TV show Diggers

You guys that are talking bad about these guys and show don't have a clue of what you are talking about. When the show and guys came to California, our club president, Barbara was asked by the show to help find locations and escort the guys. The guys are work on very strict guidelines and never even get to keep the finds. They were very courteous and pleasant to be around. Granted a lot of the actions are to make the show entertaining for metal detectorists as well as the general public to enjoy.

Impeach Barbara

jimmyzr1 Wrote:
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> You guys that are talking bad about these guys and
> show don't have a clue of what you are talking
> about. When the show and guys came to California,
> our club president, Barbara was asked by the show
> to help find locations and escort the guys. The
> guys are work on very strict guidelines and never
> even get to keep the finds. They were very
> courteous and pleasant to be around. Granted a lot
> of the actions are to make the show entertaining
> for metal detectorists as well as the general
> public to enjoy.

I'm sorry, I don't care if the Pope invited them or showed them around. The hoopla they display--seemingly on most finds. They don't act very regimented or disciplined in my book. And this is my story and I'm sticking to it. My wife actually had the program on today..Here's what she said, "Them fellows had better get a roll of toilet and take a pair of clean drawers with them when they treasure hunt".



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It is not the guys that are really bad it's the show that sucks but hey if they filmed all my hunts and edited them the way I do you would fall asleep. They swing get a great tone and dig they don't even take the time to understand the tone or we don't even hear iron at least on the first show I didn't but who cares it is nothing like what I go through to find relics...too bad my world is so hard right???

LowBoy

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shoveler Wrote:
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> Impeach Barbara


Good one, shoveler, thanks for the chuckle!



You know, I don't doubt that they are pleasant fellows. And that they have been a positive for Garrett's bottom line.

I am kind of surprised to see how many enjoy the show. I'd expect that on the Garrett forums, but not here.

If you put a gun to my head and forced me to say something positive, I'd say that somewhere around the fourth season they finally found they could spare a couple seconds at the end of the shows to say things like "if you detect, show respect". I guess that's not too positive, but that's the best I can do.

The producers of the show don't give a rats rear end about how the show makes the hobby look, but realistically why would anyone expect them to? They are "reality" TV producers following the tried and true reality formula - wacky antics, artificially manufactured competition, dramatic teasers at the breaks, etc. When the milk from this cash cow finally dries up, they'll move on and put the formula to work with something else.

BTW, forum members Keith Southern and Kenny House make videos that are actually worth watching. But don't expect to see either of them jumping around like buffoons...



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My dvr recorded these new episodes. I was just thinking man I'd love to go to these spots behind these guys with my Etrac or xp deus or my cz3d and just see what they left behind. Lol

Hey Lowboy, what you got against beer?

Pleasant Garden, NC
AT Max, Nokta Impact, MX Sport, Nokta FORS Relic, GPX 4800, Infinium, Racer, Deus, F75SE, Nautilus DMC II (order of acquisition, last to first)

Does an archeologist argue with a plow? A bureaucrat with a bulldozer?

Is lowboy against beer? Now that's anti American. ...lol but please don't be anti deus, because I just picked one up.

Beer is for after the hunt not during or before, at least that is how I think it should be and no smoking that is just not right to be hunting with nature stinking it up with smoke...chew it if you have to...my high is a good breakfast and good coffee and then go digging and hope for relics

LowBoy

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jimmyzr1 Wrote:
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> You guys that are talking bad about these guys and
> show don't have a clue of what you are talking
> about. When the show and guys came to California,
> our club president, Barbara was asked by the show
> to help find locations and escort the guys. The
> guys are work on very strict guidelines and never
> even get to keep the finds. They were very
> courteous and pleasant to be around. Granted a lot
> of the actions are to make the show entertaining
> for metal detectorists as well as the general
> public to enjoy.

You make good points and others have also said that they wondered about the guys off camera personalities and detecting habits, on this forum and other forum discussions. However every week that the show is on these guys are presented as-is with no background information showing their off screen work. They surely know this by now and can either continue to let themselves be presented publicly as as the producers have chosen or try to modify the show format or quit. But that hasn't happened. The guys are pretty much doing the same thing as the first year it was on TV. You can argue they need the paychecks but I would argue they lose some integrity in the process. If they choose to take the check then they should be willing to accept criticisms on the forums. That includes the sponsor.

I've seen several episodes and I wonder if I'm alone in thinking, given the quality and exclusivity of the sites they are allowed to hunt; their finds as a whole are not all that impressive?

