1/4 Stereo plug "Standard" ?

Does every detector made use a standard 1/4 Stereo plug?

I know for sure the Explorer XS did not however adapter available at Radio Shack or several companies made adapters that doubled as stand....a couple more units also did but for most part the 1/4 is standard...

There are some unusual ones, like the Garrett AT-Pro, that has a bespoke waterproof connector,(and uses electronic switching to detect the headphones and turn off the internal speaker), though there are expensive adapter cables from 'special-plug' to 'standard-socket' available.

Deus is 1/8" should you go the wired route. A lot of teknetics greek machines still have both. 1/4" is the most standard though.

Dan-Pa. Wrote:
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> I know for sure the Explorer XS did not however
> adapter available at Radio Shack or several
> companies made adapters that doubled as stand....a
> couple more units also did but for most part the
> 1/4 is standard...

I tried to STOP the 1/8" headphone socket as far back as summer of ' 99 but Australia advised "tooling done" so wouldn't re-design!
Similarly, I advised a rear stand...

ALL my suggestions were put in on later releases...but they should have been there to begin with: they knew that there would be issues!

To answer the Q.
it used to be standard but not anymore. With the advent of 'digital' machines the 1/4" lost favor in lieu of the 1/8" in certain instances.
For example, Juice, Go Find, etc etc...cheaper machines...

Dan-Pa. Wrote:
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> I know for sure the Explorer XS did not however
> adapter available at Radio Shack or several
> companies made adapters that doubled as stand....a
> couple more units also did but for most part the
> 1/4 is standard...

So what did it use? 3.5mm?

Thanks everyone.

I'm confused by the references to 1/8th inch sockets. Do you all mean 3.5mm ?

And on the subject of 1/4" sockets, Mr. Neptonix needs to know that some machines join L and R channels together, and the audio is between (L&R) and Screen. Whereas other machines don't use the screen, and the audio is between the L and R channel.

Pimento Wrote:
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> I'm confused by the references to 1/8th inch
> sockets. Do you all mean 3.5mm ?
>
> And on the subject of 1/4" sockets, Mr. Neptonix
> needs to know that some machines join L and R
> channels together, and the audio is between (L&R)
> and Screen. Whereas other machines don't use the
> screen, and the audio is between the L and R
> channel.


Yes, 1/8 and 3.5mm used interchangeably...

I guess that's a U.S peculiarity, then. Here in the U.K, we never call the 3.5mm plugs/sockets "1/8th inch" . 1/8th inch is 3.175mm in metric, and as we've adopted the metric system, we tend to take things as they are.



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As well as the previously-mentioned Minelab Explorer XS , the 3.5mm socket is also used on their Go-Find range.

3.5mm is also used on lots of cheap low-end machines like Altai stuff etc, but I guess they are not used by your potential customers.



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Pimento Wrote:
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> I'm confused by the references to 1/8th inch
> sockets. Do you all mean 3.5mm ?
>
> And on the subject of 1/4" sockets, Mr. Neptonix
> needs to know that some machines join L and R
> channels together, and the audio is between (L&R)
> and Screen. Whereas other machines don't use the
> screen, and the audio is between the L and R
> channel.

I'm confused by the reference to 'Screen'. Is that a British-ism for 'Shield' or 'Ground'?
Or is it a reference to the standard 'Sleeve' as in the Tip/Ring/Sleeve terminology?

mike



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I'm using it to refer to the ground / sleeve / 0 Volt / Earth connection. On audio equipment, screened cable is commonly used to prevent interference pickup and in the case of stereo equipment, to prevent crosstalk between the two channels. On headphones, this is less of a concern, and cables may be unscreened, or screened for simple mechanical reasons.
I tend to avoid calling it 'ground' myself, as it may not actually be connected to a circuits 'ground', it may be some other voltage. For example a radio that is powered from 4 AA cells (ie. 6 volts) may have a sleeve that's fixed at +3 volts, and the audio signals go from 0 V to +6 V at max output. This would particulary apply to MD's, as being battery powered, and not having to connect other equipment either, they tend to eschew the rules. The sleeve may be +9 Volts DC, for example.

Pimento Wrote:
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> I'm using it to refer to the ground / sleeve / 0
> Volt / Earth connection. On audio equipment,
> screened cable is commonly used to prevent
> interference pickup and in the case of stereo
> equipment, to prevent crosstalk between the two
> channels. On headphones, this is less of a
> concern, and cables may be unscreened, or screened
> for simple mechanical reasons.

Oh...you mean 'Shielded' cable. So UK 'Screened' = US 'Shielded'. Got it, thanks!

(I've been involved in electronics since 1970, and never heard the term 'Screened' applied to anything but printing the labels on PC boards)
We truly are "Two countries separated by a common language."


mike



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