelab
Or the atx and your good to go. I was shocked how quiet a 4000
Was in hot ground it was like coin shooting.

In many places shallow leads the gold is only upto 8" deep.

Occosionally as the lead gets deeper if your in the right area
The gold is deeper. Then again the ground in WA is different
From Vic from a geology perspective.
Re: Super Hot Mineralized iron infested gold detecting soil
January 12, 2014 10:15PM
godigit1 Wrote:
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> Some videos leave too much too speculation. In
> this one I would like to have seen the ground
> tested before hand. Ground balance? And in every
> video I have seen so far of the ATX and small gold
> it looks like the coil is swept unevenly they are
> diving at the ground to get it to hit. Could that
> not alone trigure a signal?


What time frame of this video are you seeing the coil
Being dived at the target?

Take a look at 5.40 min time frame just normal left to
Right motion.