Harold,ILL. Wrote:
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> I think anything that puts us people who hunt
> ''Public Property'' on the radar is Bad News with
> a capital B. To many Newbee's to many bad diggin'
> techniques with shovels. I also think it will hurt
> people who hunt others property as they see this
> and think why should I let this guy hunt my
> Property when I can buy a Detector and do it
> myself. JMHO.

keeping the hobby limited to public exposure is,in my view,
the proper course of action. all MOST people identify with is the
'digging" aspect of it,and as such,consider it to be a nuisance activity
that cause damage to the environment,however for every person that thinks this way,
there are countless thousands,upon thousands who believe us to be inconsequential,
and insignificant with the end resultant of us being totally "ignored"i figure i don't care
"two s**ts" WHAT they believe to be true as long as i am not bothered,and "ignored"
"so to speak" when i do my thing!..i'm just sayin'

(h.h.!)
j.t.

shoveler Wrote:
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> Impeach Barbara


+1

(h.h.!)
j.t.

Lawrenzo Wrote:
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> It is not the guys that are really bad it's the
> show that sucks but hey if they filmed all my
> hunts and edited them the way I do you would fall
> asleep. They swing get a great tone and dig they
> don't even take the time to understand the tone or
> we don't even hear iron at least on the first show
> I didn't but who cares it is nothing like what I
> go through to find relics...too bad my world is so
> hard right???


reality bites!

(h.h.!)
j.t.

Frank in NH Wrote:
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> I don't think these shows are doing our hobby any
> good!


they give people the 'WRONG' impression,
all they notice is the digging part,and develop attitudes
that get ya 'tossed" from any,and all sites.who the f**k needs this?
after 34 years in the hobby,don't need the additional hassle!
i'm just sayin'

(h.h.!)
j.t.

Detectorist Wrote:
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> Personally, we need fewer, not more, treasure
> hunters.


this is correct! the less places "tore" up the better.

(h.h.!)
j.t.

Ferrous Bueller Wrote:
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> I've seen several episodes and I wonder if I'm
> alone in thinking, given the quality and
> exclusivity of the sites they are allowed to hunt;
> their finds as a whole are not all that
> impressive?


Do you really think the sites they dig have not been detected before? I expect they have been detected several times before the Diggers got to them. And some sites have probably even had archeological studies performed already.
And haven't we all had sites we worked where we expected far more than what we found? I don't judge their digs to be impressed or not. I just like to see what they find since I'm certainly not going to get the chance to dig behind them.

Pleasant Garden, NC
AT Max, Nokta Impact, MX Sport, Nokta FORS Relic, GPX 4800, Infinium, Racer, Deus, F75SE, Nautilus DMC II (order of acquisition, last to first)

Does an archeologist argue with a plow? A bureaucrat with a bulldozer?

I too like to see what they find. It did affect getting permission when they first came on. The price they put on things are what has been the problem.

There is a new show coming out that my friend is in..it maybe like diggers I don't know till I see it but in Sept it's on the air called Rebel Gold one hour long.I have hunted with some of these guys and they to get a big wound up on hunts but are great hunters and find the real deal.

LowBoy

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If you don’t dig it, then how are you going to know what you’re missing!
How can you have your pudding if you don’t eat your meat!

ncwayne Wrote:
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> Ferrous Bueller Wrote:
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> > I've seen several episodes and I wonder if I'm
> > alone in thinking, given the quality and
> > exclusivity of the sites they are allowed to
> hunt;
> > their finds as a whole are not all that
> > impressive?
>
>
> Do you really think the sites they dig have not
> been detected before? I expect they have been
> detected several times before the Diggers got to
> them. And some sites have probably even had
> archeological studies performed already.
> And haven't we all had sites we worked where we
> expected far more than what we found? I don't
> judge their digs to be impressed or not. I just
> like to see what they find since I'm certainly not
> going to get the chance to dig behind them.


The show implies that the sites are virgin, on private property or obtained access through special permission. Leaving the viewer to assume they are at a virgin site, or lightly detected at most.

Conversely haven't you made great finds in areas hit hard? I don't judge an area that has been detected before automatically means there are no great finds left.

If the sites are not all that exclusive, There are any number of cellar holes, 130 year old public parks, where it's still possible to find a Barber quarter, crotal bell, ox shoe etc..

In one of the few episodes that I watched all the way through, Ringy dingy dug up the lever off of a Daisy lever action BB gun and claimed it was off of a Winchester or Henry Lever gun...turned it off and swore I'd never watch the show again, they suck.

Hombre Wrote:
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> In one of the few episodes that I watched all the
> way through, Ringy dingy dug up the lever off of a
> Daisy lever action BB gun and claimed it was off
> of a Winchester or Henry Lever gun...turned it off
> and swore I'd never watch the show again, they
> suck.


