Another Equinox user review from the UK

Another UK user review take it as you will

''I had a fiddle at Corfe, those who know me know how cynical I am.

Its fast.....very fast.
Its sensitive.....very sensitive.
Its waterproof.
Its light.
It runs for 8-10 hours.
The control box & coil can go on an aftermarket stem.
The multi-frequency doesn`t cycle through the "gaps" in frequency.
Improved processors mean clearer target ID.

In the field it was finding targets that a pinpointer struggled to find!

Think waterproof 705 on steroids with some fizzing tech onboard.

Its not a CTX.''

and another short piece from the same user

''Balance is fine if a little "towards the coil" which pushes the arm cup towards the arm. TBH I think the coil is the heaviest part of it! Having the straight hand grip below the control-box (unlike the old Explorer "hand stress" position) makes it swing lovely.
There are two options for headphones, wired (small/phone jack size) for earbuds etc or the WM-8 module that nobody seemed to have at Corfe.
Done some target testing in a field, myself & Neil took it in turns to cross check...both machines got them just in different tones.
Its a very,very capable machine......................but its not a CTX''

Thats JC for you,straight talking but tells it as he see's it,which basically is how it should be in my mind regarding a review.

Nobody ever claimed it was a CTX, and that could be a good thing! I mean, I could just as easily say it's not an Etrac, nor a Sovereign, nor this or that, but that doesn't mean that it's good or bad. So I guess the question is, when he says it's not a CTX, OK, thank you captain obvious, but what do you actually mean by that statement? Your arm wasn't falling off after four hours of detecting because the new machine was half the weight? It doesn't have a color screen, target trace, GPS, WTH does that statement mean, because it's simply noise at this point without some meaningful explanation from the user as to what the heck he means, as it's clearly obvious to anyone that it's not a CTX.


sanjuro Wrote:
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> Another UK user review take it as you will
>
> ''I had a fiddle at Corfe, those who know me know
> how cynical I am.
>
> Its fast.....very fast.
> Its sensitive.....very sensitive.
> Its waterproof.
> Its light.
> It runs for 8-10 hours.
> The control box & coil can go on an aftermarket st
> em.
> The multi-frequency doesn`t cycle through the "gap
> s" in frequency.
> Improved processors mean clearer target ID.
>
> In the field it was finding targets that a pinpoin
> ter struggled to find!
>
> Think waterproof 705 on steroids with some fizzing
> tech onboard.
>
> Its not a CTX.''
>
> and another short piece from the same user
>
> ''Balance is fine if a little "towards the coil" w
> hich pushes the arm cup towards the arm. TBH I thi
> nk the coil is the heaviest part of it! Having the
> straight hand grip below the control-box (unlike t
> he old Explorer "hand stress" position) makes it s
> wing lovely.
> There are two options for headphones, wired (small
> /phone jack size) for earbuds etc or the WM-8 modu
> le that nobody seemed to have at Corfe.
> Done some target testing in a field, myself & Neil
> took it in turns to cross check...both machines go
> t them just in different tones.
> Its a very,very capable machine...................
> ...but its not a CTX''

Hey Brian, how is the weather out your way? Hot and dry here in West Tn. Oh, gosh, sorry. Guess we are still talking about the Equinox. HH jim tn

Does anyone know what he means when he says "The multi-frequency doesn`t cycle through the "gaps" in frequency." I assume this has something to do with how Multi-IQ works, as compared to probably FBS or BBS, but what does "cycle through the gams in frequency" mean?

Steve

Sounds like it's got some good stuff on the menu. But does it have good ole meat and potatoes somewhere in there.

Cal_cobra Wrote:
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> Nobody ever claimed it was a CTX, and that could b
> e a good thing! I mean, I could just as easily
> say it's not an Etrac, nor a Sovereign, nor this o
> r that, but that doesn't mean that it's good or ba
> d. So I guess the question is, when he says it's
> not a CTX, OK, thank you captain obvious, but what
> do you actually mean by that statement? Your ar
> m wasn't falling off after four hours of detecting
> because the new machine was half the weight? It d
> oesn't have a color screen, target trace, GPS, WTH
> does that statement mean, because it's simply nois
> e at this point without some meaningful explanatio
> n from the user as to what the heck he means, as i
> t's clearly obvious to anyone that it's not a CTX.
>

Are you being deliberately obtuse? You wrongly suggest that saying the Equinox is not a CTX is a self evident and meaningless contrast, essentially equivalent to saying it's not an automobile or a frog.

"Its a very,very capable machine....................but its not a CTX'' means that the Equinox is not as capable as the CTX in this reviewer's opinion. He's not explaining which capabilities are deficient; however, he's clearly not lamenting the lighter weight. The implication is that the missing capability is significant and not trivial.

Bayard Wrote:
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> Cal_cobra Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nobody ever claimed it was a CTX, and that could
> b
> > e a good thing! I mean, I could just as easi
> ly
> > say it's not an Etrac, nor a Sovereign, nor this
> o
> > r that, but that doesn't mean that it's good or
> ba
> > d. So I guess the question is, when he says it'
> s
> > not a CTX, OK, thank you captain obvious, but wh
> at
> > do you actually mean by that statement? Your
> ar
> > m wasn't falling off after four hours of detecti
> ng
> > because the new machine was half the weight? It
> d
> > oesn't have a color screen, target trace, GPS, W
> TH
> > does that statement mean, because it's simply no
> is
> > e at this point without some meaningful explanat
> io
> > n from the user as to what the heck he means, as
> i
> > t's clearly obvious to anyone that it's not a CT
> X.
> >
>
> Are you being deliberately obtuse? You wrongly su
> ggest that saying the Equinox is not a CTX is a se
> lf evident and meaningless contrast, essentially e
> quivalent to saying it's not an automobile or a fr
> og.
>
> "Its a very,very capable machine..................
> ..but its not a CTX'' means that the Equinox is no
> t as capable as the CTX in this reviewer's opinion
> . He's not explaining which capabilities are defi
> cient; however, he's clearly not lamenting the lig
> hter weight. The implication is that the missing
> capability is significant and not trivial.

If it is even just slightly deeper with improved TID over the 705 and F75 in my ground (single freq modes) I would be happy. With proper use, tuning those two are as deep as anything I have used with stock size coils, hitting 10"+ pennies with "good enough" TID in my ground.. If it can hit US dimes at 10"+ in single freq than I can forgive the claim that multi is tuned to low conductors which is fine as that is what salt water users need. If it hits none of the above requirements then it would be relegated to fresh water wading and there are many single freq machines, modded for wading or waterproof, that hit tiny low conductors in fresh water.

It's a high bar for me so ML better have done a good job.

Like many non BBS/FBS users I could actually care less that it doesn't have the features of those, to me they are simply bloat.

Tom

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can it be fitted with a telescopic stem like the deus straight stem clones?

The UK reviewer explains his ''not a CTX'' comment with the following

''The CTX is a much more technically capable machine with more functionality''

What? The $700-900 machine is not the $2,500 machine??? What are the odds that this is really where less is MORE? I think i'll keep my CTX and just add an Equus, Equator, Equinox whatever.

Past(or)Tom
Using a Legend, a Deus 2, an Equinox 800, a Tarsacci MDT 8000, & a few others...
with my beloved, fading Corgi, Sadie