New - EQUINOX Series Detectors - Coming Soon! - UPDATE

Steve Herschbach Wrote:
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> Thought I would let you all know the color brochur
> e is back for download. There was a tiny error in
> the spec sheet posted previously above - see if yo
> u can spot it.
>
> [www.minelab.com]-
> 1%20Brochure,%20EQUINOX%20Series%20A4%204p%20EN_WE
> B.pdf


They changed the target tones from 1-2-5-25 to 1-2-5-50

shoveler Wrote:
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> I find this interesting,,,,the discrimination rati
> ngs in the detector comparison
>
> [www.minelab.com]
> re-detectors

they changed that too. equinox originally showed 4 stars. its all marketing gobbly gook

Flbchbm Wrote:
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> The proof will be in the pudding. Here's hoping th
> e TID does what I need it to do. Or that the frequ
> ency choices give me some advantage that offsets t
> he lower TID resolution. Overall, I really like th
> e design. Looking forward to getting my hands on o
> ne and wringing it out.
>
> Gonebeepin', you are definitely right. A 40 segmen
> t scale will give a more stable TID than a 95 segm
> ent scale by 95/40 times or.....2.4 ish times. Way
> farer, assuming that the detectors are using compa
> rable scales, precision is what I need to separate
> the aluminum screw cap from the penny. Accuracy is
> n't good enough in this case. Or maybe it is......
> we will see.

I see what you are saying, and you're right. As long as the precision is there, and is repeatable, it doesn't matter what the actual TID number is. I guess in this context, Minelab calling the TID "accurate" would most closely be akin to being repeatable.
One reason they may have gone with the 40 non-ferrous ID numbers is to increase the repeatability and stability.

I can't wait to get mine and start putting it through its paces.

Steve

There is one thing not mentioned in all the info that would interest a lot of people, does it have TID in all metal. That was the one thing the X-Terras lacked in prospecting mode. Hopefully ALL the advanced settings are available for 40 kHz.


Tom

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Keith Southern Wrote:
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> Wish they would have ghave the target ID go to 99
> instead of 40...
>
> Keith

Keith

I hope they have the -8/48 X-Terra iron wrap around fixed. The iron range has been expanded one number from -8 on the X-Terras to -9 on the Equinox and hopefully solves most of the problem. Would hate to see 40 showing up in iron sites all the time.

Tom

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Yup nearly twice the resolution of the X-Terra 705, 40 TID numbers vs 24. Deeper targets on the 705 can bounce one segment either way in my ground which was "good enough" for me. If the Equinox is more accurate/stable at depth as claimed it will be pretty awesome.

Tom

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Well there we have it folks, It's no better than the Xterras. Bet they change it back and quick! 3-1/2 stars.

Tom

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REMEMBER: This is NEW tech. We don't really know if the traditional "how and why" of TID even applies. For all we know, the fe scale may be incorporated into the TID numbers. The White XLT had a great feature where you could change the algorithm of the TID.

The one option used TID averaging. at each sweep the TID would be averaged then divided by the number of sweeps to produce a more accurate TID.

Another option was the highest(strongest) TID was kept.

Anyway, I was just hoping that someone would add this feature down the road.

New tech , old tech ,,,,,, it's hard to ignore that Minelab itself is showing the Safari , Etrac and CTX as all being far superior in the area of discrimination.
This might be the first clue as to why everyone was surprised at the lower than expected pricing.

shoveler Wrote:
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> New tech , old tech ,,,,,, it's hard to ignore tha
> t Minelab itself is showing the Safari , Etrac and
> CTX as all being far superior in the area of discr
> imination.
> This might be the first clue as to why everyone wa
> s surprised at the lower than expected pricing.

I addressed this in another post somewhere, but, they are not going come out and say, "This is the Equinox, and at $900, it's better than our $1200 + machines". That wouldn't make any sense. Read between the lines.

The WM 08 wireless audio module looks as though it only supports 3.5mm jackplugs and not the 1/4 inch (6.35mm) ones thats a bit disappointing for me as i do not like using adaptors.

Well if 40 is better than 100 then 20 should be twice as stable as 40......or should it be 23........or maybe 42........or.....?

shoveler Wrote:
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> New tech , old tech ,,,,,, it's hard to ignore tha
> t Minelab itself is showing the Safari , Etrac and
> CTX as all being far superior in the area of discr
> imination.
> This might be the first clue as to why everyone wa
> s surprised at the lower than expected pricing.


Considering they started the Nox at 4 starts, and now it's bounced between 2.5 - 4 starts, it's hard to read anything serious into that label other then marketing drivel.

All the speculation will soon be over when they start shipping......patience grasshopper.

PhDtector Wrote:
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> Well if 40 is better than 100 then 20 should be tw
> ice as stable as 40......or should it be 23.......
> .or maybe 42........or.....?


Lol they should use 1..... it would be 100% right all the time, at any depth, on any target

Moved my question under new topic. Thanks



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/13/2017 06:00PM by Mccrorysjewelry2.