+1

It's entertainment.... That's all its supposed to be. They might act like idiots but there getting paid to be that way. If you want to point fingers look to the producers of the show. I'm sure National Geographic gives a hoot what we think. If it bothers you that much don't watch it..... It's just my two cents.

thats understood!.it's entertainment,and there in lies the problem!
the fact that they are on the tube means people see what's involved,and focus on the digging,
with the subsequent effect of shutting down property and sites!..fact is, why tempt fate?..exposing the hobby
has a debilitating effect,because its' right in people's faces,what we do,and this is NOT good thing. fact is,the LESS exposure,the better.
all i'm saying!..we don't need this!,entertainment,or not!

(h.h.!)
j.t.

Ferrous Bueller Wrote:
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> ncwayne Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ferrous Bueller Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I've seen several episodes and I wonder if
> I'm
> > > alone in thinking, given the quality and
> > > exclusivity of the sites they are allowed to
> > hunt;
> > > their finds as a whole are not all that
> > > impressive?
> >
> >
> > Do you really think the sites they dig have not
> > been detected before? I expect they have been
> > detected several times before the Diggers got
> to
> > them. And some sites have probably even had
> > archeological studies performed already.
> > And haven't we all had sites we worked where we
> > expected far more than what we found? I don't
> > judge their digs to be impressed or not. I just
> > like to see what they find since I'm certainly
> not
> > going to get the chance to dig behind them.
>
>
> The show implies that the sites are virgin, on
> private property or obtained access through
> special permission. Leaving the viewer to assume
> they are at a virgin site, or lightly detected at
> most.
>
> Conversely haven't you made great finds in areas
> hit hard? I don't judge an area that has been
> detected before automatically means there are no
> great finds left.
>
> If the sites are not all that exclusive, There
> are any number of cellar holes, 130 year old
> public parks, where it's still possible to find a
> Barber quarter, crotal bell, ox shoe etc..

I'm just saying that the sites they hunt are somewhat exclusive well known historical sites and have probably been detected by the land owners or family members or good friends sometime in the past. You know, sort of like in real life <g>. I don't think there is any implication made that the sites are at all virgin. Hard to get into, in most cases, yes, but not virgin.
And yes, sometimes great finds are made in hard hunted sites, but not necessarily in one or two hunts. Great finds generally come from not giving up. I doubt their production schedule allows them do do much more than get in , hunt for a day, more or less, and move on.

Pleasant Garden, NC
AT Max, Nokta Impact, MX Sport, Nokta FORS Relic, GPX 4800, Infinium, Racer, Deus, F75SE, Nautilus DMC II (order of acquisition, last to first)

Does an archeologist argue with a plow? A bureaucrat with a bulldozer?

The biggest problem with the show is that the guys are really bad at faking excitement. Everytime they find something they act so fake its a turnoff. The show has the potential to be as good as american pickers, however, the guys are too fake and they don't really spend enough time going through all of the history and such. Its a good idea but I think there are quite a few problems (ie editing, filming, producing) that just don't give it the quality that shows like pickers and pawn stars have. I would bet any money that an episode of the guys from american pickers going out into a field metal detecting the whole time diggers style would be much better than the guys from diggers doing the same thing. Its not just the guys but the whole TV crew - editors/producers/etc that give pickers quality that diggers does not have. I would assume that the history channel is putting a lot more money into pickers than national geo puts into diggers.

If you have never hunted before you would think these guys find relics all day long. And I like when they say this is a deep tone and dig a few inches. I like when they say this is a sweet tone and its going to be a great target. Its just for entertainment that is it.

LowBoy

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If you don’t dig it, then how are you going to know what you’re missing!
How can you have your pudding if you don’t eat your meat!

If they are going to show a live dig then let it be live! When they sneak up on a coin the coin is loose as a goose. Plus the soil all around it looks like potting soil. I believe "if" they do dig up something nice the research team educates them and the producers tell them what to say. Then they reinsert the target back and act like they are seeing it for the first time. Other than that and them running around climbing trees and sliding into home plate the show would be OK. ( Oh! That IS the whole show!) We as Pro's don't like to be portrayed as idiots. But I can tell you that my non detecting buddies think the show's great. I'm tired of telling them that we don't act like that! I seem to be wasting my breath in defending our honer. Maybe I would have more youtube followers if I acted like an idiot? Who knows?

Kenny
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It is a shame that the producers think the only way to have a productive show is by having these guys act like children and continue to do so.
It would be nice if they try something along the lines of a "historical" & "mature" perspective expecially since the average age on the forums
is well above the "teen" point of view they adhere to.

Has anyone emailed the show's producers or checked out their twitter ?

I watched a lot of the shows and I can out hunt these guys..their coils are a few inches off the ground and the ground for the most part seems very clean you have to feel there is more junk in these areas. But if anything it makes me want to hunt more and I don't have areas given to me I have to work them like the miners did...My friend Larry and Mike Scott will have a new show coming out in Sept an hour show called rebel gold sept 15 discovery channel

LowBoy

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If you don’t dig it, then how are you going to know what you’re missing!
How can you have your pudding if you don’t eat your meat!