off topic- CONSTITUTION FREE ZONES ?

Is it a question of Security vs. Constitution (4th ammendment) or are we being bullied by the powers that be ?


[www.aclu.org]

ACLU fact sheet from October 22, 2008 ... about five+ years old.

true.....however, Judge reaffirms 'Constitution-free' zones around border......

[video.foxnews.com]


I do not remember hearing this even back then......?

Hey, I take it personally when the value of a thing is questioned because it is old.
Actually, it is a shame it ever was funny, but then people still laugh at me so.
The world is falling apart such that it is almost enough to make one take the Bible seriously, seriously!

Past(or)Tom
Using a Legend, a Deus 2, an Equinox 800, a Tarsacci MDT 8000, & a few others...
with my beloved, fading Corgi, Sadie

Gubmint creep at it's finest/worst!!!
The first laws giving these types of powers (for coastal areas)were granted in 1789 no less , not for security but to stem the flow of goods into the country without paying import duties which fueled the early government. Essentially , exclusive Legislation of the "not exceeding ten squares miles" seat of government was expanded in the late 70's to encompass pretty much where ever they want when you include the military bases and support establishments around the country. You can be pulled over for sobriety checks without probable cause under the smae guise simply because the roads are built with some Federal money. Same for helmets and seatbelts--drivers licenses as well if you want to get technical. LEOs know it but they play along because it eventually pays their bills with paychecks.
We haven't been under Constitutional Law for 100 years and it's only get worse--like cancer..........................

If a thief stole from you, everything you had in one-fell swoop, you would
justifiably be madder than he**, But if he stole from you incrementally , slowly,
stealthily, fractions at a time, you may not notice until well into the game.

The turtle wins the race, and you may not even know he was trying.


[www.nolanchart.com]

sound familiar ?

Tri,Ive been pissed for years.

“Under Socialism, you would not be allowed to be poor.
You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and
employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered
that you had not the character and industry enough to be worth
all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly
manner; but whilst you were permitted to live, you would have
to live well.”


George Bernard Shaw (Fabian Socialist)